Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG Shouki Box Revealed

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I hate to think that if these don't sell well we may end up with a bunch of parts that we really can't do anything with. I mean this is how I would do things, I'm just that type of guy.

That's the flipside of leaving the important connecting part til last. If they don't sell in the numbers they are expecting, given the expense of a Masterpiece combiner, would they cut the line short? Just like the failed HasLab projects...

"Enjoy your 5/6 of an MP Gestalt."

I really don't see that happening, and the comparisons to Haslab aren't really a fair comparison. Halslab is an all or noting proposition. If it meets funding, it gets made, that simple. The decisoin to proceed comes after the fans have backed it. For MPG Raiden, they already made the decision to go forward when the offered pre-orders, and its really too late to turn back now without completely trashing their reputation as well as pissing off their online retailers.

Shouki is happening, I can't see them pulling the plug on him if they haven't already. With a combiner team, they should be able to bank on selling about the same numbers of all 6, as it really doesn't make sense that many people would only want one of the figures without the others.

My point is, they already should know whether they have the numbers to proceed just based on Shouki's pre-orders. Aside from financial ruin or death, I can't see someone who ordered Shouki not ordering the rest. On the flip side, they may pull in come customers in the middle of things who missed out on the first few bots, so there is a chance of pulling in some new customers to the line.

It just makes the most sense to me that if they were going to pull the plug, it would have been done already before production of Shouki and before preparing to announce the second bot. There are going to be far too many sunk costs they cannot recover if they pull things now and it will only get worse the further along things go.

The box layout is interesting. After nearly 20 years of a big Transformers logo on the front of MP boxes it's now overshadowed by a massive MPG logo. They really want to drive home the fact that this is something different from what we're used to, but still an MP. Feels like its own line with several possibilities in the future rather than just a one and done offshoot.

Emerje

Getsuei Images from Amazon Japan. It is the very early morning hours of Thursday the 13th, so hopefully the pre-order should be going up sometime today.

http://figure.rash.jp/amazon_gallery.ph ... B09PYVWFLT



*edit* Found It

https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/dp/B09PYV?tag=seibertron00-22& ... &keywords=トランスフォーマー+マスターピース&qid=1642008710&sprefix=transformers%2Caps%2C79&sr=8-46

If the rest of the releases are only 3 months apart, we could be getting the complete Raiden sooner than expected ... Well not that much sooner. I initially predicted we would have them all by end of year (December 2023). If all are released 3 months apart, we could have the last one by October 2023, so 2 months earlier... .

Well if SS Devastator Fans can be patient and wait, so can I.

Great news to those wanting some more MP Raiden news. Amazon japan has revealed the second of six trainbots today. This is MPG-02 – Masterpiece Trainbot Getsuei. You'll let us know what you think from the images posted below since it seems the alt mode was even more favoured than in the first trainbot. While it gives the bot some odd proportions with very tall legs, it does make one of the most gorgeous train modes ever seen on a Transformers toy. And it being revealed on Amazon means you get access to the preorder right away. The price is good news too. The original MSRP is 160000 yen, which is $140 USD. And what's great about this price is that it is lower than the first MP trainbot release, who's price went down to only $127 USD (image below for proof of current price decrease). So these trainbots won't all be the same price and this one is cheaper than the first and will only get cheaper if you stick to Amazon Japan. Other outlets will probably stick to the $140 USD mark.

You can click on any image to be brought to the Amazon Japan page.

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Not sure how you got a price that low, but congrats.


Also, where are you seeing the MSRP for Getsuei as Y 16,000? Amazon Japan has him currently at Y 17,600. I understand the price will go down, I'm just not seeing these low prices you are. Everything I'm seeing matches what other sites are reporting. Maybe it's cheaper in Canada because of the Canadian Dollar/ Yen exchange rate?

Emerje and I were trying to figure this out earlier, as he and I both got different prices than Will, and now you. I'm at 15888 for Shouki, I don't remember where Emerge was but it was lower than me. The Amazon Japan price will include whatever applicable taxes or import fees. I'm not sure if the US has any import taxes/fees that Canada does not, and I'm not sure if Amazon.jp counts as an extension of Amazon.com for purposes of adding any state taxes. the price difference above Will's for me doesn't match up with Illinois state sales tax, its a little bit higher that just counting IL tax.

Also the price shown in the amazon.jp listing includes Japan sales tax. So the price you get is that price, minus Japan tax, then plus whatever applicable fees they are assessing. As an example of this, MPG-02 is shown at 17600 but after ordering mine is at 17453 plus shipping. If I remember Shouki correctly, it went down even further a day or 2 after I ordered that was not a price drop, so they may still adjust things.

Edit: also forgot to add I believe Japan's tax is 10%, so MSRP of 16000 plus 1600 tax gets you to the 17600 list price.

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:
Also, where are you seeing the MSRP for Getsuei as Y 16,000? Amazon Japan has him currently at Y 17,600. I understand the price will go down, I'm just not seeing these low prices you are. Everything I'm seeing matches what other sites are reporting. Maybe it's cheaper in Canada because of the Canadian Dollar/ Yen exchange rate?

Same way you see the real price for the first trainbot, just add it to your cart and start checkout. 17600 includes tax for Japanese citizens, that's not the MSRP

And it's unrelated to exchange rates since everything is always in yen.

facepalm, I just made the same reply on my own above.

Ugh! FOMO finally got to me. I stopped collecting Masterpiece a while ago, and really don't want to pay that much for a combiner. But.. I don't know if these will ever be made at the Generations level and would hate to miss a chance to own Raiden in some form.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know if they ever mentioned the model train scale (or closest fit) of the train modes, or at least the tracks? It would be awesome if they were spaced for 1:64 train tracks. My dad is a train collector and that is his scale.

They seem to be doing a pretty good job with the trainbots for Masterpiece, the train modes already look lovely and the 'bot modes look pretty dang good considering they still have combining duties. I don't collect Masterpieces myself, but it would be interesting if they decided to go with Generations "dumbed-down" versions

william-james88 wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:Ugh! FOMO finally got to me. I stopped collecting Masterpiece a while ago, and really don't want to pay that much for a combiner. But.. I don't know if these will ever be made at the Generations level and would hate to miss a chance to own Raiden in some form.

If ever there are some at the generstions level, I am certain the alt modes won't look nearly as good.

I'm just happy these guys seem to scale very well with current toys. They won't look out of place in a CHUG collection.