Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-31 Fortress Maximus size comparison images
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Comment by Carnivius_Prime
Aug 7, 2016
Hm nope. These just don't do it for me. I can't justify paying loads of money for a giant mass of plastic that doesn't actually turn into anything decent (and certainly wouldn't fit on any of my shelves too). It's making me worry about Scorponok too whenever he gets made cos he'll likely get made giant to compete with the Autobots here and cos of the cartoon when I far, faaaar prefer the Marvel Comics Scorponok character who was relatively normal sized (if larger than most bots... same goes for Fort Max) and had decent characterisation (particularly loved his sacrifice against Unicron which felt far more natural a heroic deed for a Decepticon than turning Megatron into an Autobot). I'd love a brand new Scorpy but not a giant.
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Scorponok and Omega Supreme were the two other choices on the Titan Class poll, so yup, he's getting a Titan Class Toy. Which is a shame, because like you I prefer him to be Leader-sized.
Comment by Kurona
Aug 7, 2016
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Hm nope. These just don't do it for me. I can't justify paying loads of money for a giant mass of plastic that doesn't actually turn into anything decent (and certainly wouldn't fit on any of my shelves too). It's making me worry about Scorponok too whenever he gets made cos he'll likely get made giant to compete with the Autobots here and cos of the cartoon when I far, faaaar prefer the Marvel Comics Scorponok character who was relatively normal sized (if larger than most bots... same goes for Fort Max) and had decent characterisation (particularly loved his sacrifice against Unicron which felt far more natural a heroic deed for a Decepticon than turning Megatron into an Autobot). I'd love a brand new Scorpy but not a giant.
Scorponok and Omega Supreme were the two other choices on the Titan Class poll, so yup, he's getting a Titan Class Toy. Which is a shame, because like you I prefer him to be Leader-sized.
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Papa Max and Mama Metro didn't raise no Decepticon!
Comment by Railbomb
Aug 7, 2016
Kurona wrote:
Papa Max and Mama Metro didn't raise no Decepticon!
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Yeah. Damn. I'd certainly buy a Leader class version to pose next to Takara's upcoming version of Powermaster Prime and would be a lot more affordable and practical than a Titan class figure.
Metro and Trypticon I almost let slide cos they're never usually portrayed as more than simple minded behemoths but still this Titan size is just too large for my collecting. It might have suited Unicron though.
Comment by Carnivius_Prime
Aug 7, 2016
Kurona wrote:Scorponok and Omega Supreme were the two other choices on the Titan Class poll, so yup, he's getting a Titan Class Toy. Which is a shame, because like you I prefer him to be Leader-sized.
Yeah. Damn. I'd certainly buy a Leader class version to pose next to Takara's upcoming version of Powermaster Prime and would be a lot more affordable and practical than a Titan class figure.
Metro and Trypticon I almost let slide cos they're never usually portrayed as more than simple minded behemoths but still this Titan size is just too large for my collecting. It might have suited Unicron though.
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Personally speaking, of the Titan Class guys we know (Metroplex, Devastator, Fort Max, Trypticon, Scorponok, Omega Supreme), I'd only want to get Trypticon and Devastator at that size class. Fort Max and Scorponok are more endeared to me as Leader-sized and I can't say I really care about Metroplex. And Omega Supreme as a titan... come on, what.
I love Trypticon so much because it's a Decepticon T-rex that turns into a city, and Devastator I'm cool with because on his own, separate from the other CW guys he sort of kind of represents the mass-shifting often seen with Combiners in many continuities. I'd display him with Voyager Megatron and a ton of other Season 1/2 dudes and some other random guys. Plus, as shown from the Twitter picture; he's not quite as big as the other titans so it makes display space easier.
Comment by Kurona
Aug 7, 2016
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Kurona wrote:Scorponok and Omega Supreme were the two other choices on the Titan Class poll, so yup, he's getting a Titan Class Toy. Which is a shame, because like you I prefer him to be Leader-sized.
Yeah. Damn. I'd certainly buy a Leader class version to pose next to Takara's upcoming version of Powermaster Prime and would be a lot more affordable and practical than a Titan class figure.
Metro and Trypticon I almost let slide cos they're never usually portrayed as more than simple minded behemoths but still this Titan size is just too large for my collecting. It might have suited Unicron though.
Personally speaking, of the Titan Class guys we know (Metroplex, Devastator, Fort Max, Trypticon, Scorponok, Omega Supreme), I'd only want to get Trypticon and Devastator at that size class. Fort Max and Scorponok are more endeared to me as Leader-sized and I can't say I really care about Metroplex. And Omega Supreme as a titan... come on, what.
I love Trypticon so much because it's a Decepticon T-rex that turns into a city, and Devastator I'm cool with because on his own, separate from the other CW guys he sort of kind of represents the mass-shifting often seen with Combiners in many continuities. I'd display him with Voyager Megatron and a ton of other Season 1/2 dudes and some other random guys. Plus, as shown from the Twitter picture; he's not quite as big as the other titans so it makes display space easier.
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Comment by Me Grimlock King
Aug 7, 2016
Fortress Maximus is the father Metroplex the mother and Devastator their son LOL 
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No. Ginrai, properly romanized as Jinrai and spelled exactly the same way, is a real common Japanese word meaning "thunderclap" and has long been used as a character name in other places. The thing you're talking about is for the full name God Ginrai and is based on Gojira, not Godzilla. God Jinrai
Emerje
Comment by Emerje
Aug 7, 2016
Kurona wrote:RAR wrote:
As for Jinrai isn't it simply a Japanese guys name like Tomoaki or Shigaru or this list
Actually, Ginrai's name was made up - in a way that, in Japanese, if you remove every second syllable it spells Godzilla.
As an aspiring writer this sort of **** is what inspires me. There's no real reason for it. It doesn't really link into the theming of Masterforce as far as I'm aware. They just did it because Godzilla.
No. Ginrai, properly romanized as Jinrai and spelled exactly the same way, is a real common Japanese word meaning "thunderclap" and has long been used as a character name in other places. The thing you're talking about is for the full name God Ginrai and is based on Gojira, not Godzilla. God Jinrai
Emerje
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Even then, with the ginormous amount of homophones in Japanese, names in katakana are usually treated as proper nouns (meaning they don't get translated), and the fact no kanji are associated with the name, we can't really deduce any kind of meaning from it. Etymology, maybe.
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Aug 7, 2016
Emerje wrote:Kurona wrote:RAR wrote:
As for Jinrai isn't it simply a Japanese guys name like Tomoaki or Shigaru or this list
Actually, Ginrai's name was made up - in a way that, in Japanese, if you remove every second syllable it spells Godzilla.
As an aspiring writer this sort of **** is what inspires me. There's no real reason for it. It doesn't really link into the theming of Masterforce as far as I'm aware. They just did it because Godzilla.
No. Ginrai, properly romanized as Jinrai and spelled exactly the same way, is a real common Japanese word meaning "thunderclap" and has long been used as a character name in other places. The thing you're talking about is for the full name God Ginrai and is based on Gojira, not Godzilla. God Jinrai
Emerje
Even then, with the ginormous amount of homophones in Japanese, names in katakana are usually treated as proper nouns (meaning they don't get translated), and the fact no kanji are associated with the name, we can't really deduce any kind of meaning from it. Etymology, maybe.
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Right, I'm not trying to imply that we should start calling the character Thunderclap or anything. Just clearing up that this isn't a made up word just for the sake of the whole Gojira joke, a word already exists with the same spelling as does a proper name.
Emerje
Comment by Emerje
Aug 7, 2016
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Emerje wrote:Kurona wrote:RAR wrote:
As for Jinrai isn't it simply a Japanese guys name like Tomoaki or Shigaru or this list
Actually, Ginrai's name was made up - in a way that, in Japanese, if you remove every second syllable it spells Godzilla.
As an aspiring writer this sort of **** is what inspires me. There's no real reason for it. It doesn't really link into the theming of Masterforce as far as I'm aware. They just did it because Godzilla.
No. Ginrai, properly romanized as Jinrai and spelled exactly the same way, is a real common Japanese word meaning "thunderclap" and has long been used as a character name in other places. The thing you're talking about is for the full name God Ginrai and is based on Gojira, not Godzilla. God Jinrai
Emerje
Even then, with the ginormous amount of homophones in Japanese, names in katakana are usually treated as proper nouns (meaning they don't get translated), and the fact no kanji are associated with the name, we can't really deduce any kind of meaning from it. Etymology, maybe.
Right, I'm not trying to imply that we should start calling the character Thunderclap or anything. Just clearing up that this isn't a made up word just for the sake of the whole Gojira joke, a word already exists with the same spelling as does a proper name.
Emerje
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Comment by Cyberpath
Aug 8, 2016
I Futured Skruncher's floppy legs yesterday, now they are tight! (Maybe a little too tight, didn't realise it took that amount of time to take effect.) So proud! 
btw, anyone notice that the three Decepticon Headmasters have open hands while the four Autobot ones have closed hands?
btw, anyone notice that the three Decepticon Headmasters have open hands while the four Autobot ones have closed hands?
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Comment by o.supreme
Aug 8, 2016
Fort Max & Metroplex look great, always preferred Fort Max and Scorponok as a giants as opposed to their tiny portrayal in the comics. (Fort Max *technically* should be bigger than Metroplex, but having them the same size is fine.) Too bad The Constructicons weren't Deluxe, instead of Voyager size, then he would have been about the same size as the other CW Combiners, and would have made Metroplex & FM stand out more. Dev should be the same size as the other combiners, not larger.
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Comment by King Kuuga
Aug 8, 2016
A fortress should be smaller than an entire city, if you ask me. It can be a miniature city, sure, but not a "Metroplex". So I really feel like Metroplex and Trypticon should be the HUGEST transformers (aside from the planetbots), followed by Fort Max and Scorponok, who are regular headmasters after all, followed by Omega Supreme and the combiners, and then big but still reasonably sized guys like Jetfire and Magnus, and then everybody else.
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Comment by o.supreme
Aug 8, 2016
But Metroplex was never intended to be the whole of Autobot City (I know the toy commercial was poorly worded...) but merely a battle station within it.
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSd-JyokO4Fj0Q7SutGlDtTtZR390pE4ELaZBPwR5OJsfl5fSedHw
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSd-JyokO4Fj0Q7SutGlDtTtZR390pE4ELaZBPwR5OJsfl5fSedHw
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Depends on the continuity.
... and episode, let's be honest.
Comment by Kurona
Aug 8, 2016
o.supreme wrote:But Metroplex was never intended to be the whole of Autobot City (I know the toy commercial was poorly worded...) but merely a battle station within it.
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSd-JyokO4Fj0Q7SutGlDtTtZR390pE4ELaZBPwR5OJsfl5fSedHw
Depends on the continuity.
... and episode, let's be honest.
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Comment by King Kuuga
Aug 8, 2016
I haven't seen much of G1 that involved Metroplex, I'm basing my preference more on the names and functions and depictions in other fiction. "Metroplex" sounds bigger than "Fortress Maximus", but "Fortress Maximus" sounds more intimidating, so he could be the better-armed of the two (in a sad irony, his newer toy is rather unarmed compared to Metroplex).
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Comment by Cyberpath
Aug 8, 2016
Decided to scan the manga from LG21 & LG22 in case anyone went Hasbro with these, or just skipped it. Click to enlarge. Feel free to translate. 
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Of course. I was just stating my preference, as many had above, and provided proof why, since someone questioned (not argued, but asked a legitimate question) about why I felt the way I did.
You can spin it several different ways, and none would be wrong. As a kid I was just way more into the animated series than the comics, this still holds true today. Obviously toy size & scale, while it has improved slightly, is still far from perfect (G1 Blaster, Jetfire, & Omega Supreme toys nearly the same size...).
But logically...in 1986 when Metroplex came out it was marketed as "Autobot City", but even in season 3 you could see it was never the whole city. Fortress Maximus came out in 1987, was a much BIGGER toy, so it must have been BIGGER than Metroplex right? (the next big thing so to speak...)
The only episode Fortress Maximus appeared in was a short scene battling Scorponok on Cybertron. With no real reference other than they were both "big". In the Japanese series Headmasters however, there are a few scenes of them together which clearly show Fortress Maximus as the larger.
Now...for fans that feel different, for various reasons (comics, video games, more recent toys etc...) I totally get that, and they are not wrong. I just think one advantage of having TR Fort Max being an extensive retool of 2013 Generations Metroplex is that now they are the same size, (Titans) and the argument can be put to rest.
Comment by o.supreme
Aug 8, 2016
Kurona wrote:Depends on the continuity.
... and episode, let's be honest.
Of course. I was just stating my preference, as many had above, and provided proof why, since someone questioned (not argued, but asked a legitimate question) about why I felt the way I did.
You can spin it several different ways, and none would be wrong. As a kid I was just way more into the animated series than the comics, this still holds true today. Obviously toy size & scale, while it has improved slightly, is still far from perfect (G1 Blaster, Jetfire, & Omega Supreme toys nearly the same size...).
But logically...in 1986 when Metroplex came out it was marketed as "Autobot City", but even in season 3 you could see it was never the whole city. Fortress Maximus came out in 1987, was a much BIGGER toy, so it must have been BIGGER than Metroplex right? (the next big thing so to speak...)
The only episode Fortress Maximus appeared in was a short scene battling Scorponok on Cybertron. With no real reference other than they were both "big". In the Japanese series Headmasters however, there are a few scenes of them together which clearly show Fortress Maximus as the larger.
Now...for fans that feel different, for various reasons (comics, video games, more recent toys etc...) I totally get that, and they are not wrong. I just think one advantage of having TR Fort Max being an extensive retool of 2013 Generations Metroplex is that now they are the same size, (Titans) and the argument can be put to rest.
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But in the JP continuity, 'plex more or less reached Fortress' knees. That and the tech that inspired him was kind of supernatural technology.
Comment by fenrir72
Aug 8, 2016
That Bot wrote:A fortress should be smaller than an entire city, if you ask me. It can be a miniature city, sure, but not a "Metroplex". So I really feel like Metroplex and Trypticon should be the HUGEST transformers (aside from the planetbots), followed by Fort Max and Scorponok, who are regular headmasters after all, followed by Omega Supreme and the combiners, and then big but still reasonably sized guys like Jetfire and Magnus, and then everybody else.
But in the JP continuity, 'plex more or less reached Fortress' knees. That and the tech that inspired him was kind of supernatural technology.
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Also, what's the beef with Leader tank Megatron turning into Galvatron's head manga? The story images looks wacky nutz!
Comment by fenrir72
Aug 8, 2016
Cyberpath wrote:Decided to scan the manga from LG21 & LG22 in case anyone went Hasbro with these, or just skipped it. Click to enlarge. Feel free to translate.
Also, what's the beef with Leader tank Megatron turning into Galvatron's head manga? The story images looks wacky nutz!
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Comment by Cyberpath
Aug 9, 2016
I like how the vulture/dino thing was used to trap Chromedome. At least I think that's what happened.
