Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes

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Fellow Seibertronian Autobot N has found some probable spoilers for the next wave of deluxes as part of Titans Return. The owner of Canadian collectibles site Canucktables, Hoffman, has heard from his distributor of the next wave of figures. Now please remember that distributers are not Hasbro and do not know all the facts so there can always be something lost in the translation (like when a distributer said there would be an MP Tank Megatron after misinterpreting the image of Legends Tank Megatron shaking MP 10's hand). Here are Hoffman's quote below for you to interpret as you wish:

Hoffman wrote:I run a toy store an TFs are a small part of what we sell. This info came from a solicitation from a distributor. I was told the info was ok to share, however with how strict Hasbro has been with their solicitations, I'm still wary about how much info I should divulge.

Hoffman wrote:I have no idea if this info came out and got buried in speculation threads or something, but I have some info on the next wave of TR Deluxes.

The new figures in this wave are Misfire, Twintwist, and Windblade. All retools.

The other figure listed in the assortment is Wolfwire. No packout details.

Hoffman wrote:Misfire - Triggerhappy
Twintwist - Topspin
Windblade - Highbrow

Wolfwire being rereleased makes sense since he is the only figure from the first 2 waves to not be rereleased yet. Let us know what you think! We will see it this is all true next week at Toy Fair 2016!

In any case, for those keeping track, this is how Wave 5 is shaping up to be:

So this is Wave 5 then and what they will show us at Toyfair:

Titan Master

C2389 Optimus Prime
C2390 Toraizer
C2391 Ramhorn

Legends

C2398 Cosmos
C2399 Seaspray

Deluxe

Misfire
Topsin
Windblade

Voyager

C2396 Octane
C2397 Blitzwing

Leader

C2388 Overlord

Credit(s): Hoffman from Canucktables

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Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858265)
Posted by shauyaun on February 9th, 2017 @ 2:58pm CST

I still don't get it
What's different about these cases?

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858266)
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on February 9th, 2017 @ 2:58pm CST

A Windblade from Highbrow? I'm intrigued. I can already imagine what it'll look like, but I want to see what it'll actually be.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858272)
Posted by william-james88 on February 9th, 2017 @ 3:06pm CST

Shauyaun wrote:I still don't get it
What's different about these cases?

Usually a case has different figures in it. Deluxes cases have 8. So if your store restocks with a case, you will have 2 of each deluxe from that wave on a shelf. But with a solid case, you will just have 8 of the same toy on the shelf. So instead of your store getting a case of different figures, it will just get the same figure 8 times.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858273)
Posted by Bounti76 on February 9th, 2017 @ 3:18pm CST

I think that the Windblade isn't correct. Yes, a retool of Highbrow would be simple enough- just change the cockpit, wings on the arms instead of rotors, retool the legs to be less chunky, and maybe redo the chest- be there's zero reason to have her in the lineup. She's getting a retooled RID figure, and that one makes her third figure in four years (Generations, RID, retooled RID), and that's not counting the straight up recolors. Hasbro isn't that dumb to make a fourth.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858275)
Posted by ThunderThruster on February 9th, 2017 @ 3:20pm CST

fourth, as RiD also did a legends class Windblade.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858276)
Posted by Bounti76 on February 9th, 2017 @ 3:21pm CST

ThunderThruster wrote:fourth, as RiD also did a legends class Windblade.

I stand corrected. Forgot about that one.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858277)
Posted by RiddlerJ on February 9th, 2017 @ 3:22pm CST

I'd like to see a Fastlane and Cloudraker from Blurr and Brainstorm.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858278)
Posted by o.supreme on February 9th, 2017 @ 3:23pm CST

Black Hat wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Triggerhappy and Twintwist? Yeah I can see. I'd like.

Windblade? What the actual crap. Why? And is the titan masers name gonna be M. Scott?

Maybe they'll give her a cool, creative name like Nadeshiko or Naginata. Or maybe we'll just get Xindxlade.

Nijika

, though I was half expecting that to be Perceptor's TM name.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858279)
Posted by no-one on February 9th, 2017 @ 3:25pm CST

Windblade, the new Bumblebee. Soon to be warming pegs near you :-P

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858281)
Posted by william-james88 on February 9th, 2017 @ 3:32pm CST

Bounti76 wrote:
ThunderThruster wrote:fourth, as RiD also did a legends class Windblade.

I stand corrected. Forgot about that one.

I wouldnt count different classes, they serve different purposes. If we do then Thunderhoof has as many toys as her, so it get ridiculous to compare when the real deal here is that we have bering rbought to the foreground again in another line.

The only logic I see to this is that Hasbro wants to cross market their Prime Wars web series of which she is the main character and thus wants her on the shelves for 10 year old kids who watch any 5 min clip on their I pad to notice as they go through a store with their parents.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858282)
Posted by o.supreme on February 9th, 2017 @ 3:35pm CST

william-james88 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Windblade? Really?... Bah!

So much for this being all about G1

Seconded. Also...Just FYI just wanted Cobo to know I read that line in Trace Beaulieu's "Angry Crow" voice

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858283)
Posted by Emerje on February 9th, 2017 @ 3:37pm CST

Bounti76 wrote:I think that the Windblade isn't correct. Yes, a retool of Highbrow would be simple enough- just change the cockpit, wings on the arms instead of rotors, retool the legs to be less chunky, and maybe redo the chest- be there's zero reason to have her in the lineup. She's getting a retooled RID figure, and that one makes her third figure in four years (Generations, RID, retooled RID), and that's not counting the straight up recolors. Hasbro isn't that dumb to make a fourth.

Yeah, it's five with the two consecutive SDCC exclusives. I really hope somebody lost their mind and it's actually Spinister being repainted from Highbrow.

Seems really strange that we'd get an entire wave of remolds/repaints and a single re-release.

Emerje

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858284)
Posted by Burn on February 9th, 2017 @ 3:41pm CST

carytheone wrote:Windblade, the new Bumblebee. Soon to be warming pegs near you

If that happens, the firebombs are coming your way!

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858285)
Posted by Deadput on February 9th, 2017 @ 3:43pm CST

Ah cool if this is true I can have a Windblade in my Titanmaster group as a Titanmaster.

That would make BlastWave, Stormshot and ROTF Breakaway the only deluxe Autobots that are not Titanmasters in said collection.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858287)
Posted by Deadput on February 9th, 2017 @ 3:46pm CST

Ah just saw the other post about solid cases that would explain why there were over 10 Mindwipe's in my Toys R Us a few weeks ago they were shelf warming then and probably still are.

About 4 Wolfwire's there too.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858289)
Posted by VanOscuro on February 9th, 2017 @ 3:49pm CST

Decepticon Stryker wrote:A Windblade from Highbrow? I'm intrigued. I can already imagine what it'll look like, but I want to see what it'll actually be.

I'd prefer Nautica or Velocity from at least one of the these molds. I'm more of a MTMTE/Lost Light fan. Plus Nautica is overdue.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858290)
Posted by no-one on February 9th, 2017 @ 3:49pm CST

o.supreme wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Windblade? Really?... Bah!

So much for this being all about G1

Seconded. Also...Just FYI just wanted Cobo to know I read that line in Trace Beaulieu's "Angry Crow" voice

Now that's a very specific reference I get ;)^

Misties worldwide :BOWDOWN:

Burn wrote:
carytheone wrote:Windblade, the new Bumblebee. Soon to be warming pegs near you

If that happens, the firebombs are coming your way!

You should see the Transformers RID section of my local TRU. I could start a Windblade clone war and have enough firebomb fodder to survive the initial volley. :michaelbay:

I personal really like the character and the Generations toy, but hey one less thing to buy :ic$:

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858292)
Posted by Kurona on February 9th, 2017 @ 3:54pm CST

Windblade from Highbrow... just... doesn't... work. At all.

I kinda miss when Hasbro would re-issue figures from a line or two back with a few changes to inflate the latter waves without resorting to redecoes. Like Blurr and Longrack and Runamuck and all that in Cybertron. That way we could get a somewhat better Windblade without resorting to making her a recolour of a mold that doesn't work for her at all.

It's a shame, really, because between her being okay in RiD and incredible in IDW I really like her. But all this incessant pushing by Hasbro to such ridiculous degrees is gonna make her the fandom's new Hot Rod. ... who I also like when everyone hated him.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858293)
Posted by william-james88 on February 9th, 2017 @ 3:55pm CST

Emerje wrote:Seems really strange that we'd get an entire wave of remolds/repaints and a single re-release.

Emerje

Right because Combiner Wars didnt give us 2 entire waves of just retools/redecos

And anyways, wave 4 has 5 deluxes so we can all assume any sense or pattern is non existent.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858295)
Posted by william-james88 on February 9th, 2017 @ 3:58pm CST

Kurona wrote:I kinda miss when Hasbro would re-issue figures from a line or two back with a few changes to inflate the latter waves without resorting to redecoes. Like Blurr [...] in Cybertron.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858298)
Posted by Kurona on February 9th, 2017 @ 3:59pm CST

william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:I kinda miss when Hasbro would re-issue figures from a line or two back with a few changes to inflate the latter waves without resorting to redecoes. Like Blurr [...] in Cybertron.

cursed gif

Fair, fair, bad example.
... surprised you didn't point out Runamuck, though.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858299)
Posted by Tranzilla on February 9th, 2017 @ 4:01pm CST

I just want to know where's the obvious Brave Max from Fort Max? I'm still kinda miffed we didn't get a Metrotitan or Necrotitan from Metroplex.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858302)
Posted by o.supreme on February 9th, 2017 @ 4:12pm CST

Tranzilla wrote:I just want to know where's the obvious Brave Max from Fort Max? I'm still kinda miffed we didn't get a Metrotitan or Necrotitan from Metroplex.

While I would love a Grand Max or Brave Max... there are a couple factors to consider:

1. Only TT would do this, most likely, not Hasbro
2. Because it would be a straight up "repaint" It will likely not happen (thought there were some exceptions for Unite Warriors)...

Come to think of it though, imagine if back in 2014, Hasbro had instead of releaseing a "special edition" Metroplex for SDCC, it would have been Metrotitan...that thing would be insanely expensive now.(even more than it already is) or for SDCC this past year, release a Grand Max repaint (There would be no Brave Max because in the English dub of RiD he is known as FM, unless it would have been released as RID Fortress Maximus...)

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858304)
Posted by frogbat on February 9th, 2017 @ 4:15pm CST

Now these are retools I'd probably get... interesting to see if it's indeed windblade

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858306)
Posted by griftimus prime on February 9th, 2017 @ 4:19pm CST

i really want topspin

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858309)
Posted by william-james88 on February 9th, 2017 @ 4:27pm CST

Kurona wrote:... surprised you didn't point out Runamuck, though.

I dont have hands on experience with that toy, so I feel less sick about it.

Tranzilla wrote:I just want to know where's the obvious Brave Max from Fort Max? I'm still kinda miffed we didn't get a Metrotitan or Necrotitan from Metroplex.

Ha! Did you hear the story? Someone asked that to Hasbro back when Metroplex came out and Hasbro's response was "Who?". We were never gonna get Metrotitan if no one at that company even knows he exists.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858312)
Posted by SureShot18 on February 9th, 2017 @ 4:42pm CST

Know I can just skip Triggerhappy because of Misfire. Spinister out of Highbrow would have been a MUCH better idea than Windblade. We already have two decent Windblade figures and now a retool. I might also want Spinister because of Scavengers. Who am I kidding I definitely do. :-D

Oh and Twintwist is neat.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858327)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 9th, 2017 @ 5:22pm CST

Aha! So that's how they're going to put Windblade in the next cartoon where she wants to kill everyone!

She'll go on a decapitation spree... and that's how Titan Masters were made!

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858328)
Posted by Autobot N on February 9th, 2017 @ 5:23pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:Aha! So that's how they're going to put Windblade in the next cartoon where she wants to kill everyone!

She'll go on a decapitation spree... and that's how Titan Masters were made!

Still a better story than the last one.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858330)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 9th, 2017 @ 5:26pm CST

Hoffman wrote:I have no idea if this info came out and got buried in speculation threads or something, but I have some info on the next wave of TR Deluxes.

The new figures in this wave are Misfire, Twintwist, and Windblade. All retools.

The other figure listed in the assortment is Wolfwire. No packout details.

Hoffman wrote:Misfire - Triggerhappy
Twintwist - Topspin
Windblade - Highbrow

Ok, here's what I think. If the information about the retools is correct, which I doubt a bit since I don't know how savvy Hoffman is with TF toys, no offense, then we could expect this:

Misfire: full body retool
Twintwist: full body retool
Windblade: partial body and/or head retool (like Brainstorm out of Blurr, or Quake out of Hardhead). I know Will will count that as a redeco :lol:

Remember, Highbrow was fully retooled from Scourge, it would make no sense adding a third to that series.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858331)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 9th, 2017 @ 5:27pm CST

The only ccomanies that would know that Metrotitan exists would be 3rd party ones! in fact they've kinda done that already......with Dystopia

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858332)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 9th, 2017 @ 5:29pm CST

Autobot N wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Aha! So that's how they're going to put Windblade in the next cartoon where she wants to kill everyone!

She'll go on a decapitation spree... and that's how Titan Masters were made!
Still a better story than the last one.

You have more faith in the sequel than most do.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858334)
Posted by Burn on February 9th, 2017 @ 5:32pm CST

SureShot18 wrote:Know I can just skip Triggerhappy because of Misfire.

WHAT?
WHAT?
WHAT??????

You do NOT skip Triggerhappy just because of a rumour. You go out and you search, and I don't care how long it takes you, just report into your family every now and then so they don't file a missing persons report, you go out and you find yourself a Triggerhappy right now!

I won't have any more talk like this!

Skipping over Triggerhappy. sheesh! That's just wrong.

:-P

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858336)
Posted by ThunderThruster on February 9th, 2017 @ 5:39pm CST

william-james88 wrote:
Bounti76 wrote:
ThunderThruster wrote:fourth, as RiD also did a legends class Windblade.

I stand corrected. Forgot about that one.

I wouldnt count different classes, they serve different purposes. If we do then Thunderhoof has as many toys as her, so it get ridiculous to compare when the real deal here is that we have bering rbought to the foreground again in another line.

I fail to see what difference the size class makes when counting the official figure releases of a character.
And lets be honest, we should be in awe of the great Kospego, and be glad he has equal (or more) figure releases than Hasbro's latest Mary-Sue.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858337)
Posted by SureShot18 on February 9th, 2017 @ 5:40pm CST

Burn wrote:
SureShot18 wrote:Know I can just skip Triggerhappy because of Misfire.

WHAT?
WHAT?
WHAT??????

You do NOT skip Triggerhappy just because of a rumour. You go out and you search, and I don't care how long it takes you, just report into your family every now and then so they don't file a missing persons report, you go out and you find yourself a Triggerhappy right now!

I won't have any more talk like this!

Skipping over Triggerhappy. sheesh! That's just wrong.

Of course if I see him in person I'll probably break and and buy him but if I don't I won't worry about ordering him. And in just a week it might not just be a rumor.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858338)
Posted by Burn on February 9th, 2017 @ 5:46pm CST

SureShot18 wrote:And in just a week it might not just be a rumor.

If he's a straight up repaint, it'll be a disappointment. But if there's slight remolding ... you're still going to have to get both. :-P

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858341)
Posted by Kurona on February 9th, 2017 @ 5:47pm CST

I will be skipping Triggerhappy for Misfire... but only with a heavy heart. Oh, if only Triggerhappy could have been the 1987 Targetmaster on the Scavengers...

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858342)
Posted by BombshellDaBug on February 9th, 2017 @ 5:57pm CST

SureShot18 wrote:Know I can just skip Triggerhappy because of Misfire. Spinister out of Highbrow would have been a MUCH better idea than Windblade. We already have two decent Windblade figures and now a retool. I might also want Spinister because of Scavengers. Who am I kidding I definitely do. Oh and Twintwist is neat.

Agreed. They've already released a ton of Windblade figures, and RiD Windblade keeps getting rereleased enough as is.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858343)
Posted by Burn on February 9th, 2017 @ 5:59pm CST

Kurona wrote:I will be skipping Triggerhappy for Misfire... but only with a heavy heart. Oh, if only Triggerhappy could have been the 1987 Targetmaster on the Scavengers...

Dead to me ...

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858344)
Posted by Kurona on February 9th, 2017 @ 6:07pm CST

Burn wrote:
Kurona wrote:I will be skipping Triggerhappy for Misfire... but only with a heavy heart. Oh, if only Triggerhappy could have been the 1987 Targetmaster on the Scavengers...

Dead to me ...

He says as if it was different before :-P

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858348)
Posted by Burn on February 9th, 2017 @ 6:31pm CST

Kurona wrote:
Burn wrote:
Kurona wrote:I will be skipping Triggerhappy for Misfire... but only with a heavy heart. Oh, if only Triggerhappy could have been the 1987 Targetmaster on the Scavengers...

Dead to me ...

He says as if it was different before

Well you are News Crew, but even most of them accept the awesomeness that is Triggerhappy.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858350)
Posted by Kurona on February 9th, 2017 @ 6:42pm CST

Burn wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Burn wrote:
Kurona wrote:I will be skipping Triggerhappy for Misfire... but only with a heavy heart. Oh, if only Triggerhappy could have been the 1987 Targetmaster on the Scavengers...

Dead to me ...

He says as if it was different before

Well you are News Crew, but even most of them accept the awesomeness that is Triggerhappy.

I love him too - again, heavy heart.
It's just that with my budget I have to prioritise MTMTE characters over everything else and for some reason no-one's used this guy yet. Hell, I think Arcee killed him off a few years ago.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858351)
Posted by william-james88 on February 9th, 2017 @ 6:48pm CST

Burn wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Burn wrote:
Kurona wrote:I will be skipping Triggerhappy for Misfire... but only with a heavy heart. Oh, if only Triggerhappy could have been the 1987 Targetmaster on the Scavengers...

Dead to me ...

He says as if it was different before

Well you are News Crew, but even most of them accept the awesomeness that is Triggerhappy.

Is he the new Stalker? Because if so, then you can count me on your side now. Although I also love TR HotRod way more than I thought I would.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Windblade: partial body and/or head retool (like Brainstorm out of Blurr, or Quake out of Hardhead). I know Will will count that as a redeco

Laugh all you want but I dont see why anyone would differ from saying that Quake, Krok and Getaway are straight redecos with new titan master faces.

:-P

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858352)
Posted by fenrir72 on February 9th, 2017 @ 6:50pm CST

Autobot N wrote:Found something interesting on TFW2005. As always, take with many grains of salt:
Hoffman wrote:I have no idea if this info came out and got buried in speculation threads or something, but I have some info on the next wave of TR Deluxes.

The new figures in this wave are Misfire, Twintwist, and Windblade. All retools.

The other figure listed in the assortment is Wolfwire. No packout details.
Hoffman wrote:Misfire - Triggerhappy
Twintwist - Topspin
Windblade - Highbrow

The guy owns a Canadian online store, so it's not out of the blue, but I still have my doubts.

Windblade again? OK I'l hold off the NaCl for now. :lol:

I can see that and that would be an extensive retool. The cockpit part would be remolded narrower, The wings slightly longer and the lower shins slimmer. The Headmaster/Titanmaster should be identified female. And the only company to do it right is Takara.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858353)
Posted by Kurona on February 9th, 2017 @ 6:51pm CST

Well, technically Quake, Krok and Breakaway are retools... but it somehow makes more sense colloquially to say redeco.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858355)
Posted by SureShot18 on February 9th, 2017 @ 6:54pm CST

Burn wrote:
SureShot18 wrote:And in just a week it might not just be a rumor.

If he's a straight up repaint, it'll be a disappointment. But if there's slight remolding ... you're still going to have to get both.

If he's just a repaint I'll be disappointed but if not...well like I said I'll probably break if I see Triggerhappy in store. :lol:

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858356)
Posted by Burn on February 9th, 2017 @ 6:55pm CST

william-james88 wrote:I also love TR HotRod way more than I thought I would.

Yeah, I just can't seem to like him.

Sure I've never been a fan of the character since he grabbed The Matrix before Magnus did, but this figure just feels ... like it lacks personality? Like I said, I don't know why I'm not a fan of the figure, because character aside, I liked the Classics version and I like the MP version. TR though? There's just something about him I'm not fussed on.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858359)
Posted by Albatross250 on February 9th, 2017 @ 7:07pm CST

WHAT
NO SLUGSLINGER? I'm unamused :evil:

..
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.
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On the bright side Misfire is a Triggerhappy retool so im happy with that

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858360)
Posted by william-james88 on February 9th, 2017 @ 7:12pm CST

Kurona wrote:Well, technically Quake, Krok and Breakaway are retools... but it somehow makes more sense colloquially to say redeco.

No, technically you can only call something a retool if they actually changed the tooling of the previous mold. The new face on Krok is not in any way based on the tooling from Skullcruncher. Its a different piece, a new mold. Nothing was changed to skullcruncher's actual mold, it wasnt touched and it wasnt even used for consulting purposes like the Dead End mold for Chromedome. So it cant be a retool. Its a straight redeco with a new piece. And in any case, the heads in this line are interchangeble accessories. The heads arent part of the body, they arent even attached in vehicle mode. its an accessory, like a gun. And I dont think that releasing the same mold with a new gun would be called a retool, it would be called the same mold with a new gun. Krok is the same skullcruncher mold with a new face. We dont have to find a new word for it, we dont have to look for the right technicality, thats all it is.

Re: Rumour for Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxes (1858362)
Posted by Albatross250 on February 9th, 2017 @ 7:19pm CST