Preview Pages for Daniel Warren Johnson's Transformers Issue 2
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Comment by ScottyP
Oct 6, 2023
Optimus stepping on a deer is so entirely unnecessary. Someone needs to check this writer's basement, that's some deranged, twistedly cruel stuff to put on a page. Might not be sticking around for much of this series!
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Seems completely on-brand for Kirkman's comics in general, though.
Comment by sol magnus
Oct 6, 2023
ScottyP wrote:Optimus stepping on a deer is so entirely unnecessary. Someone needs to check this writer's basement, that's some deranged, twistedly cruel stuff to put on a page. Might not be sticking around for much of this series!
Seems completely on-brand for Kirkman's comics in general, though.
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Comment by bluecatcinema
Oct 6, 2023
Wow, they're referencing the Matrix already. That's got to be some kind of record.
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They referenced it in issue 1.
Comment by sol magnus
Oct 6, 2023
bluecatcinema wrote:Wow, they're referencing the Matrix already. That's got to be some kind of record.
They referenced it in issue 1.
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So I guess this means this story takes place post 1999
Comment by william-james88
Oct 6, 2023
bluecatcinema wrote:Wow, they're referencing the Matrix already. That's got to be some kind of record.
So I guess this means this story takes place post 1999
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Comment by snavej
Oct 7, 2023
Could everyone please take their red pills? [Matrix movie reference. 'Toxic male' reference. Right wing reference. Conspiracy theory reference. Red-coloured medicine capsule reference.]
Anyway, Cliffy has the glass gas, which means that some Decepticons are gonna get shattered soon.
By the way, no one show OP the movie 'Bambi', OK?!

Anyway, Cliffy has the glass gas, which means that some Decepticons are gonna get shattered soon.
By the way, no one show OP the movie 'Bambi', OK?!


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I can’t help but disagree. Look at the following page, Optimus is clearly suddenly overwhelmed by the weight of the war, his inability to save his own men, his home world. He’s only been online on Earth for probably no more than a couple days. The deer stepping, while admittedly gruesome (let’s not forget who’s in control of this series) serves as a really poignant moment of despair and Optimus’ feelings of despair and helplessness at the situation laid before him. So much is out of his control, or worse, so much is his fault.
Also… He hasn’t been a Prime that long, given what we know about the timeframe of the war. He must be so overwhelmed. This to me, serves as some EXCELLENT character building, and without a single spoken word or marvel-movie quip. It’s one of those things you have to take behind face value.
Can’t wait for issue 2!!!
Comment by Stormshot_Prime
Oct 7, 2023
ScottyP wrote:Optimus stepping on a deer is so entirely unnecessary. Someone needs to check this writer's basement, that's some deranged, twistedly cruel stuff to put on a page. Might not be sticking around for much of this series!
I can’t help but disagree. Look at the following page, Optimus is clearly suddenly overwhelmed by the weight of the war, his inability to save his own men, his home world. He’s only been online on Earth for probably no more than a couple days. The deer stepping, while admittedly gruesome (let’s not forget who’s in control of this series) serves as a really poignant moment of despair and Optimus’ feelings of despair and helplessness at the situation laid before him. So much is out of his control, or worse, so much is his fault.
Also… He hasn’t been a Prime that long, given what we know about the timeframe of the war. He must be so overwhelmed. This to me, serves as some EXCELLENT character building, and without a single spoken word or marvel-movie quip. It’s one of those things you have to take behind face value.
Can’t wait for issue 2!!!
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Do you want to shatter the poor guy even more?!
Comment by Stormshot_Prime
Oct 7, 2023
snavej wrote:By the way, no one show OP the movie 'Bambi', OK?!![]()
Do you want to shatter the poor guy even more?!

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Lol okay dude. I’m sure you’ll be here every month to find something to complain about
Comment by Randomhero
Oct 8, 2023
ScottyP wrote:Optimus stepping on a deer is so entirely unnecessary. Someone needs to check this writer's basement, that's some deranged, twistedly cruel stuff to put on a page. Might not be sticking around for much of this series!
Lol okay dude. I’m sure you’ll be here every month to find something to complain about
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Comment by TulioDude
Oct 8, 2023
Even they didn't want to use Bumblebee, they could just not have him appear in the story, feels to unnecessary for me.
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Comment by JazZeke
Oct 12, 2023
I read the first issue of the new TF comics today. Overall, it feels like a fresh take on an old story, so I'm willing to give it a few more issues. I understand going back to basics after IDW1 did something radically different and IDW2 flopped. But I really feel like THIS level of reversion to the original story feels like a step back and mere nostalgia-bating.
The most interesting element is the humans, actually. Sparkplug is a Vietnam vet with PTSD and a strained relationship with Spike, who's basically acting like the parental figure in the relationship. And he dreams of becoming an astronaut.
I do have a... TON of nitpicks though. Art is okay. At this point though I'm starting to resent the Sunbow animation model designs. I feel like they're starting to hold the overall brand back at this point. I'd rather have robots that actually look like they can turn into stuff. Apparently Optimus' trailer is now a TARDIS capable of fitting all the other Autobots inside it. And they all come back online speaking English immediately, no accounting for a language barrier, which is a sci fi pet peeve of mine.
Bumblebee is snuffed out unceremoniously before he even comes online. And while I do believe said character is overexposed, it just feels like a mean-spirited way of doing it. Not "edgelord," but pushing the envelop. At least in Prime when Cliffjumper was brought in just to be killed off, he got a moment to be established for audiences to connect to and feel the weight of his death.
I'd rate it a 5/10.
The most interesting element is the humans, actually. Sparkplug is a Vietnam vet with PTSD and a strained relationship with Spike, who's basically acting like the parental figure in the relationship. And he dreams of becoming an astronaut.
I do have a... TON of nitpicks though. Art is okay. At this point though I'm starting to resent the Sunbow animation model designs. I feel like they're starting to hold the overall brand back at this point. I'd rather have robots that actually look like they can turn into stuff. Apparently Optimus' trailer is now a TARDIS capable of fitting all the other Autobots inside it. And they all come back online speaking English immediately, no accounting for a language barrier, which is a sci fi pet peeve of mine.
Bumblebee is snuffed out unceremoniously before he even comes online. And while I do believe said character is overexposed, it just feels like a mean-spirited way of doing it. Not "edgelord," but pushing the envelop. At least in Prime when Cliffjumper was brought in just to be killed off, he got a moment to be established for audiences to connect to and feel the weight of his death.
I'd rate it a 5/10.
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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Oct 13, 2023
Finally decided to get the first issue, after hearing a lot of good things. Still need to read it, but I ended up with 2 copies of Issue 1 from the Seibertron store. Bossman included one in a package I bought almost 2 weeks ago, and I only just opened it last night AFTER buying a copy. Guess one of these will be framed for the wall!


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Comment by Rodimus Prime
Oct 14, 2023
Well the comics aren't aimed at children AFAIK and the character has been way overused in the last 15 years anyway. It was alright for the 1st 5 years, but then it got repetitious and annoying.TulioDude wrote:Even they didn't want to use Bumblebee, they could just not have him appear in the story, feels to unnecessary for me.
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I don't think too many people are upset with what happened so much as the WAY it happened.
Comment by sol magnus
Oct 14, 2023
Rodimus Prime wrote:Well the comics aren't aimed at children AFAIK and the character has been way overused in the last 15 years anyway. It was alright for the 1st 5 years, but then it got repetitious and annoying.TulioDude wrote:Even they didn't want to use Bumblebee, they could just not have him appear in the story, feels to unnecessary for me.
I don't think too many people are upset with what happened so much as the WAY it happened.
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Yep.
Comment by JazZeke
Oct 15, 2023
sol magnus wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Well the comics aren't aimed at children AFAIK and the character has been way overused in the last 15 years anyway. It was alright for the 1st 5 years, but then it got repetitious and annoying.TulioDude wrote:Even they didn't want to use Bumblebee, they could just not have him appear in the story, feels to unnecessary for me.
I don't think too many people are upset with what happened so much as the WAY it happened.
Yep.
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Dude your reaction is not connected to reality, I listened to you on the podcast and I rushed to see what was so deranged....
"Optimus taking a moment to appreciate nature, accidently stepping on a deer (as we might accidently step on an ant) but then feeling remorse and triggering PTSD flashback of violence on Cybertron"
This is actually a tender moment where get to see that this Prime appreciates all life, even more so than us. Because that deer amounts to an ant for him.
I might add, did you criticize Micheal Bay when Prime was stealing faces?, now there's a basement that needs checking!
Comment by SkyFire Prime
Oct 15, 2023
ScottyP wrote:Optimus stepping on a deer is so entirely unnecessary. Someone needs to check this writer's basement, that's some deranged, twistedly cruel stuff to put on a page. Might not be sticking around for much of this series!
Dude your reaction is not connected to reality, I listened to you on the podcast and I rushed to see what was so deranged....
"Optimus taking a moment to appreciate nature, accidently stepping on a deer (as we might accidently step on an ant) but then feeling remorse and triggering PTSD flashback of violence on Cybertron"
This is actually a tender moment where get to see that this Prime appreciates all life, even more so than us. Because that deer amounts to an ant for him.
I might add, did you criticize Micheal Bay when Prime was stealing faces?, now there's a basement that needs checking!
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It kinda hearkens back to The Iron Giant, IMO
Comment by JazZeke
Oct 15, 2023
SkyFire Prime wrote:ScottyP wrote:Optimus stepping on a deer is so entirely unnecessary. Someone needs to check this writer's basement, that's some deranged, twistedly cruel stuff to put on a page. Might not be sticking around for much of this series!
Dude your reaction is not connected to reality, I listened to you on the podcast and I rushed to see what was so deranged....
"Optimus taking a moment to appreciate nature, accidently stepping on a deer (as we might accidently step on an ant) but then feeling remorse and triggering PTSD flashback of violence on Cybertron"
This is actually a tender moment where get to see that this Prime appreciates all life, even more so than us. Because that deer amounts to an ant for him.
I might add, did you criticize Micheal Bay when Prime was stealing faces?, now there's a basement that needs checking!
It kinda hearkens back to The Iron Giant, IMO
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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Oct 15, 2023
I finally got to read my issue Friday night, and then I read it again last night. It was pretty good. I admit to not liking the cartoon robots, but once I started reading the comic, I felt a little more OK with it after I saw they are using updated vehicle modes, and the artist did a good job of the v-mode details (he actually included the wires and stuff trucks actually use with trailers!). Still wish the robot mode details were better, but seeing the interior work, it was really solid all the way around.
I also really liked the writing. It was a good pace, and it accomplished a lot in those pages. It moved without feeling like it was speeding.
I liked the characterizations too. Love Prime so far, it feels like a welcome change of pace for the character. Starscream is cranky and deranged, and I like it in this case. Soundwave caring for a wounded Ravage was a nice touch, glad they are continuing that kind of relationship with Soundwave and his cassettes.
The human cast also seems good so far, I like Carly and Spike, and I feel like we are going to get a unique sparkplug story here I am interested to see.
Overall, very strong start. I guess I will check out this continuity as we go for now. They got me hooked, now let's see what else we got.
I also really liked the writing. It was a good pace, and it accomplished a lot in those pages. It moved without feeling like it was speeding.
I liked the characterizations too. Love Prime so far, it feels like a welcome change of pace for the character. Starscream is cranky and deranged, and I like it in this case. Soundwave caring for a wounded Ravage was a nice touch, glad they are continuing that kind of relationship with Soundwave and his cassettes.
The human cast also seems good so far, I like Carly and Spike, and I feel like we are going to get a unique sparkplug story here I am interested to see.
Overall, very strong start. I guess I will check out this continuity as we go for now. They got me hooked, now let's see what else we got.
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Gonna take a hiatus from this thread. Good or bad, you won't be hearing from me about it.
Comment by ScottyP
Oct 16, 2023
I found your post in the episode thread entirely fair. This is too, but ouch. This one hurt.SkyFire Prime wrote:ScottyP wrote:Optimus stepping on a deer is so entirely unnecessary. Someone needs to check this writer's basement, that's some deranged, twistedly cruel stuff to put on a page. Might not be sticking around for much of this series!
Dude your reaction is not connected to reality
Gonna take a hiatus from this thread. Good or bad, you won't be hearing from me about it.
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A quick review!
Comment by sol magnus
Oct 16, 2023
A quick review!