Lunatic Prime wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:So since things have settled down a bit I think I'll post the most recent transmissions rumors.
1. There will be a Voyager Megatron and g2 laser prime released in 2017 that WILL NOT be part of titans return but WILL be headmasters. So this pretty much confirms that titans return will probably only be 4 waves long
2. There will be a new legends class bumblebee released and he will look similar to his devastation game model.
2. We already got one looking like that, but I could imagine a remold of Wheely.
Which one? The only recent legends class bee I can think of is the fall of Cybertron styled one.
That one is Deluxe Class.
The Classics Bumblebee http://www.seibertron.com/transformers-toys/gallery/classics/bumblebee/927/1/ and his repaints http://www.seibertron.com/transformers-toys/gallery/classics/bumblebee/1624/1/, http://www.seibertron.com/transformers-toys/gallery/reveal-the-shield/bumblebee/2278/1/ look like that game model from Devastation. They are also Deluxe class but I don't think it would be necessary to make another one in Legends class.
A remold of Wheely might be nice.
alex1986lunatic wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:alex1986lunatic wrote:Chromedome is definitely a heavy retool of Deadend
Yeah, the arms and the back kibble (front of the car) are definitely the same (transformation). But the rest is very different, so really heavy retool. Or they just borrowed that transformation scheme like they did with CW Brawl's legs from Rook's.
The head/chest piece is also the same. As are the the crotch, thighs, knees and the panels closing around at the lower legs
However, this mold has separate feet.
I think the deluxes are the highlight of the line so far. The voyagers look a bit funny...Leaders are ok. Fort Max is spectacular due to its size. We'll see how it turns out in hand
For one, there's literally no identical parts shared between Dead End and Chromedome:william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:To clarify something from earlier, Chromedome is not a retool of the CW Dead End mold. He is his own unique mold but may have some similar engineering to the Dead End mold, much like how Energon Starscream was engineered similar to G2 Smokescreen.
What is your source? His arms and transformation (with the front end of the car on his back) really make it seem like he is based on the same design as Dead End. There was a decade between G2 smokescreen and energon Starscream while in this case, the Dead End mold is still being used for this year's releases.
Looking at the two, there's just too many similarities for Chromedome to have not started from Dead End (or Streetwise), but probably not past the CAD stage. It looks like every singe piece is different, even the wheels and fists, to say nothing of the parts and joints needed for the new feet, canopy, and torso modifications.Sabrblade wrote:alex1986lunatic wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:alex1986lunatic wrote:Chromedome is definitely a heavy retool of Deadend
Yeah, the arms and the back kibble (front of the car) are definitely the same (transformation). But the rest is very different, so really heavy retool. Or they just borrowed that transformation scheme like they did with CW Brawl's legs from Rook's.
The head/chest piece is also the same. As are the the crotch, thighs, knees and the panels closing around at the lower legs
However, this mold has separate feet.
I think the deluxes are the highlight of the line so far. The voyagers look a bit funny...Leaders are ok. Fort Max is spectacular due to its size. We'll see how it turns out in handFor one, there's literally no identical parts shared between Dead End and Chromedome:william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:To clarify something from earlier, Chromedome is not a retool of the CW Dead End mold. He is his own unique mold but may have some similar engineering to the Dead End mold, much like how Energon Starscream was engineered similar to G2 Smokescreen.
What is your source? His arms and transformation (with the front end of the car on his back) really make it seem like he is based on the same design as Dead End. There was a decade between G2 smokescreen and energon Starscream while in this case, the Dead End mold is still being used for this year's releases.
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There's also the notion that the Dead End mold cannot house a Titan Master figure within it no matter how much of its internals are gutted out to make room for it to fit, and which doing so would in turn eradicate a sizeable amount of the figure's robot mode structuring.
And Chromedome has flip-out feet that the Dead End mold doesn't have room for due to the way that mold transforms. That visible gap in each of Dead End's feet is for the figure's arms to go into in vehicle mode. Put some flip-out feet in those gaps and the arms have no more room to be properly tucked away in vehicle mode.
The most similarities the two molds have are similar altmode kibble protrusions on the shoulders (which themselves are shaped quite differently between the two molds), similar forward-positioned elbow joints, similar joints in general (which are found on many figures), and similar transformation schemes.
As for the G2 Smokescreen/Energon Starscream analogy, while Starscream came out in 2004, the Smokescreen mold was re-released circa 2003/2004 as RiD 2001 Smokejumper, and was again re-released in 2004 in Japan as RobotMasters Smokesniper. And their transformation would again be used for the Generations FOC Seeker mold in 2012-2014.
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Deathsaurus1 wrote:What size class is titan wars Galvatron?
I hope he's leader class.
Voyager
Like I said, it's basically the same case that G2 Smokescreen, Energon Starscream, and FOC Starscream were. Different molds using similar engineering to get the same basic transformation across the board.Randomus wrote:Looking at the two, there's just too many similarities for Chromedome to have not started from Dead End (or Streetwise), but probably not past the CAD stage. It looks like every singe piece is different, even the wheels and fists, to say nothing of the parts and joints needed for the new feet, canopy, and torso modifications.
Do we call this a retool? Do we come up with a new term (e.g. "total retool")? Is it all just semantics anyway? After all, from Springer/Sandstorm to now, we've seen a spectrum that throws the 3-step "New mold-retool-redeco" model out the window.
Deathsaurus1 wrote:Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Deathsaurus1 wrote:What size class is titan wars Galvatron?
I hope he's leader class.
Voyager
Really
Sabrblade wrote:Of course it is. But that doesn't make it the only important one.Ultra Markus wrote:sorry you guys feel that way but G1 is where it all began and is a big part of the franchiseFeeling tired or bored by something isn't the same thing as hating.Ultra Markus wrote:besides you G1 hatersSure, cuz those toys are all worth drooling over.Ultra Markus wrote:have robots in disguise and rescuebots to drool over
Stuartmaximus wrote:seems kinda half @$$ed! the toyfair! granted that we got a lot of goodies on display! but it could've been ever better had Alpha Trion, Astrotrain, Brainstorm ect been there!
ZeroWolf wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:seems kinda half @$$ed! the toyfair! granted that we got a lot of goodies on display! but it could've been ever better had Alpha Trion, Astrotrain, Brainstorm ect been there!
All good things to those who wait
Sabrblade wrote:Like I said, it's basically the same case that G2 Smokescreen, Energon Starscream, and FOC Starscream were. Different molds using similar engineering to get the same basic transformation across the board.Randomus wrote:Looking at the two, there's just too many similarities for Chromedome to have not started from Dead End (or Streetwise), but probably not past the CAD stage. It looks like every singe piece is different, even the wheels and fists, to say nothing of the parts and joints needed for the new feet, canopy, and torso modifications.
Do we call this a retool? Do we come up with a new term (e.g. "total retool")? Is it all just semantics anyway? After all, from Springer/Sandstorm to now, we've seen a spectrum that throws the 3-step "New mold-retool-redeco" model out the window.
Other cases like this would be:
- The G1 Bumblebee, G1 Cliffjumper, and G1 Bumper molds
- The G1 Runabout and G1 Runamuck molds,
- The Alternators Smokescreen and Alternators Meister molds
- The Energon Sledge/Bonecrusher and Cybertron Hardtop molds
- The Prime Cyberverse Legion Knock Out and Prime Beast Hunters Cyberverse Legion Smokescreen molds
- The DOTM Deluxe Roadbuster and AOE Deluxe Lockdown molds
Stuartmaximus wrote:seems kinda half @$$ed! the toyfair! granted that we got a lot of goodies on display! but it could've been ever better had Alpha Trion, Astrotrain, Brainstorm ect been there!
Stuartmaximus wrote:seems kinda half @$$ed! the toyfair! granted that we got a lot of goodies on display! but it could've been ever better had Alpha Trion, Astrotrain, Brainstorm ect been there!
Crosscheck wrote: I also love that Cerebros transforms into a tower like the G1 toy.
Crosscheck wrote: It also looks like he interacts with the leader class figures to make an even bigger city mode. I should be able to have a pretty good sized Autobot City for Devastator to rampage through when this is all said and done.
Sabrblade wrote:For one, there's literally no identical parts shared between Dead End and Chromedome.william-james88 wrote:What is your source? His arms and transformation (with the front end of the car on his back) really make it seem like he is based on the same design as Dead End. There was a decade between G2 smokescreen and energon Starscream while in this case, the Dead End mold is still being used for this year's releases.
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The most similarities the two molds have are similar altmode kibble protrusions on the shoulders (which themselves are shaped quite differently between the two molds), similar forward-positioned elbow joints, similar joints in general (which are found on many figures), and similar transformation schemes.
VioMeTriX wrote:the headmaster gimmick is neat and all, but it is funny as the actual head robots are exactly the same as the ones from the 80's. in this day and age I think we could've gotten a little more articulation.
william-james88 wrote:We are saying pretty much the same thing about the Fort Max sword, mainly that the version that comes with the sword will be limited in number compared to the version that doesnt come with the sowrd.
Stuartmaximus wrote:seems kinda half @$$ed! the toyfair! granted that we got a lot of goodies on display! but it could've been ever better had Alpha Trion, Astrotrain, Brainstorm ect been there!
