New Images - Takara Tomy Legends Kup

Still looks too gray to me. Looks very similar to me for the most part except for different lighting or saturation. Where's the blue or bluish gray?

Seibertron wrote:Still looks too gray to me. Looks very similar to me for the most part except for different lighting or saturation. Where's the blue or bluish gray?

Huh. The difference is night and day to me. Granted, the teal is dark and the pale blue/green is very pale, but I can see it. I can kind of make myself see them as "gray" almost, but I have to concentrate. For the original photos, I can't make them look anything but gray no matter how hard I try.

Color really is a very subjective experience. Who knew Kup's colors were so hard to really nail down? Let's just hope this doesn't become a whole blue vs. white dress thing.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Color really is a very subjective experience.

It's not. There's a character who's been around for 31 years. Until this version of him, he's more or less been the same color palette (bluish-green, greenish-blue, or comic book 4 colors only blue). Then there's this figure that is homaging some obscure color scheme from an episode who's entire color palette is too dark (i.e. Ultra Magnus is a very dark red, Spike Witwicky's skin color is way off, etc. It's not just Kup who was too dark of a color in that episode).

Wolfman Jake wrote:Who knew Kup's colors were so hard to really nail down?

They're not. Google Images can be Takara's friend too.











I think what's frustrating to me about this is that instead of them just doing it right, they're doing this one-off oddball color scheme, everyone argues about it online, blah blah blah, and then they later release a convention or online exclusive "anime" accurate or "G1 toy" accurate color scheme, everyone will say "wow, they really did listen to fans" when, in fact, it was just them doing a "well, it's a close enough color scheme, but not entirely what fans want, so we'll do the less desirable one first so that fans buy it, and then come out with the more desired color scheme later so that we can double dip on sales.

This pattern is frustrating and seeing fans argue ad-nauseum is also frustrating. I don't mind seeing a less desirable character get the new mold treatment first (i.e. Sky Shadow over Overlord) but seeing a less popular or inaccurate color scheme first makes me feel like we keep getting taken for a ride.

Just an FYI ... I had my wife look at the pics, and she said the ones on the right of Kup (the new pics) definitely had a green tint, and the ones on the left definitely looked gray. So this could be a color blindness thing. While not what I wanted to hear her say, it makes me feel a little bit better about it. I definitely see the "green" in the pics on the right, but it looks like a very grayish green to me which she confirmed that it did look like a greenish gray (but I think to her the green looks more prominent). I showed her what Kup is supposed to look like from Google images, and she said he definitely doesn't look like that. So take all of that for what you will.

Eh I was quite into the grey look but this looks nice too. I definitely prefer it over the really bright teal of previous toys.

Those tftm movie screen caps most recently posted for comparison are very dark. That's not how the movie looks. Maybe I have the brightness turned up more or something. I'll pop in my copies tomorrow to verify or put my foot in my mouth.

Burn wrote:You know, I was never really on-board with TR Hot Rod, but I got him anyway. And TR Kup? ugh, nope, didn't like.

But then TakaraTomy come along and do this and make both Hot Rod, Kup AND Gnaw (who was already a great little figure) more appealing.

I should just bite the bullet and order them.

I would do it now, before everyone else buys them up. Remember, Hot Rod and Kup come with "exclusive" Targetmaster partners too. I was going to buy Legends Kup when we all thought he was gonna be gray, just to get Recoil.

Seibertron wrote:Those tftm movie screen caps most recently posted for comparison are very dark. That's not how the movie looks. Maybe I have the brightness turned up more or something. I'll pop in my copies tomorrow to verify or put my foot in my mouth.

Just checked both a digital copy of the movie I got and the DVD from some years ago on both my PS4 and my PC and they both look that 'dark'. Could be I just have my screen settings that way on both the TV and monitor cos that's how I like it but if they showed everything else I watch/play on them too dark I should have noticed by now. Could be just that the movie is supposed to be a bit darker in colour due to the more complex shading or story tone compared to the more upbeat TV series. Either way I definitely prefer a darker Kup to overly bright previous toy Kup so I'm sticking with the pre-order for now. Takara really turned this mold from a toy I didn't really care for at all to one I actually want.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Burn wrote:You know, I was never really on-board with TR Hot Rod, but I got him anyway. And TR Kup? ugh, nope, didn't like.

But then TakaraTomy come along and do this and make both Hot Rod, Kup AND Gnaw (who was already a great little figure) more appealing.

I should just bite the bullet and order them.

I would do it now, before everyone else buys them up. Remember, Hot Rod and Kup come with "exclusive" Targetmaster partners too. I was going to buy Legends Kup when we all thought he was gonna be gray, just to get Recoil.

Yeah, fine, done.

Even with the color change from grey to teal I'm still going to get him and Hot Rod becuase the changes to the mold such as new arms or chest is enough to justify the purchuses.

What I'm personally going to do is

Kup: Instead of going with Armorhide Takara Kup is going to be "retired" Kup with the Hasbro version being him during his time with the Wreckers in my collections universe.

Hot Rod: Since the chest doesn't fold making it bulkier and the colors seem to match I'm going to make Takara Hot Rod into a trailer-less Rodimus Prime by giving him the Hasbro Box set Rodimus Titan master with Hasbro Hot Rod being well... Hot Rod.