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New Video Review of Transformers Kingdom Wave 3 Core Class Figures

Posted by ZeroWolf Jun 8, 2021 at 12:58pm CDT 24,994 views
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Greetings Seibertronians! Fellow Seibertron user, and YouTube toy reviewer, PrimeVsPrime, has dropped a new video review for us all to enjoy, that of the Wave 3 Core Class figures!

These have already started Shipping from certain retailers such as Dorkside Toys (as reported by fellow Seibertron user, Aronjlove).

The toys in this wave are G1 Soundwave and Dracodon. Soundwave is modeled after his G1 self (including a tiny Lazerbeak!) while Dracodon is a Verterbreak redeco.

We have embedded the review below for your convenience:
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Special thanks to fellow Seibertron user, TigerHawk7109 and Dominus Prime, for letting us know about the review.

What do you think of these toys? Will you be getting them?

Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
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Re: New Video Review of Transformers Kingdom Wave 3 Core Class Figures (view post)
Comment by DeathReviews Jun 8, 2021
So is this "Prime vs Prime" reviewer the only one allowed early access or something?
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Kingdom Wave 3 Core Class Figures (view post)
Comment by sol magnus Jun 8, 2021
DeathReviews wrote:So is this "Prime vs Prime" reviewer the only one allowed early access or something?

He's not 'allowed' anything. He buys the toys from factory workers who steal them.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Kingdom Wave 3 Core Class Figures (view post)
Comment by Razorbeast88 Jun 8, 2021
Currently watching emgo's review of roddie
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Kingdom Wave 3 Core Class Figures (view post)
Comment by ZeroWolf Jun 8, 2021
sol magnus wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:So is this "Prime vs Prime" reviewer the only one allowed early access or something?

He's not 'allowed' anything. He buys the toys from factory workers who steal them.

Or he gets them from certain stores who recieve stock earlier as is the case with the Takara Selects gestalts who shipped early from In Demand Toys. This is how UK fans got Earthrise Scorponok and Skylynx before many others in the fandom.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Kingdom Wave 3 Core Class Figures (view post)
Comment by sol magnus Jun 8, 2021
ZeroWolf wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:So is this "Prime vs Prime" reviewer the only one allowed early access or something?

He's not 'allowed' anything. He buys the toys from factory workers who steal them.

Or he gets them from certain stores who recieve stock earlier as is the case with the Takara Selects gestalts who shipped early from In Demand Toys. This is how UK fans got Earthrise Scorponok and Skylynx before many others in the fandom.

Well, I'm glad there's at least SOME legal thing going on here - but since he never shows the box on the retail releases (and I saw an entire text chain confirming what I said), it only kind of raises my opinion of the whole thing.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Kingdom Wave 3 Core Class Figures (view post)
Comment by Wolfman Jake Jun 8, 2021
Sabrblade wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Hue differences in paint and plastic do not translate to a lazy deco.

The general applications are the same, And yes I already said the grey vs the tan and that the red needed to be deeper. That's just hue differences, not deco differences.

The deco is the same. There are no real paint applications missing, just different hues used. Maybe because of the different plastics. Hard plastic vs the heavy rubbery skin Kingdom Megs has.
The original's pink, baby blue, copper, and green are all gone. That's half of the original toy's eight colors missing from this version.

Counting the tan replaced with gray makes over 50% of the original toy's colors removed from this version.

Overcracker wrote:It's the same hue difference between the Original Megatron and Kingdom Megs and even MP Megs.

Kingdom Megs has a deeper purple than the original Beastwars Megs which was much closer to grey. But nobody is complaining Kingdom Megs does not exactly match the original.
Kingdom Megs was trying to be cartoon-accurate. The cartoon model's colors were always different from the original toy's.


Where is the green you’re talking about!? The eyes? It’s still there, in exactly the same places, just a more yellowish green instead of bright green. Again, it’s a hue difference, as others have pointed out. I don’t see multiple shades of blue on the original either, just metallic blue (definitely NOT “baby blue” by any stretch). Are you talking about the face? It’s not that much lighter than the blue elsewhere on the original figure. There’s some neon pink/red still on the hip blasters of the new version, but that’s all you get, as it doesn’t come with the missiles the original toy had. The rest of the neon red plastic of the original is structural, and minimal at that. Did you want them to paint those structural parts in the new mold, or did you want them to cast another plastic color just for that, when the mold probably isn’t even set up to do that anyway. The reddish bronze paint on the original’s helmet is gone, but the new one’s red plastic is a good approximation anyway. It just happens to match the red of the rest of the body. Would you rather it have been painted another (inaccurate) hue just to mildly contrast the rest of the rusty red on the figure?

The only real sticking point might be the colder gray plastic. Hasbro might have done well to use that weird brownish gray plastic they seem to love from Titans Return Power Master Optimus Prime and G1 Blaster reissues. The exact hue of the original’s “tan” plastic is hard to really peg down, as it differs by photograph. The fictional artwork isn’t even consistent on the gray color. Just check the old 3H Comics.

If you don’t like it, don’t buy it, but it’s far from a “lazy deco.” It’s quite faithful to the layout of the original with some hues adjusted. I think it points out that the original’s deco wasn’t anything amazing to begin with, honestly.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Kingdom Wave 3 Core Class Figures (view post)
Comment by Nuclearxpotato Jun 8, 2021
ZeroWolf wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:So is this "Prime vs Prime" reviewer the only one allowed early access or something?

He's not 'allowed' anything. He buys the toys from factory workers who steal them.

Or he gets them from certain stores who recieve stock earlier as is the case with the Takara Selects gestalts who shipped early from In Demand Toys. This is how UK fans got Earthrise Scorponok and Skylynx before many others in the fandom.

The truth is in the packaging or lack thereof. If he has the packaging, he'll show it off. If not, then it's stolen and delivered loose.
That's why he rarely talks about the Golden Disc Cards.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Kingdom Wave 3 Core Class Figures (view post)
Comment by ZeroWolf Jun 8, 2021
Oh I wasn't saying that was the case for everything, in fact my example was primarily about the Takara Selects stuff that he was attacked over despite in demand toys Shipping those exact same figures.

I still prefer the conspiracy theory though the 'Factory thief' is actually working on behalf of Hasbro to build up hype for certain figures (see how there was no leaks of Rhinox for instance but wreck-gar did leak). Why would Hasbro do this (aside from the hype train?) To get around YouTube T&C of course! They always have plausible deniability. After all it wasn't them who gave the youtuber the figure...it was the thief.

Yes, I'm cynical enough to believe that a corporation would do this in order to manipulate a fandom to make more money. After all I'm betting there's more that don't care these are stolen figures then those that do. By a large margin.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Kingdom Wave 3 Core Class Figures (view post)
Comment by Nuclearxpotato Jun 8, 2021
ZeroWolf wrote:Oh I wasn't saying that was the case for everything, in fact my example was primarily about the Takara Selects stuff that he was attacked over despite in demand toys Shipping those exact same figures.

I still prefer the conspiracy theory though the 'Factory thief' is actually working on behalf of Hasbro to build up hype for certain figures (see how there was no leaks of Rhinox for instance but wreck-gar did leak). Why would Hasbro do this (aside from the hype train?) To get around YouTube T&C of course! They always have plausible deniability. After all it wasn't them who gave the youtuber the figure...it was the thief.

Yes, I'm cynical enough to believe that a corporation would do this in order to manipulate a fandom to make more money. After all I'm betting there's more that don't care these are stolen figures then those that do. By a large margin.


Ah, I see.
I think your conspiracy theory is actually close to the source: workers want to send off the figures that reviewers would want their first dibs on, so they choose the most impressive ones (which would probably be the same as the ones Hasbro's proud of).
That's why we saw Galvatron leaked to multiple reviewers and Magnus to a lesser degree.

I really don't care about them being stolen, I just think it's something that people should be conscious of.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Kingdom Wave 3 Core Class Figures (view post)
Comment by primalxconvoy Jun 8, 2021
Ahh, more stolen goods from our resident Transformers tealeaf...

I hear he's started a website to sell all of his collectibles:

- https://youtu.be/CMfNvpIklFg
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Kingdom Wave 3 Core Class Figures (view post)
Comment by DeathReviews Jun 8, 2021
Admittedly, the fact that many of these early reviewers have none of the product collateral materials (package, instructions, trading cards, etc.) makes their mysterious access seem a bit dodgy. If these were legitimate releases, they'd have all the associated material...
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Kingdom Wave 3 Core Class Figures (view post)
Comment by -Kanrabat- Jun 8, 2021
Emgo316 has posted a video review of the highly anticipated Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime. Complete with his packaging, card, and ALL the accessories, including the smoke effects for the smokestacks, accessories that were missing from the Prime VS Prime review. He also shows more functions of the toys.

Another interesting fact is that Emgo was able to do this review because a friend from Australia sent it to him because they began appearing in his area. In which store Rodimus appeared in Australia? That was not said. But our fellow Australian Seibertronians should keep an eye out when Transformers hunting.

Without further ado, here's Emgo's video review of CC Rodimus Prime:



Are you more excited than before for this figure now that you have seen ALL of it's features? Let us know!
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Kingdom Wave 3 Core Class Figures (view post)
Comment by o.supreme Jun 8, 2021
^Sightings of Galvatron, Rodimus Prime, and T-Wrecks have been confirmed by various Australian Transformers fans. I don't always watch emgo, but if he does seemingly get something *early* he always has the packaging, and an explanation right in his video.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Kingdom Wave 3 Core Class Figures (view post)
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat Jun 8, 2021
This whole debate yet again? :BANG_HEAD: Just call him out on it and have him disclose his source! I know some retro game YouTubers that deal with clone consoles have disclosed where they got their stock, either review sample sent ahead or bought with their own money, so why can't toy reviewers do the same? :???:
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Kingdom Wave 3 Core Class Figures (view post)
Comment by primalxconvoy Jun 8, 2021
I've emailed and messaged Prime "Tealeaf" Prime and he's never responded. As stated before, he's never produced packaging, nor given any official disclaimer that his toys were provided by Hasbro and that his videos are sponsored content (which is a huge rule at YouTube).

For the most part the man simply gets stolen goods and reviews them before others.

I find his behaviour deplorable, which is why I unsubscribed and blocked both his account and channel from my third party YouTube apps (you can also do it via scripts in Chrome, etc, I believe).

Why Seibertron doesn't just take screenshots and simply not provide links to his channel is beyond me. That's what another site has done.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Kingdom Wave 3 Core Class Figures (view post)
Comment by o.supreme Jun 8, 2021
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Just call him out on it and have him disclose his source!


ALL of the early reviewers HAVE been called out on Youtube, some people have even gone beyond allegation and called them straight up thieves in the comments section (I'm not taking sides here, just providing information). They don't have to respond, and seemingly just ignore such things. Personally I am the kind of person who would work diligently to clear my name if I was accused of something that was untrue, some people just don't care though...
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Kingdom Wave 3 Core Class Figures (view post)
Comment by -Kanrabat- Jun 8, 2021
o.supreme wrote:^Sightings of Galvatron, Rodimus Prime, and T-Wrecks have been confirmed by various Australian Transformers fans. I don't always watch emgo, but if he does seemingly get something *early* he always has the packaging, and an explanation right in his video.


Yup. Emgo is squeaky clean. The only times he don't have the packaging are for most G1 figures (understandably so) and the brown boxes or baggies for the upgrade kits. Otherwise, the packaging is always present safe for some extremely rare exceptions. And if those happen, there's always a "why".

Regarding Rodimus himself, I'm even more exited than before. The only flaw of this set is the trypophobia inducting trailer interior.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Kingdom Wave 3 Core Class Figures (view post)
Comment by primalxconvoy Jun 8, 2021
And that's why I watch Emgo! The man is legit.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Kingdom Wave 3 Core Class Figures (view post)
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat Jun 8, 2021
primalxconvoy wrote:Why Seibertron doesn't just take screenshots and simply not provide links to his channel is beyond me. That's what another site has done.


All for the sake of neutrality (i.e. not playing favorites) and "Innocent until proven guilty" I reckon. More importantly, posting such screenshots and not disclose the source is downright theft.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Kingdom Wave 3 Core Class Figures (view post)
Comment by sol magnus Jun 8, 2021
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:Why Seibertron doesn't just take screenshots and simply not provide links to his channel is beyond me. That's what another site has done.


All for the sake of neutrality (i.e. not playing favorites) and "Innocent until proven guilty" I reckon. More importantly, posting such screenshots and not disclose the source is downright theft.

I brought it up not to have Seibertron stop 'supporting' it, just that I think its sh---y. I watch the videos, so in some sense I too, 'support' it. But nothing he says (or TonTon, same deal) has anything to do with whether I purchase or not purchase any given figure. I'm just an information w---e, like most of us.
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