Transformers Generations Selects Super Megatron Update

As someone who never watched the Japanese Transformers, what would be a good start for me to watch so I can learn about King Poseidon and Super Megatron. I only know of Overlord because of IDW. And just reading entries on TFWiki ain't the same.

For King Posideon, you'll want to watch Super God Masterforce though it's a fair few episodes before King Posideon is introduced in full. It's also only Turtler who has any autonomy in the show (he never uses his robot mode either) all the rest of the Seacons are drones that are mass produced. None of them use robot modes either.

As for Super Megatron, there is nothing to watch as Battlestars was never animated, with its story told through text and a short Manga. So Tfwiki is your best bet

ZeroWolf wrote:For King Posideon, you'll want to watch Super God Masterforce though it's a fair few episodes before King Posideon is introduced in full. It's also only Turtler who has any autonomy in the show (he never uses his robot mode either) all the rest of the Seacons are drones that are mass produced. None of them use robot modes either.

As for Super Megatron, there is nothing to watch as Battlestars was never animated, with its story told through text and a short Manga. So Tfwiki is your best bet

Thank you!!!

aronjlove wrote:As someone who never watched the Japanese Transformers, what would be a good start for me to watch so I can learn about King Poseidon and Super Megatron. I only know of Overlord because of IDW. And just reading entries on TFWiki ain't the same.

King Poseidon was in the Super-God Masterforce cartoon, but not so much as an actual character since his limb components were mass-produced mindless drones who never transformed into robot modes and his torso component, Turtler, also never transformed out of turtle mode and had very little personality of his own. Basically, King Poseidon was less of an actual character and more of a living weapon of mass destruction who would show up whenever the Decepticons of that show needed a powerful trump card against the Autobots. Though, Turtler/King Poseidon did have one personality trait: Evil jerk. He relished inflicting pain on his opponents and causing destruction in general.

Super Megatron, however, never appeared in any animated media. The series he originated from, Return of Convoy, was a print-only series whose storyline was told in magazine story pages that were very sparse on actual story content, instead mostly just summarizing specific events in a broad sense. The series did, however, get one chapter of manga, which told a more fleshed out story, but was just basically a simple tale of Super Megatron trying to steal some energy with Star Convoy and the Battlestars fighting him to stop him.

Hoping he's leader scale to with g1/selects star convoy but doubting it. Looking forward to the reveal even if I might skip this figure.

Yes! Yes! YES! I was so afraid this idea was going to be scrapped which is weird coming from someone who skipped Star Convoy but, whatever, I just really dig the Super Megatron design.

blackeyedprime wrote:Hoping he's leader scale to with g1/selects star convoy but doubting it. Looking forward to the reveal even if I might skip this figure.

The TR Galvatron mold is a Voyager.

Sabrblade wrote:

aronjlove wrote:As someone who never watched the Japanese Transformers, what would be a good start for me to watch so I can learn about King Poseidon and Super Megatron. I only know of Overlord because of IDW. And just reading entries on TFWiki ain't the same.

King Poseidon was in the Super-God Masterforce cartoon, but not so much as an actual character since his limb components were mass-produced mindless drones who never transformed into robot modes and his torso component, Turtler, also never transformed out of turtle mode and had very little personality of his own. Basically, King Poseidon was less of an actual character and more of a living weapon of mass destruction who would show up whenever the Decepticons of that show needed a powerful trump card against the Autobots. Though, Turtler/King Poseidon did have one personality trait: Evil jerk. He relished inflicting pain on his opponents and causing destruction in general.

Super Megatron, however, never appeared in any animated media. The series he originated from, Return of Convoy, was a print-only series whose storyline was told in magazine story pages that were very sparse on actual story content, instead mostly just summarizing specific events in a broad sense. The series did, however, get one chapter of manga, which told a more fleshed out story, but was just basically a simple tale of Super Megatron trying to steal some energy with Star Convoy and the Battlestars fighting him to stop him.

Thank you! Just watched the intro to Master Force on Youtube and gonna try to find the rest.

aronjlove wrote:Thank you! Just watched the intro to Master Force on Youtube and gonna try to find the rest.

Here you go.

Sabrblade wrote:

aronjlove wrote:Thank you! Just watched the intro to Master Force on Youtube and gonna try to find the rest.

Here you go.

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On the one hand, that's awesome that we're seeing Super Megatron, but on the other, I'm still waiting for Takara to officially reveal anything regarding Armada Prime since the last we heard was from someone at the booth, not Takara themselves

Now its just me but I think on some level we should appreciate the original Super Megatron concept art a bit more: as far as I can tell, it started the now very commonplace idea of Megatron-as-an-alien-jet/spaceship seen in Energon, Cybertron, 2007 movie, DOTM, TLK, Animated and Prime. Overall a very common choice of altmode for the 2000 to mid 2010.

aronjlove wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

aronjlove wrote:Thank you! Just watched the intro to Master Force on Youtube and gonna try to find the rest.

Here you go.

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Though, the important epilogue clip show episode at the end of the series is missing, which can instead be watched here.

When I was a kid, we had the Seacons gift set. We got Nautilator seperate and pretty much made him the gun.

Sabrblade wrote:

aronjlove wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

aronjlove wrote:Thank you! Just watched the intro to Master Force on Youtube and gonna try to find the rest.

Here you go.

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Though, the important epilogue clip show episode at the end of the series is missing, which can instead be watched here.

Your rank of "God of Transformers" is very appropriate!

aronjlove wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

aronjlove wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

aronjlove wrote:Thank you! Just watched the intro to Master Force on Youtube and gonna try to find the rest.

Here you go.

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Though, the important epilogue clip show episode at the end of the series is missing, which can instead be watched here.

Your rank of "God of Transformers" is very appropriate!

Post count only. Not my choosing.

Digging this new design. If he is, in fact a Voyager, then that'll be even better for me. He'll fit perfectly with my custom TR Voyager Star Convoy.

Seacons on Pulse- I'm glad for those who couldn't pre-order. I paid more for mine, because Hasbro gave no indication they'd be available again. I wish they'd be more transparent with such things, but such is life.

King Poseidon! (I just feel compelled to yell it every time) as a character has little depth. Like any other combiner, he is just brute force in MF, although he ends up getting beat pretty bad by Ginrai, and even Metalhawk towards the end. But he does have a pretty awesome voice, and one of the best combination sequences in all of Transformers IMHO.

As for Super Megatron, I am really *hoping* the rest of Zone, Return of Convoy, and Operation Combination will be included (I assume) in the 3rd TF Manga volume Viz is releasing later this year.

What Manga exists for those toylines will be included, just don't expect much from them in terms of content. They won't give you the full story.

Know what would be cool with Return of Convoy and Zone getting some love in SELECTS? Somehow, Big Bang getting a figure. Don't know who he'd be a retool of (POTP Rodimus?) but this obscure fella deserves to finally get a toy.

o.supreme wrote:As for Super Megatron, I am really *hoping* the rest of Zone, Return of Convoy, and Operation Combination will be included (I assume) in the 3rd TF Manga volume Viz is releasing later this year.

Volume 3 contains Victory, Zone, and The Battlestars. Operation Combination had no manga.

Sabrblade wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Hoping he's leader scale to with g1/selects star convoy but doubting it. Looking forward to the reveal even if I might skip this figure.

The TR Galvatron mold is a Voyager.

Could be a Studio Series Shockwave situation.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:On the one hand, that's awesome that we're seeing Super Megatron, but on the other, I'm still waiting for Takara to officially reveal anything regarding Armada Prime since the last we heard was from someone at the booth, not Takara themselves

It was just a test to gauge interest. They currently have no plans on doing anything more with him I'm afraid.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Hoping he's leader scale to with g1/selects star convoy but doubting it. Looking forward to the reveal even if I might skip this figure.

The TR Galvatron mold is a Voyager.

Could be a Studio Series Shockwave situation.

Voyager figure with extras to bump it into Leader Class is still a Voyager figure.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:On the one hand, that's awesome that we're seeing Super Megatron, but on the other, I'm still waiting for Takara to officially reveal anything regarding Armada Prime since the last we heard was from someone at the booth, not Takara themselves

It was just a test to gauge interest. They currently have no plans on doing anything more with him I'm afraid.

Not trying to be rude, so I apologize if it comes across that way, but have Takara themselves officially confirmed that? Because I thought it was just a booth attendent that had said they didn't have much info, but that the prototype may have just been to guage interest?

I think complete lack of appearances (even Super Megatron had been hinted at in the Manga that came with Star Convoy and the Seacons.) backs up the theory that Takara had no solid plans for it. I can't see Takara officially announcing that it was to gauge interest, but certainly, evidence (or lack of) does prove it.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:On the one hand, that's awesome that we're seeing Super Megatron, but on the other, I'm still waiting for Takara to officially reveal anything regarding Armada Prime since the last we heard was from someone at the booth, not Takara themselves

It was just a test to gauge interest. They currently have no plans on doing anything more with him I'm afraid.

Not trying to be rude, so I apologize if it comes across that way, but have Takara themselves officially confirmed that? Because I thought it was just a booth attendent that had said they didn't have much info, but that the prototype may have just been to guage interest?

That's what I head, don't know the source other than it had some connection to TakaraTomy. Does explain why we haven't heard anything, or why he hasn't appeared in any media to promote him unlike Super Megatron...

Grabbing my TR Galvatron I got from my nephew for Christmas, from the looks of it he's not that extensive of a retool compared to the Seacons. If anything, he reuses everything from the waist down and the lower arms.

Here's what the Japanese characters say. (Hint- It's not much.)

About a year since the silhouette disclosure

Generation Select Next Item April 2 lifting-

Please wait for the next report!

How funny. I was just thinking yesterday that Super Megatron should've already been released ages ago. But, then suddenly this news popped up today. Nice!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Hoping he's leader scale to with g1/selects star convoy but doubting it. Looking forward to the reveal even if I might skip this figure.

The TR Galvatron mold is a Voyager.

Could be a Studio Series Shockwave situation.

Voyager figure with extras to bump it into Leader Class is still a Voyager figure.

He's nevertheless larger than the Voyager he shares parts with.

ZeroWolf wrote:What Manga exists for those toylines will be included, just don't expect much from them in terms of content. They won't give you the full story.

What else is there to say about Super Megatron? Other than essentially Bad fan fiction...

I was hoping he'd be a leader, considering Star Convoy, but it definitely looks like a retool of TR Galvatron.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:What Manga exists for those toylines will be included, just don't expect much from them in terms of content. They won't give you the full story.

What else is there to say about Super Megatron? Other than essentially Bad fan fiction...

Care to elaborate?

Here's a more useful answer: Super Megatron is Galvatron after his frozen presumed dead (Thanks to shenanigans in The Headmasters) butt got thawed out by Dark Nova and then simultaneously reverted to Megatron while being further upgraded.

Super Megatron is the design inspiration for Animated Megatron. His robot mode is heavily based on Super Megatron, his Cybertronian altmode (in its real form from the show, not the idiotic completely-wrong toy) is essentially a somewhat-tweaked version of Super Megatron's altmode, and his Earth altmode is a helicopter reimagining of it.

Just got my turtler and gulf, and they are so nice

Gulf is big and heavy thanks to the giant new fish face he got; and someone must've worked some magic at the factories, because the gestalts thighs are so tight, he could probably handle any pose;

Super megatron looks cool from here, that is a chonky cannon

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:What Manga exists for those toylines will be included, just don't expect much from them in terms of content. They won't give you the full story.

What else is there to say about Super Megatron? Other than essentially Bad fan fiction...

Care to elaborate?

He is bad fan fiction in the same vein as the insulting trash that was IDW's Transformers: Deviations IE A sad attempt to reset the changes made by The Movie, by some who just can't accept change. Even the televised seasons of the Takara series moved far beyond Prime and Megatron. Which should be applauded, given how things have stagnated since.

Super Megatron from TR Galvatron, huh?

A part of me really wants to be all over this, but I guess my feelings about the character have changed after there have been so many different versions of G1 Megatron out already. But it really is a great character choice. Oldschool. Kind of obscure. And it goes with Star Convoy, even if it's way too small to present a credible threat.

Give me Guiltar. Someone made a very convincing custom of him by smashing together Siege Megatron and Prime. With a few remoulds it could work even better. I'd buy that for a dollar!

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:What Manga exists for those toylines will be included, just don't expect much from them in terms of content. They won't give you the full story.

What else is there to say about Super Megatron? Other than essentially Bad fan fiction...

Care to elaborate?

He is bad fan fiction in the same vein as the insulting trash that was IDW's Transformers: Deviations IE A sad attempt to reset the changes made by The Movie, by some who just can't accept change. Even the televised seasons of the Takara series moved far beyond Prime and Megatron. Which should be applauded, given how things have stagnated since.

Stagnated...for you.

FWIW, I agree with you on Deviations. Total fanfic. Bad fanfic.

Stagnated for everyone that wants New Transformers again. Something beyond G1.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:What Manga exists for those toylines will be included, just don't expect much from them in terms of content. They won't give you the full story.

What else is there to say about Super Megatron? Other than essentially Bad fan fiction...

Care to elaborate?

He is bad fan fiction in the same vein as the insulting trash that was IDW's Transformers: Deviations IE A sad attempt to reset the changes made by The Movie, by some who just can't accept change.

You call it "a sad attempt to reset", I call it A. A followup of the plot bunny left by The Headmasters (since the idea of Galvatron actually perishing from his plunge into the Arctic sea is laughable) and B. Dark Nova wanting his servant to have a body free of Unicron's influence. It's no worse than some of the revivals from the Marvel comics (not that that's saying much).
You want a stupid reversion, I'll give you a stupid reversion: the way Classic Pretender Bumblebee was integrated into the Marvel storyline. Which is literally "Ratchet turns Goldbug back into Bumblebee in the process because he liked him better as Bumblebee".

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Even the televised seasons of the Takara series moved far beyond Prime and Megatron. Which should be applauded

No it shouldn't, at least not as it applies to Optimus Prime. Because the way it "moved beyond" him is almost as stupid as "Afterdeath".

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Stagnated for everyone that wants New Transformers again. Something beyond G1.

The movieverse was giving us that, at least before Travis Knight went ruined it. IDW was in many ways G1INO. The Unicron Trilogy was different, Animated was different, Prime was different.

And who's to say what comes after Cyberverse.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Stagnated for everyone that wants New Transformers again. Something beyond G1.

Boo hoo.

You mean how headmasters quickly killed Prime off again just to sell Fortress Maximus as the new Autobot leader... Then in Masterforce brought in God Ginrai as bot leader etc etc.

I'm okay with that as I wouldn't have brought Prime back anyway. I mean it was only backlash that forced hasbro's hand anyway. Though if you think of it the other way. The only reason we got Ginrai as the leader in Masterforce was because the toy of Powermaster Prime existed, and that only existed because they chose to bring Prime back.

ZeroWolf wrote:You mean how headmasters quickly killed Prime off again just to sell Fortress Maximus as the new Autobot leader

Yes. How it quickly killed him off again in a lame way because he didn't have a toy out anymore. And also how it then invalidated that sacrifice a scant few episodes later by blowing up Cybertron.

The Headmasters is full of stupid.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Stagnated for everyone that wants New Transformers again. Something beyond G1.

Dude, were you even alive when Return of Convoy happened?

And if so, were you even aware of it at the time? Like did you actually live in Japan back then?

If "No" to either, you're getting worked up over something from 29 years ago that had zero relevance to you at the time. Let it go.

The thing with Super Megatron is that while, yes, he is 'a G1 Megatron' he's a design which never got made into a toy. So that's a tad bit different than yet-another-G1-remake-with-elbows-this-time. This is, toy-wise, a brand new design. One which has existed in the lore and illustrations but never got made as a physical model, yet alone a transforming toy. Beside, SELECTS is where we get the weird retools.

I'd actually be very much in favor of more Unicron Trilogy designs as the major releases of a Generations line. But SELECTS? Yeah sure why not, its the perfect place for us weirdoes who like obscure design from a crummy era of Transformers nobody cares about and we just pretend we do because we're hipsters who are suckers for a design that make us go 'Hey, that looks neat'.

I'd rather have the resurrection of Animated designs we got cheated of, than more Unicron Trilogy remakes that are pale imitations despite sometimes having improved articulation.

But I would prefer Generations to mainly concentrate on finishing the G1 upgrades first. Once those are finally done with...

Look, I'd love to see Animated stuff too but I'm resigned to the fact that Animated is never coming back and neither are toys in that style.

If Animated figures are ever offered again, I hope they keep the aesthetics, it's what made them stand out. I know a lot of people complained about the proportions of the bodies, but I liked how they looked. The only way I want to see Animated again, is if they don't attempt to 'update' them. Because it wouldn't be an update, it would be a cheap imitation.

Speaking of Animated, what are the chances of us getting a Slipstream from ER Starscream? Given her prominence (I assume, haven't watched it yet) in Cyberverse, I think she might make the jump to Generations, but I can't see her getting a retail release until maybe after the third part of WFC. I think it might be kind of fun to see her in SELECTS though

o.supreme wrote:Seacons on Pulse- I'm glad for those who couldn't pre-order. I paid more for mine, because Hasbro gave no indication they'd be available again. I wish they'd be more transparent with such things, but such is life.

Same. Especially since I wound up preordering my stuff after most places had sold out of the first four, and the only places left were shipping from China, meaning I paid about forty dollars just in shipping from one place and about twenty-five in shipping from another... Ouch.

Does anyone know if this is possible? (without having to modify any of the characters)

Just realised that the head is Overbite's, not Turtler's

transformers_va wrote:Does anyone know if this is possible? (without having to modify any of the characters)

Just realised that the head is Overbite's, not Turtler's

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Pretty sure it is, I was on the retweets on that, and I think that connection is something you can do. Some of the tweets about these guys have been with no mods, and they do some great stuff