New Flame Toys Model Kits Include Arcee, BW Megatron, Gilthor and More

Ok, that Arcee will be preordered as soon as she becomes available, I still need to build my Windblade though

That Gilthor looks awesome, I don't really do model kits but I am interested in picking it up because I don't think there'll probably be any other merch of it that goes for such a deep cut! I've always loved the design and was sad there wasn't something of it.
The dynamic styling already works super well for a character from a very stylised art style for its design.

Kinda wish that one was up for preorder already but I also don't mind delays to make sure it's perfect. Selling generic-anime-girl-body Arcee first is a pretty wise choice at getting the extra funding, heh.

Arcee reminds me a lot the female androids from "Phantasy Star Online".
Gilthor/Guiltaur is a strange proposal.

primalxconvoy wrote:Arcee looks both interesting yet problematic at the same time. I'm surprised the full design, as-is, was greenlighted, considering that a significant amount of the community were unhappy with similar designs prior.

If by "The community" you mean Twitter Warriors who wouldn't have spent a dime on Transformers of any kinds, you're right.

She's sooooooooooooooo problematic.

Like ham for a Muslim or shoes for someone with no legs.

My thing with Arcee is, she's looking very armoured really.

griftimus prime wrote:man that megatron is looking dope. been thinking of some non transforming bots i might get after i stop collecting. this may make the list if price was right

I might get that Megs along with the more 'normal' looking Prime kit along with the Gilthor figure, they'd look pretty cool together methinks.

Megatron looks pretty good, and Gilthor is a very interesting inclusion that I really like, way to go

That BW Megatron looks really cool; very primal and bestial.

Also very pleasantly surprised by Gilthor. Maybe we'll get him as a Selects too if this sells well? Hopefully this also means they'll start betting on other, more obscure characters. I'd love to see their take on Autobot X, Halonix Maximus and Transmutate, for example.

grimdragon2001 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:Arcee looks both interesting yet problematic at the same time. I'm surprised the full design, as-is, was greenlighted, considering that a significant amount of the community were unhappy with similar designs prior.

If by "The community" you mean Twitter Warriors who wouldn't have spent a dime on Transformers of any kinds, you're right.

She's sooooooooooooooo problematic.

Like ham for a Muslim or shoes for someone with no legs.

This just tells me that Windblade sold exceptionally well. More than likely all the talk of her being "problematic" pushed her to everyone's view, even those who either were uninterested or never heard of Flame Toys' works and got them interested. Controversy does sell after all. I have a feeling if Arcee gets as many people talking as Windblade did, she'll sell gangbusters and Flame Toys knows it now.

I can actually point out a few issues I had with the original Windblade announcement, which I think this Arcee managed to avoid:
- Silhouette is very important to make a character distinctive by shape alone (for reference, try to picture a shadow of Batman withouth the cape or the cowl ears), and a big part of Windblade's is her wings (there's a reason why even in Cyberverse, where the wings are usually retracted, every promotional material has them deployed). So when the original model had them so minimalized, it was pretty clear they were more concerned with making a sexy robot than a (sexy or not) Windblade. Meanwhile, Arcee already had minimal kibble, and this model is perfectly sized and shaped to her usual design; the only way it could be misrepresented would be if it were smaller than her torso.
- Posing is extremely important to establish a character's personality. If I remember correctly, the male characters in that announcement all had a single generic "hip-thrust" power pose, while Windblade had two poses...a daintly walk and a literal boobs-n-butt Escher pose. So, the guys were generic strong guys, while the girl was basically eye candy. Arcee, on the other hand, has a variety of poses and while some are sexy others are clearly combat-ready, especially when using the guns, so even when emphasising her sexuality they don't ignore her capacity as a warrior.

Nemesis Reformatted wrote:These things don't transform which means they have less parts & less engineering.

I take it you've never built a model kit before because if you had you'd know this isn't true! Model kits are their own kind of engineering feats that can't be compared to off the shelf figures. The parts counts are incredibly high because they tend to break down the colors into parts rather than paint ops. Your average Transformer figure head is two or three pieces if they have light piping, but model kits like these tend to have several pieces for the face, eyes, front and back halves of the head, and any additional ornaments like antennae and fringes. Some have multiple heads or multiple faces to swap. Even unarticulated hands are often two parts. That Arcee model probably has as high or higher of a parts count as any Titan.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Nemesis Reformatted wrote:These things don't transform which means they have less parts & less engineering.

I take it you've never built a model kit before because if you had you'd know this isn't true! Model kits are their own kind of engineering feats that can't be compared to off the shelf figures. The parts counts are incredibly high because they tend to break down the colors into parts rather than paint ops. Your average Transformer figure head is two or three pieces if they have light piping, but model kits like these tend to have several pieces for the face, eyes, front and back halves of the head, and any additional ornaments like antennae and fringes. Some have multiple heads or multiple faces to swap. Even unarticulated hands are often two parts. That Arcee model probably has as high or higher of a parts count as any Titan.

Emerje

You Transformers collectors will say anything to justify your addiction. You'll make a million excuses so you never have to admit that you're getting ripped off. The 1 thing a Transformers collector can never do is admit they're getting ripped off. But no matter what you say, the end product is not worth the absolutely *STUPID* prices they're charging. If these were $200 or $300 you would still defend it.

If we were kids right now & asked our parents to buy one of these kits for $50 or $60 most of us would get laughed right out of the room. Because our parents had sense. Something most adult toy collectors these days do not have.

These prices suck balls if you want to buy multiples & repaint them. And a $15 price hike between Windblade & Arcee goes way beyond "inflation". Normal inflation doesn't jump that high that fast.

Where do you draw the line? $50 for Windblade. $65 for Arcee. $80 for the next one? When does it ever stop???