Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews

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Coming just the day after Hascon has ended, we come to you with not one, or even a pair, but three reviews of the highly anticipated Titans Return Arcee, a Hascon early access exclusive that will also be available on Hasbro Toy Shop later this month. Please enjoy the reviews below by fellow Seibertronian Scottimus Prime as well as YouTube users Protoman Of ProtoRetro and YRQRM0, and let us know what you think of this figure. Will you be picking her up?

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Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910327)
Posted by YRQRM0 on September 11th, 2017 @ 11:24pm CDT

Thanks for the shout-out, I also reviewed the power bank prime in a lot of detail:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQZJoU3JiPM

I don't think this figure has received the love it deserves

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910331)
Posted by Bounti76 on September 12th, 2017 @ 12:27am CDT

YRQRM0 wrote:Thanks for the shout-out, I also reviewed the power bank prime in a lot of detail:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQZJoU3JiPM

I don't think this figure has received the love it deserves

We newsed that a little while ago!
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... iew/39510/

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910332)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on September 12th, 2017 @ 12:49am CDT

So, I picked up Krok yesterday. I like him. They did a good job recreating the original's color layout. It's my first experience with the Skullsmasher mold. Which itself is a brilliant update of the G1 design, aside from the tail's peg for use as a handheld weapon being 90 degrees off from the angle it should be. I guess the designer's mind wandered to Beast Wars Megatron while they were working. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who's brought this up, but the hindlegs strike me as unfinished business. The way they're sculpted, with two solidly separate hollow sections (instead of a contiguous one), suggests that they were meant to have a knee joint originally. And then the way they're attached (with the ball on a separate plate instead of molded as part of the leg) looks like an aborted hinge setup for tucking them away in robot mode.

Owning Krok made me belatedly realize something: The vehicles of the separate Titan Masters. are a revisit of the Action Master Partner concept.

I also realized that Krok or Skullsmasher would be a good base for a Horri-Bull/Bullhorn kitbash. The transformation schemes are almost identical, the reptilian detailing of the sculpt works well..

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910354)
Posted by nycPrime on September 12th, 2017 @ 6:30am CDT

Twin Twist and his wave mates are available for purchase at TRU at MSRP.
Got my order in for TT and WB. Passed on Misfire.

https://www.toysrus.com/product?productId=112871756

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910366)
Posted by Relic0037 on September 12th, 2017 @ 6:58am CDT

So the new Arcee will be up for sale at :HASBRO:

Toy Shop.......hopefully she will be available for more than 10 minutes.

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910436)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 12th, 2017 @ 11:06am CDT

Wanted to just put this here, since both RiD and TR did a Twinferno. They actually look pretty decent together!

2 heads and 4 dragon heads make for some interesting conversations :lol:

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910450)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 12th, 2017 @ 11:31am CDT

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Autobot puppet show!

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910477)
Posted by Rysquad on September 12th, 2017 @ 12:54pm CDT

Arcee/Leinad and Ultra Magnus as an Autobot boxset.

Will we get a Decepticon one (with the Scorponok Titan Master)?

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910478)
Posted by Rysquad on September 12th, 2017 @ 12:55pm CDT

nycPrime wrote:Twin Twist and his wave mates are available for purchase at TRU at MSRP.
Got my order in for TT and WB. Passed on Misfire.

https://www.toysrus.com/product?productId=112871756

Showing OOS for me now.

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910488)
Posted by mordhelm on September 12th, 2017 @ 2:10pm CDT

Not sure if this is the right place for this, or if it needs a new thread entirely, but I was looking into a bit of a consumer cost analysis on Titans Return vs Combiner Wars and it looks like, while it seems like CW was repaint city and had so much to collect it made your head spin, it looks like Hasbro has a sweet spot for what they think people are willing to pay to complete a line.

Both Combiner Wars and Titans Return came in at just a bit over $1600. How is that possible? Well it happened because, as we tend to forget, they introduced a new size class (Titan Masters) and had 2 Titan class figures instead of 1. A couple of patterns I noticed:

Not including the G2 boxsets (which basically were hasbro just wanting to squeeze every penny out of nostalgia, which I was okay with since I bought them), or the Titan Force (again, repaints released figures) the boxset/exclusive counts were remarkably similar:

Titans Return has 2 boxsets and 3 separate exclusives (Arcee, Clones, and Shreddicus). looking at around $300 for those exclusives.

Combiner Wars has 3 boxsest, Liokaiser, Computron, and Pyra Magna. Also $300.

Retail Voyagers were matched at 9 a piece, and Retail Leaders were matched at 6 as well.

Here it where I go into the theoretical aspect, the discussion portion if you will, feel free to skip if you don't want to read it.

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So, for those of us clamoring for certain figures, and disappointed by the abrupt ending of Titans Return (Slugslinger being the sole figure to end the line), we now have some insight into why. Hasbro appears to have met it's goal of what it feels individuals are willing to purchase within the line.

In terms of certain figures, here are the ones I have heard people wishing would have released:

Legends:
Frumble, Eject, Steeljaw, Ratbat, Cliffjumper, Freeway, Goldbug, Rollbar, Searchlight, Wideload

Deluxe:
Headmasters: Siren, Nightbeat, Hosehead, Fangry, Horri-Bull, Squeezeplay
Powermasters: Slapdash, Joyride
Targetmasters: Sureshot, Crosshairs, Pointblank, Spinister, Needlenose

Voyager:
Apeface, Snapdragon

So in order to fit these in, you would have to remove other figures... let's assume, that you take away Trypticon and the Titan Masters.

Trypticon could be worth 6 voyagers, 9-10 deluxes, or 15 legends
The titan masters could be valued at 2 per legends, 3 per deluxe, 5 per voyager

Theoretically, you could get all the Powermasters and Targetmasters, the Horrorcons, Frumble, Eject, Steeljaw, Ratbat, and Ramhorn as a Legends instead of Titan Master.

Personally, I definitely would have rather had Trypticon, and wait for the rest to trickle out eventually, versus waiting even longer for the Titans.

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Now what this means to me, moving forward, is that I expect Power of the Primes to maintain that $1600 collection number, and to keep approximately 9 voyagers and 6 leaders. We know the Titan already, and since this will be done before summer 2019, we expect the 2019 TItan to be included in the next Generations line. So I think we will see a decent number of figures in this line.

Obviously this post is from my perspective, but feel free to ask questions or put your own spin on it and share.

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910494)
Posted by nycPrime on September 12th, 2017 @ 2:52pm CDT

Rysquad wrote:
nycPrime wrote:Twin Twist and his wave mates are available for purchase at TRU at MSRP.
Got my order in for TT and WB. Passed on Misfire.

https://www.toysrus.com/product?productId=112871756

Showing OOS for me now.

Twin Twist sold out in under an hour. The other 2 sold out a few hours later. Pretty amazing demand.

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910496)
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on September 12th, 2017 @ 2:56pm CDT

nycPrime wrote:
Rysquad wrote:
nycPrime wrote:Twin Twist and his wave mates are available for purchase at TRU at MSRP.
Got my order in for TT and WB. Passed on Misfire.

https://www.toysrus.com/product?productId=112871756

Showing OOS for me now.

Twin Twist sold out in under an hour. The other 2 sold out a few hours later. Pretty amazing demand.

They do seem hard to come by. I saw two cases at my local TRU. Only picked up Misfire and Twintwist at the time. Finally went on Amazon and got Windblade the other day. I got tired of not finding her anywhere.

As for Amazon, Hot Rod is only $9.99 with Prime shipping right now.

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910505)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on September 12th, 2017 @ 3:47pm CDT

Observation on why Getaway AKA Breakaway was picked to flesh out Wave 3 that's been rattling around in my head for a while:
With Powermaster Optimus Prime having been made, Hasbro decided they wanted another Autobot Powermaster character to go with him. And of all the remaining Autobot Powermasters, Getaway was the only one they could really shoehorn an existing Titans Return mold into being.

The ideal base figure for Getaway would be Universe Sunstreaker, but of course that would have been more work to turn into a TR toy if it was even possible.

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910572)
Posted by bodrock on September 12th, 2017 @ 11:10pm CDT

I totally get why wave 5&6 figures sell out online -- they're hard to find in the States. I have yet to see them at all in Oregon, despite having so may brick & mortar options.

So I may not get these figures, due to poor purchasing decisions by my local buyers. :HEADHURTS:

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910582)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 13th, 2017 @ 2:35am CDT

Just to make sure.
Will that HASCON Arcee be a regular release or remain exclusive? Because 100$ for a single TR deluxe is a hard pill to swallow.

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910592)
Posted by Kurona on September 13th, 2017 @ 5:01am CDT

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:That shot of the Magnus head on Arcee was frightening...

Oh and for anyone who gets that Magnus head: put it on Magnus Prime! The helmet will cover it up, but at least you can say your Magnus Prime does have a Magnus head somewhere!

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910595)
Posted by Insurgent on September 13th, 2017 @ 5:34am CDT

THE PAIN!!! MAKE IT STOP!!!!!

Seriously, that does not look good.

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910600)
Posted by Evil Eye on September 13th, 2017 @ 6:18am CDT

That is...not a good facesculpt. Ech.

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910621)
Posted by Relic0037 on September 13th, 2017 @ 8:05am CDT

Kurona wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:That shot of the Magnus head on Arcee was frightening...

Oh and for anyone who gets that Magnus head: put it on Magnus Prime! The helmet will cover it up, but at least you can say your Magnus Prime does have a Magnus head somewhere!

It seems like many of these stand alone Titan Master heads like Ultra Magnus & Thunderwing don't have many good options for bodies to display them on. I wonder if Thunderwing would work on Galvatron's body though.

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910622)
Posted by Kurona on September 13th, 2017 @ 8:10am CDT

Magnus might look good on Top Spin/Twin Twist?

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910631)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on September 13th, 2017 @ 9:22am CDT

Relic0037 wrote:It seems like many of these stand alone Titan Master heads like Ultra Magnus & Thunderwing don't have many good options for bodies to display them on. I wonder if Thunderwing would work on Galvatron's body though.

I actually does work pretty well. I have the Hasbro version, but I think it would work even better on the Takara one as there is some light purple on Thunderwing.

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Posted by Relic0037 on September 13th, 2017 @ 11:24am CDT

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Relic0037 wrote:It seems like many of these stand alone Titan Master heads like Ultra Magnus & Thunderwing don't have many good options for bodies to display them on. I wonder if Thunderwing would work on Galvatron's body though.

I actually does work pretty well. I have the Hasbro version, but I think it would work even better on the Takara one as there is some light purple on Thunderwing.

It does really work well with the lighter purple.

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Posted by Relic0037 on September 13th, 2017 @ 11:30am CDT

& just for a comparison, here he is next to the Generations Thunderwing:

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Posted by Rysquad on September 13th, 2017 @ 12:33pm CDT

Relic0037 wrote:
Kurona wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:That shot of the Magnus head on Arcee was frightening...

Oh and for anyone who gets that Magnus head: put it on Magnus Prime! The helmet will cover it up, but at least you can say your Magnus Prime does have a Magnus head somewhere!

It seems like many of these stand alone Titan Master heads like Ultra Magnus & Thunderwing don't have many good options for bodies to display them on. I wonder if Thunderwing would work on Galvatron's body though.

Anyone get a chance to put Magnus on Laser Prime?

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910688)
Posted by bodrock on September 13th, 2017 @ 12:35pm CDT

I really believe Nitro ZEUSSSSSS is the body for TR Thunderwing.

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Posted by Rysquad on September 13th, 2017 @ 2:21pm CDT

bodrock wrote:I really believe Nitro ZEUSSSSSS is the body for TR Thunderwing.

Agreed.

Already got Thunderwing loose on eBay.

Now just waiting for a good price or store availability on Nitro.

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910723)
Posted by bodrock on September 13th, 2017 @ 3:03pm CDT

As cool as I find that TR Arcee, she won't be replacing the multiple Generations figures I have of her...

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And imho, Nautica wore it better.

TR Cosmos & Seaspray finally made it to Oregon!

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Now where's Misfire....

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910736)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on September 13th, 2017 @ 5:14pm CDT

Rysquad wrote:Now just waiting for a good price or store availability on Nitro.

Me too, damn Grimlocks everywhere.

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910747)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on September 13th, 2017 @ 6:40pm CDT

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Rysquad wrote:Now just waiting for a good price or store availability on Nitro.

Me too, damn Grimlocks everywhere.

Kind of a shame they didn't give Grimlock a removable head too. Although that's just a small letdown, it's not something stupid like repacking AoE Bumblebee instead of DotM Bumblebee... But this isn't the thread for that rant.

EDIT: Fixed the stupid "smell" typo.. :HEADHURTS:

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1910944)
Posted by bodrock on September 14th, 2017 @ 2:09pm CDT

Seaspray was worth the wait!

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Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on September 14th, 2017 @ 5:46pm CDT

EDIT: I am now A. on my computer and B. recovered from irritation at the tab crashing twice in my phone browser when I was trying to write a reply to another thread before coming to this one. So I can now be more articulate.

Given that Super Modes like the one TR PMOP is permanently in are there to give Optimus extra Decepticon-thrashing power, I wanted to see if I could do something like this with him and Galvatron. And quite happily, I could - so enjoy this pic of him about to smash Galvatron into the ground. This was done without external support, by the way. I am enjoying these toys very much.

What do people think of the paint detail I added to Optimus' legs, by the way?

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1911044)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on September 15th, 2017 @ 1:25am CDT

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Rysquad wrote:Now just waiting for a good price or store availability on Nitro.

Me too, damn Grimlocks everywhere.

Kind of a shame they didn't give Grimlock a removable head too. Although that's just a smell letdown, it's not something stupid like repacking AoE Bumblebee instead of DotM Bumblebee... But this isn't the thread for that rant.

a smell letdown...hmmm...do transformers now come with odours too :???:

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1911049)
Posted by Qwan on September 15th, 2017 @ 1:47am CDT

Stuartmaximus wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Rysquad wrote:Now just waiting for a good price or store availability on Nitro.

Me too, damn Grimlocks everywhere.

Kind of a shame they didn't give Grimlock a removable head too. Although that's just a smell letdown, it's not something stupid like repacking AoE Bumblebee instead of DotM Bumblebee... But this isn't the thread for that rant.

a smell letdown...hmmm...do transformers now come with odours too

No they don't, that's the letdown :-P

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1911064)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 15th, 2017 @ 4:51am CDT

Over a week later and I still havent finished applying TR Trypticon's stickers. There's so many and they are so tiny! Plus, they tend to fold in two or even tear in half from the sheet. And finally, the paper taking off with the sticker is annoying as hell.

Still, when the sticker manage to finally get on the figure, they are worth it.

I'll order the Reprolabels for the purple guy as well, once I get my next pay.

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Posted by Va'al on September 15th, 2017 @ 4:56am CDT

Qwan wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Rysquad wrote:Now just waiting for a good price or store availability on Nitro.

Me too, damn Grimlocks everywhere.

Kind of a shame they didn't give Grimlock a removable head too. Although that's just a smell letdown, it's not something stupid like repacking AoE Bumblebee instead of DotM Bumblebee... But this isn't the thread for that rant.

a smell letdown...hmmm...do transformers now come with odours too

No they don't, that's the letdown

You should ask Burn about his Whirl..

Re: Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews (1911068)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 15th, 2017 @ 5:17am CDT

Va'al wrote:
You should ask Burn about his Whirl..

And my previous Leader TLK Megatron. :SICK:

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Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on September 15th, 2017 @ 10:04am CDT

Alright, alright, I fixed the stupid typo.

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Posted by Kurona on September 15th, 2017 @ 4:33pm CDT

... how am I only now just realising that TR Arcee is -technically- a retool of TR Chromedome, harkening back to the original concept for a Headmaster Arcee toy based on G1 Chromedome?

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Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 15th, 2017 @ 5:11pm CDT

Kurona wrote:... how am I only now just realising that TR Arcee is -technically- a retool of TR Chromedome, harkening back to the original concept for a Headmaster Arcee toy based on G1 Chromedome?

Some years ago, a Hasbro executive found my digibash of my concept on a G1 Arcee based on Blurr. The rest is History.

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Posted by Qwan on September 15th, 2017 @ 9:15pm CDT

Kurona wrote:... how am I only now just realising that TR Arcee is -technically- a retool of TR Chromedome, harkening back to the original concept for a Headmaster Arcee toy based on G1 Chromedome?

Oh please don't start this discussion again, now we're gonna have people claiming that Arcee is technically another use of the Dead End mold :lol:

(That is cool though, now that you mention it! I don't know whether it'd have been intentional on the designers' part, but it's fun to find those little connections.)

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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on September 15th, 2017 @ 10:40pm CDT

Kurona wrote:... how am I only now just realising that TR Arcee is -technically- a retool of TR Chromedome, harkening back to the original concept for a Headmaster Arcee toy based on G1 Chromedome?

Technically, Blurr and Chromedome only share minor parts, which is even more disturbing given Arcee was sweet on Chromedome in The Headmasters... :shock:

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Posted by Qwan on September 15th, 2017 @ 10:58pm CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Kurona wrote:... how am I only now just realising that TR Arcee is -technically- a retool of TR Chromedome, harkening back to the original concept for a Headmaster Arcee toy based on G1 Chromedome?

Technically, Blurr and Chromedome only share minor parts, which is even more disturbing given Arcee was sweet on Chromedome in The Headmasters...

"Wow, I love your thighs so much I could just take them for myself!"
...Of all things I've ever thought Arcee could be interpreted as, it never once occurred to me that "violently yandere" could possibly be one of them :shock:

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Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on September 16th, 2017 @ 9:46am CDT

Having to wait 28 years for a proper toy did not exactly have a positive impact on her temperament.

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Posted by Evil Eye on September 16th, 2017 @ 12:36pm CDT

Great, thanks to your talk of Arcee taking other TF's body parts, now I'm imagining Arcee as an expy of the most terrifying female robot ever. GLaDOS eat your heart out.

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Posted by bodrock on September 16th, 2017 @ 8:44pm CDT

I wasn't too happy having to wait almost 3 decades for Arcee, either -- but she certainly was worth the wait.

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Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 16th, 2017 @ 9:12pm CDT

Nobody answered it yet but will TR Arcee remain a Hascon exclusive or will she reach normal retail? Because I ain't paying 100$ for her on EvilBay.

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Posted by bodrock on September 16th, 2017 @ 9:19pm CDT

I think she will make an appearance at the Hasbro Toy Shop, Kanra, but I dunno if that's confirmed....

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Posted by william-james88 on September 16th, 2017 @ 9:21pm CDT

-Kanrabat- wrote:Nobody answered it yet but will TR Arcee remain a Hascon exclusive or will she reach normal retail? Because I ain't paying 100$ for her on EvilBay.

She will be on Hasbro toy shop the 20th of september. While we dont know if she will be ashared exclusive with another retailer, she will never be wide retail like the rest of TR toys.

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Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 16th, 2017 @ 9:45pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Nobody answered it yet but will TR Arcee remain a Hascon exclusive or will she reach normal retail? Because I ain't paying 100$ for her on EvilBay.

She will be on Hasbro toy shop the 20th of september. While we dont know if she will be ashared exclusive with another retailer, she will never be wide retail like the rest of TR toys.

HTS...
Ugh.... It's dosent help having to pay 30$ as the base shipping price. #-o

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Posted by william-james88 on September 16th, 2017 @ 10:09pm CDT

I love Hasbro and I think Joh Warden is a nice guy, but the way he talks is so damn confusing at times that I dont know why people bother asking anything that isn't about how a toy was made.

Here is a snippet of the interview with the brand team and I cant make heads or tails about that last bit, the one with GodBomber. There is cool stuff about magnus Prime though, turns out his is Ginrai in everything but name (for legal reasons).

Speaking of Ultra Magnus, with the box set that has Magnus Prime, is that intended to be a Prime version of Ultra Magnus or a totally new character – the retooled Optimus Prime from the box set? Was he supposed to be Ultra Magnus since his name is Magnus or Optimus Prime?

No he’s not Ultra Magnus. That was when we were going to naming the characters and we couldn’t call him Ginrai, so I wanted to make sure that when we worked with the copyright team, that we chose a name that was accessible to maybe a casual fan? So using a name like Magnus Prime it kind of feels like it’s a step up from Optimus Prime? Our intention was that is essentially Ginrai but without saying it.

Cool, yeah, just a lot of disinformation, especially when it comes to the Wiki because it’s like, they tend to “it’s Magnus Prime put him with Ultra Magnus, put it on his page.”

No it’s not Ultra Magnus. No I would say put him with Optimus Prime, or the Combiner Wars Optimus, like it’s in that zone, or the 2000’s Armada.

So as a followup there definitely was a retool of that earlier base for Optimus Prime, so like he was retooled to combine with the Japanese God Ginrai. Would you recommend that people just order the Japanese God Ginrai, or just hang on? In that set that in Japan had the God Bomber, the one that combines with it. Order the Japanese one or just hold tight?

We’re hoping for later. We’ll get back you.

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