Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Scourge Packaging Image

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:btw Can anyone confirm that the Headmasters for Legends are going unnamed? I've checked box images, but I can't see the actual names for the little guys anywhere. No "Grax", no "Ros", nothing. I'm assuming no sight of "Haywire" or "Fracas" either.

I would be inclined to agree. It appears everyone is sticking with the whole "head is the character and the body is power armor" thing

Nothing in my Legends box too.

It looks nice but i think i'll be sticking with the Takara United version and the Hasbro Scourges as sweeps.

The headmasters have no name on the Takara packaging, because in the Japanese continuity they never had humanoid partners the Transformers combined with. The headmasters are the actual robots and because they are really small they made bigger bodies called transtectors to interact and combine with.

Randomhero wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:btw Can anyone confirm that the Headmasters for Legends are going unnamed? I've checked box images, but I can't see the actual names for the little guys anywhere. No "Grax", no "Ros", nothing. I'm assuming no sight of "Haywire" or "Fracas" either.

I would be inclined to agree. It appears everyone is sticking with the whole "head is the character and the body is power armor" thing

Nothing in my Legends box too.

O well, I'll still be calling them by their original Japanese names, because I can

Exactly. That's why I don't understand when people get all mad when hasbro has to change the name of a character due to trademarks. It's your toy, you can call it whatever you want when you own it. It's not that big of a deal

Same here

Randomhero wrote:Does anyone know where you can still order a scourge? I've checked most places but it's all out of stock preorders. I finally found a site that carries the Takara Computron preorder but $55 for shipping!

He's currently sold out on HLJ, but you should keep an eye on it because they might have more avaliable once they get their stock. (Or someone might cancel until then.)

http://hlj.com/product/TKT86851?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post

This item is expected to be released on or about 08/31. We will accept additional orders at that time if supplies are sufficient.

fenrir72 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Does anyone know where you can still order a scourge? I've checked most places but it's all out of stock preorders. I finally found a site that carries the Takara Computron preorder but $55 for shipping!

@ RH sorry to burst your hopes but a JP site I was planning on recommending is also sold out. Best is once on pre-order..... order. Don't listen to the naysayers.

I have TR scourge -three in fact, gotta have those sweeps- but I really love the Sakamoto comics and I personally do enjoy the color scheme of Takaras. I'm someone who always defends hasbro and am totally cool with what we get but I did want a Takara scrounge. I'm very tempted d by Blurr. I found a site that is not sold out on preorders for him.

Sabrblade wrote:

DMSL wrote:The headmasters have no name on the Takara packaging, because in the Japanese continuity they never had humanoid partners the Transformers combined with. The headmasters are the actual robots and because they are really small they made bigger bodies called transtectors to interact and combine with.

Yes, but, even back in 1987, Takara gave the little Headmasters their own unique names that differed from the names of their Transtectors (even if most of these names never made it into the Japanese fiction): Chrome, Cana, Ros, Gorter, Cerebros, Grax, Monzo, Vorath, and Scorponok. JelZe was wondering if Takara retained these original toy-only names for the Legends Headmasters or not.

Takara will call it what they want. I don't think they have the same issues with trademarks as we do. Only issue Takara has with names is when they already name a character something and then create an homage character like in armada Sureshock was named in Arcee in Japan and in energon when Arcee showed up Takara had to call her Ariel instead because Armada Arcee was redone as energon minicon again.

Sabrblade wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

DMSL wrote:The headmasters have no name on the Takara packaging, because in the Japanese continuity they never had humanoid partners the Transformers combined with. The headmasters are the actual robots and because they are really small they made bigger bodies called transtectors to interact and combine with.

Yes, but, even back in 1987, Takara gave the little Headmasters their own unique names that differed from the names of their Transtectors (even if most of these names never made it into the Japanese fiction): Chrome, Cana, Ros, Gorter, Cerebros, Grax, Monzo, Vorath, and Scorponok. JelZe was wondering if Takara retained these original toy-only names for the Legends Headmasters or not.

Takara will call it what they want. I don't think they have the same issues with trademarks as we do. Only issue Takara has with names is when they already name a character something and then create an homage character like in armada Sureshock was named in Arcee in Japan and in energon when Arcee showed up Takara had to call her Ariel instead because Armada Arcee was redone as energon minicon again.

It's not a matter of Trademarks or issues, JelZe was just wondering if Takara kept the old toy names or not.

You said at the end whether or not they retained those names. I was just saying that takara doesn't not care why so ever. They call it what they want

Well the internal comics more or less hints they are from the same JP universe so more or less fiction wise it's them. Fiction by all intents and purpose is the extension of the product's advertisements.

Ugh... the little guys go by the names of the whole for the most part in the comics, that I already saw. I was indeed only curious if the original names would be acknowledged on the package, that's it! Nothing more, nothing less.

Speaking of names, there are only two instances so far in which the names differ:

Galvatron: the little Headmaster is shown to be Megatron, popping out of his original CW/Legends body.
Broadcast: Twincast is mentioned by name in the comics.

destructorinspector wrote:1. USA watching order after google.com -is it ok?:

Yes, the US only watching order is Beast Wars seasons 1-3 then Beast Machines seasons 1-2, and yes, Beast Machines was renamed Beast Wars Returns in Japan.

2. USA+JAP watching order -is it ok

Broadcast order in Japan was:
Beast Wars s1
Beast Wars II
Beast Wars Neo
Beast Wars Metals (US s2 and s3)
I am unclear on how the Japanese shows fit into the continuity but I don't think there's much cross-referencing between the US and JP seasons, even in the Japanese dub of the former.

Here is the 1st request for above entries: please give me idk ebay/amazon links to buy this stuff (latest edition / best quality ones) please.

You seem to have found those already.

And for main reason I came here, toys toys toys!

My latest order of B.W toyline is this bebe:
http://hlj.com/product/TKT86891?utm_source=seibertron.com&gclid=C&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post ... cgodC10K9Q

2nd Question: is the number given a random thing? MP34 transformers masterpiece. I mean what about MP1 to MP 33?? and why only him & Optimus primal was made in this series. Will there be more of it or just those 2? Wonder if it is worth buying him anyway now...

The Transformers Masterpiece line comprises mostly 1980s G1 characters. So far, Convoy and Cheetor are the only characters to be released in the series, but there may be more. We don't really know yet. If you want a complete Masterpiece Beast Wars collection you may want to wait until we see if more characters are announced. You can read more about the Masterpiece line here.

Finally as an addition to my shopping list I wanted to add more toys from B.W but got confused again...

Question 3rd: Is this the same stuff or different mold/timeline made toy?
http://hlj.com/product/TKT81285?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post
vs
https://www.amazon.com/Takara-Legends-T?tag=seibertron07-20& ... beast+wars


https://www.amazon.com/Takara-Legends-T?tag=seibertron07-20& ... beast+wars
vs
https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Gen?tag=seibertron07-20& ... ars+rhinox


https://www.amazon.com/Takara-Legends-T?tag=seibertron07-20& ... JFKFGP5SBW
vs
https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Gen?tag=seibertron07-20& ... 7FDY16HQ5Q
vs
https://www.amazon.com/Transformer-TF-G?tag=seibertron07-20& ... beast+wars

The Transformers Generations and Transformers Legends figures are the same molds, released by Hasbro and Takara respectively. Takara is Hasbro's business partner and they own Transformers in Japan. As you can see, the figures have different colorations, this is common between Hasbro and Takara. The LG-EX versions of Rattrap, Rhinox, and Waspinator are the most recent releases, designed to have the utmost screen accuracy, but they were convention exclusives and will fetch a high price tag as a result.[/quote]

Question 4th: which is better and where to buy for the cheapest price with shipping to Poland.

That's outside my area of expertise, unfortunately.

Last question numero 5.. which version of would u recommend to buy (links please):
ULTRA WANT: Tigatron, Megatron,Dinobot,Blackarachnia,Inferno,Silverbolt,Tarantulas
SECOND SORT: Tigerhawk,Depth Charge.

This is complicated. I suggest going to the wiki page for each character, scrolling to the toy section, and seeing which versions of the toys you like.

Or do u happen to know if there will be some new rls of them and its worth to wait?

At this point, we don't know of any upcoming Beast Wars characters receiving toys other than Convoy and Cheetor's MPs. This is not to say there won't be any, however, but the celebration of the 20th anniversary has been less than exciting.