Transformers Kingdom Wave 3 Preorders on Amazon and Target

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Comment by william-james88 Apr 9, 2021

Dr. Gellar v.2 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Changewinds wrote:Wingfinger definitely looks awesome. I really like the creativity of the fossilizers. As for species, he’s probably a Pterodactyl. Neat that there are some mainline Maximal fossilizers now, so apparently they aren’t all Predacons.

I thought pterodactyls had tails while pteranodons do not. Looks more like a pteranodon, granted the crest isn't that big.

Wingfinger is definitely a pterodactyl (pterodactyl is Latin for 'wing finger', after all), a Pteranodon, and possibly even a female Pteranodon at that (due to the small head crest versus the generally larger crests you see on a typical Pteranodon).

Think of pterodactyl as a common name for all pterosaurs in general. To keep it simple....pterosaurs generally fall into two groups: rhamphorynchoids and pterodactyloids. The rhamphorynchoids are typically the ones with long tails (though not always) and teeth, while most pterodactyloids have short tails, and (in the case of the more advanced\derived species) are toothless.

So far to my knowledge, all Transformer toys\characters with pterosaur alt-modes are pterodactyloids, as pretty much all of them are based on Pteranodon (the exception being Beast Machines Skydive). Although...War for Cybertron Pteraxadon can be made to look much like a rhamphorhynchoid, if the axe handle is pulled out to act as a tail in pterosaur-mode.

But isn't a Pterodactyl also a specific genus with a single species?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pterodactylus

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Comment by ZeldaTheSwordsman Apr 10, 2021

Just saw the stock images for Tracks and I am extremely frustrated.

Because instead of it being an actual improvement over the past figure, it just traded around which aspects were crap; the choices for a CHUG Tracks are: Crappy Flight Mode (2010) and Crappy Needless Faux-parts Robot Mode (2021). This is bullshit, they can do better, they have done better (even w/Generations limits), they should have done better. :BANG_HEAD:

People are right to complain about that backpack, because Hasbro NEEDLESSLY PUT TWO THIRDS OF HIS CAR MODE ON HIS BACK INSTEAD OF JUST THE TAIL, SO THEY COULD GIVE US THE UGLY CHEST.

I'm writing to Hasbro and telling them to retool this bullshit if possible. Or if it's not, to fob it off as a different character to recoup money and try again. I would rather wait years for another shot at Tracks than get this halfassed trainwreck.

Between this bullshit and SS86 Hot Rod's needless faux parts chest, I think somebody on the design team needs to be demoted to copyboy.

Yeah, I know, I'm full of negativity anymore. I'm stressed, and my patience for A. Hasbro doing a poor job when they could have done a good job, and B. Whingy deluded fans calling things that Hasbro actually did do a good job on poor jobs... has worn thin. I'm also being increasingly anxious about whether Kingdom Roddy will be around Galvatron's height like he should be, or whether he's been ruined by the idiotic decision to try and scale his robot mode to the crappy undersize WFC Optimus.

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Comment by Dr. Gellar v.2 Apr 10, 2021

william-james88 wrote:
Dr. Gellar v.2 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Changewinds wrote:Wingfinger definitely looks awesome. I really like the creativity of the fossilizers. As for species, he’s probably a Pterodactyl. Neat that there are some mainline Maximal fossilizers now, so apparently they aren’t all Predacons.

I thought pterodactyls had tails while pteranodons do not. Looks more like a pteranodon, granted the crest isn't that big.

Wingfinger is definitely a pterodactyl (pterodactyl is Latin for 'wing finger', after all), a Pteranodon, and possibly even a female Pteranodon at that (due to the small head crest versus the generally larger crests you see on a typical Pteranodon).

Think of pterodactyl as a common name for all pterosaurs in general. To keep it simple....pterosaurs generally fall into two groups: rhamphorynchoids and pterodactyloids. The rhamphorynchoids are typically the ones with long tails (though not always) and teeth, while most pterodactyloids have short tails, and (in the case of the more advanced\derived species) are toothless.

So far to my knowledge, all Transformer toys\characters with pterosaur alt-modes are pterodactyloids, as pretty much all of them are based on Pteranodon (the exception being Beast Machines Skydive). Although...War for Cybertron Pteraxadon can be made to look much like a rhamphorhynchoid, if the axe handle is pulled out to act as a tail in pterosaur-mode.

But isn't a Pterodactyl also a specific genus with a single species?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pterodactylus

Pterodactylus (listed there in the Wikipedia URL) is indeed a genus of pterosaur (with one generally accepted species - Pterodactylus antiquus). However, pterodactyl is not a specific genus...but rather a common name used these days that refers to all pterosaurs (notice pterodactyl is spelled with a lower case p, while Pterodactylus is spelled with an upper case P).

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Comment by Dr. Gellar v.2 Apr 10, 2021

Rtron wrote:
Dr. Gellar v.2 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Changewinds wrote:Wingfinger definitely looks awesome. I really like the creativity of the fossilizers. As for species, he’s probably a Pterodactyl. Neat that there are some mainline Maximal fossilizers now, so apparently they aren’t all Predacons.

I thought pterodactyls had tails while pteranodons do not. Looks more like a pteranodon, granted the crest isn't that big.

Wingfinger is definitely a pterodactyl (pterodactyl is Latin for 'wing finger', after all), a Pteranodon, and possibly even a female Pteranodon at that (due to the small head crest versus the generally larger crests you see on a typical Pteranodon).

Think of pterodactyl as a common name for all pterosaurs in general. To keep it simple....pterosaurs generally fall into two groups: rhamphorynchoids and pterodactyloids. The rhamphorynchoids are typically the ones with long tails (though not always) and teeth, while most pterodactyloids have short tails, and (in the case of the more advanced\derived species) are toothless.

So far to my knowledge, all Transformer toys\characters with pterosaur alt-modes are pterodactyloids, as pretty much all of them are based on Pteranodon (the exception being Beast Machines Skydive). Although...War for Cybertron Pteraxadon can be made to look much like a rhamphorhynchoid, if the axe handle is pulled out to act as a tail in pterosaur-mode.

Love this detailed alt-mode explanations, thanks

My pleasure...

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Comment by Changewinds Apr 10, 2021

william-james88 wrote:
Changewinds wrote:Wingfinger definitely looks awesome. I really like the creativity of the fossilizers. As for species, he’s probably a Pterodactyl. Neat that there are some mainline Maximal fossilizers now, so apparently they aren’t all Predacons.

I thought pterodactyls had tails while pteranodons do not. Looks more like a pteranodon, granted the crest isn't that big.

I just meant a Pteradactyl in general, rather than a specific one like QuetzalcoatlUs. Doing a bit more searching, the short crest seems to point to a Pteranodon longiceps female? Except for that odd bone spur. Can’t remember if they said Wingfinger was male or female.

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Comment by Sabrblade Apr 10, 2021

That is not brown. That is the color of charcoal or tar.

Rhinox is supposed to be caramel brown.

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Comment by AcademyofDrX Apr 10, 2021

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Just saw the stock images for Tracks and I am extremely frustrated.

Because instead of it being an actual improvement over the past figure, it just traded around which aspects were crap; the choices for a CHUG Tracks are: Crappy Flight Mode (2010) and Crappy Needless Faux-parts Robot Mode (2021). This is bullshit, they can do better, they have done better (even w/Generations limits), they should have done better. People are right to complain about that backpack, because Hasbro NEEDLESSLY PUT TWO THIRDS OF HIS CAR MODE ON HIS BACK INSTEAD OF JUST THE TAIL, SO THEY COULD GIVE US THE UGLY CHEST.

I'm writing to Hasbro and telling them to retool this bullshit if possible. Or if it's not, to fob it off as a different character to recoup money and try again. I would rather wait years for another shot at Tracks than get this halfassed trainwreck.

Between this bullshit and SS86 Hot Rod's needless faux parts chest, I think somebody on the design team needs to be demoted to copyboy.

Yeah, I know, I'm full of negativity anymore. I'm stressed, and my patience for A. Hasbro doing a poor job when they could have done a good job, and B. Whingy deluded fans calling things that Hasbro actually did do a good job on poor jobs... has worn thin. I'm also being increasingly anxious about whether Kingdom Roddy will be around Galvatron's height like he should be, or whether he's been ruined by the idiotic decision to try and scale his robot mode to the crappy undersize WFC Optimus.

The WfC trilogy has prioritized cartoon accuracy throughout the lines. I'm not saying it's good or bad, but it's a choice. A lot of the things that fans call good or bad boil down to personal preference.

If Rodimus' height being a quarter inch one way or the other was causing me anxiety, I don't think I'd enjoy collecting toys very much. Hasbro's whims are out of our control, individually if not collectively.

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Comment by R_Puffs Apr 10, 2021

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Just saw the stock images for Tracks and I am extremely frustrated.

Because instead of it being an actual improvement over the past figure, it just traded around which aspects were crap; the choices for a CHUG Tracks are: Crappy Flight Mode (2010) and Crappy Needless Faux-parts Robot Mode (2021). This is bullshit, they can do better, they have done better (even w/Generations limits), they should have done better. People are right to complain about that backpack, because Hasbro NEEDLESSLY PUT TWO THIRDS OF HIS CAR MODE ON HIS BACK INSTEAD OF JUST THE TAIL, SO THEY COULD GIVE US THE UGLY CHEST.

I'm writing to Hasbro and telling them to retool this bullshit if possible. Or if it's not, to fob it off as a different character to recoup money and try again. I would rather wait years for another shot at Tracks than get this halfassed trainwreck.

Between this bullshit and SS86 Hot Rod's needless faux parts chest, I think somebody on the design team needs to be demoted to copyboy.

Yeah, I know, I'm full of negativity anymore. I'm stressed, and my patience for A. Hasbro doing a poor job when they could have done a good job, and B. Whingy deluded fans calling things that Hasbro actually did do a good job on poor jobs... has worn thin. I'm also being increasingly anxious about whether Kingdom Roddy will be around Galvatron's height like he should be, or whether he's been ruined by the idiotic decision to try and scale his robot mode to the crappy undersize WFC Optimus.

I highly doubt that one fan emailing Hasbro about a personal complaint for a toy so far into production will result in them retooling it. Honestly delusional. Also, toy collecting is supposed to be fun, you shouldn't be anxious and "worn thin" about two toys scaling with each other. That's when a hobby becomes an unhealthy obsession.

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Comment by Munkky Apr 10, 2021

Sabrblade wrote:

This is the first time I've noticed the little brown flecks across Rhinox's legs and shoulders, that's actually a nice bit of detail, it kind of makes the rhino look like it's been rolling in mud.

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Comment by Emerje Apr 10, 2021

Man, everyone has had so much to say today, I thought most people would have gotten most of the talk out of their system a few days ago. That was a lot of reading.

alekese wrote:Having actually kept an eye on some of the more "reputable"/reliable leakers, it lowkey irks me when people out of the loop accuse them of unreliability for not knowing everything in advance. The specific leaker who provided both the info on 2022 tarantulas and now on terrorsaur's description has said on multiple occasions both before and after surprises like this that their primary source of information only has consistent access to mainline/mass retail, with the occasional selects figure. They very specifically do not have reliable info on retailer exclusives and sublines like galactic odyssey or the upcoming golden disc line terrorsaur is part of. In fact, iirc, in the window between the kingdom full mass retail lineup leak and when '22 info started coming in, they specifically brought up the fact that they didn't have access to store exclusives to say not to give up hope on tarantulas/bw inferno/terrorsaur just yet.

This is good to know and probably should have been mentioned sooner (apologies if it has been, I don't remember seeing it before). The thing is, many of us here don't visit other forums and those leakers don't post here so we rely on people like you and Nemesis Primal to share what you know. For us it's second hand information so instead of being "irked" just be patient, set us straight and tell us what you know.

o.supreme wrote:Ok they said 5pm EST(2pm my time). I just hope that special pack is available. That kind of sucks, there never done this before. But I guess free shipping wasn't a big enough draw for premium membership

They've actually been doing this for a while, at least since last Fall/early Winter.

Spider5800 wrote:The robot mode is fine, but his backpack appears to be sticking up WAY over his head. Sort of consistent with his G1 toy, I suppose, but not really with how he looks in other media. It just makes the backpack way more obvious. It looks bad.

This looks bad, I don't like the stack of guns and them being turned like a turret.

But this looks fine to me, though I would like a shot from the back to see how much visible car is on the back.

william-james88 wrote:
jtanimator wrote:Can somebody tell me why hasbro needed to make a massive crowdfunding platform just to back one of the most famous transformers in history for $550, when they just released an electronic Optimus prime for $700?

Easy answer: the electronic optimus prime is a licensed toy not made by hasbro, so they didn't actually spend a thing on it. 0 risk for them.

Should also be pointed out that this is a "team-up" rather than a straight license which is the only way Hasbro will allow an official third party to make a transforming figure at any price. If I remember right the Last time that happened was the Soundwave tablet they made with Xiaomi.

Sabrblade wrote:That is not brown. That is the color of charcoal or tar.

Rhinox is supposed to be caramel brown.

I could have sworn, and maybe I'm remembering this entirely wrong, that someone said we'd be getting a gray Rhinox at retail and a brown one as an exclusive.

This looks bad to me:

Wheeljack isn't a particularly tall figure and he's almost as tall as Teletraan. This just reaffirms my belief that it only scales properly to Core figures.

Anyway, I ordered everything but the Robosen Optimus Prime and the Ark. Ordered SG Blurr and Tricranius off Pulse and the rest off Target for the lower Deluxe MSRP and 5% off (mostly eliminating sales tax). I'll get the Ark off Amazon, I've got about $45 in gift cards that I'll be applying to really drive the price down.

Since all of the Fossilizers get colorful repaints I really hope Wingfinger's repaint is blue since he already has a vague resemblance to IDW Whirl.

Emerje

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Comment by noctorro Apr 10, 2021

Looking cool all, at first I thought Rhinox was a re-release from that Generation 30 boi but he's a completely new dude right? The 30's is good but flappy in the joints, I have him.
This Rhinox looks more solid, I will get this one and probz replace the 30 one.

Man, aren't you guys getting sick of the word pre-order?
I just want to buy a Transformer in the store or in one of my favorite online shops in Holland and then have the mailguy deliver the package the day or 2 days after.
And I'm getting huge scalper vibes from over use of the word pre-order.

Anyone member the idiots putting up Giga Watt for 700 dollard on ebay? I trolled a few with showing interest. I relaxingly bought a Gigawatt from my local import shop because he looks like a pirate and he was a bit over the regular deluxe price. No way in Hades I was going to give some silly people 700 dollars. The thing wasn't even released, I hope they feel really stupid. But that's offtopic.

Back ontopic:
I will start collecting Legends class again, that Megatron, Optimus and now Soundwave look great!
We already have excellent Seekers, the trio + Acidstorm, no faux chest nonsense. We already have a Legends Shockwave who is excellent. Minibots are great in the Prime Wars Trilogy.

I'm not really feeling the Bone Bots, I will get one or two just to taste it.

And I will get Iacon, those ship thrusters are edged in my soul man.

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Comment by Nemesis Reformatted Apr 10, 2021

Yaaay! Pre-orders are up on Amazon! My Ratchet/Lifeline pre-order is also still up on Amazon, 5 freakin months later.

Anyway, I pre-ordered the Ark from BBTS. Not much else I want. I'll be skipping most of Kingdom & saving a ton of money this year.

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Comment by william-james88 Apr 10, 2021

Dr. Gellar v.2 wrote: (notice pterodactyl is spelled with a lower case p, while Pterodactylus is spelled with an upper case P).

Did you notice the capital P in Hasbro's product description?

Wingfinger toy converts into a Pterodactyl fossil mode in 14 steps. Features wing and lower jaw articulation optimal for flying and roaring poses.

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Comment by Evil Eye Apr 10, 2021

Oh boy, lots to take in here!

The Ark looks great, but I kinda wish he was a more sort of orange-gold colour rather than the yellow. I know the Ark was painted yellow when it was in motion (for all of one episode) but most of the shots of it throughout the cartoon showed it and its interior as more orangey. Also kinda wish the turrets could swivel and elevate/depress their guns, but that's a nitpick. Mainframe is a cool touch as well.

Wingfinger I can't decide if I love or hate. I loved Paleotrex but was disappointed by Ractonite (who I got in just yesterday), and Wingfinger looks...weird. Like, the beast mode doesn't seem quite right; I feel the wingtip bones/swords/bow halves should be much longer. The robot mode meanwhile, it shifts from looking amazing to terrible depending on the photo. I should love it as I really like weird inhuman TFs but somehow it just isn't doing it for me.

Tracks...oof, Tracks looks rough. Fake chest, hollow back with most of the alt mode being worn as a backpack, yikes. A shame as I was looking forwards to a good Tracks. Car mode is nice I'll give them that.

Rhinox looks objectively worse than the T30 figure. Faked details, weirdly proportioned robot mode and the colour doesn't seem quite right.

Tricranium looks pretty nice. I'm not overly fond of Ractonite as a figure, but the kinda "lava monster" colours really sell it.

Rodimus looks incredible, no complaints there.

Galvatron I like a lot. The shoulders apparently being misassembled is a bit lame, but he still looks to be the best Galvatron we've gotten by a country mile.

Scorponok I'm oddly fond of. He's not perfect (the robot mode is a bit...chunky) but the scorpion mode is so good I can let it slide. Colours aside it looks like real scorpion, and that's amazing.

Green Vertebreak is a pass. Half the appeal of the original figure to me is that she looks like an actual fossil. Doing her in lime green doesn't really work. Now if she were done up more like Skellivore or Tricranium as a sort of glowing radioactive thing, that'd be different.

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Comment by AcademyofDrX Apr 10, 2021

noctorro wrote:Man, aren't you guys getting sick of the word pre-order?
I just want to buy a Transformer in the store or in one of my favorite online shops in Holland and then have the mailguy deliver the package the day or 2 days after.
And I'm getting huge scalper vibes from over use of the word pre-order.

I could not disagree more. Planned preorder announcements like these are the most reliable way to know that I don't have to worry about fighting off scalpers. The toy lines that really play into that are exclusive to retailers and drop online with no notice.

There are a lot of factors contributing to arbitrage in the secondary market, but pre-orders aren't one of them.

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Comment by ZeroWolf Apr 10, 2021

Munkky wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:

This is the first time I've noticed the little brown flecks across Rhinox's legs and shoulders, that's actually a nice bit of detail, it kind of makes the rhino look like it's been rolling in mud.

Huh, that is a nice detail, I hadn't noticed it either.

@Sabrblade I guess they went his alt mode colour to make it look more realistic. They could easily redeco later if they wished.

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Comment by GeekyGamer Gal Apr 10, 2021

AcademyofDrX wrote:
noctorro wrote:Man, aren't you guys getting sick of the word pre-order?
I just want to buy a Transformer in the store or in one of my favorite online shops in Holland and then have the mailguy deliver the package the day or 2 days after.
And I'm getting huge scalper vibes from over use of the word pre-order.

I could not disagree more. Planned preorder announcements like these are the most reliable way to know that I don't have to worry about fighting off scalpers. The toy lines that really play into that are exclusive to retailers and drop online with no notice.

There are a lot of factors contributing to arbitrage in the secondary market, but pre-orders aren't one of them.

That and depending on where you live, pre-orders maybe the only way you get these guys. My local stores are still sitting on Kingdom wave ones deluxes, no voyagers or leaders, and I haven't seen any Studio Series 86 guys since I bought the only Jazz I could find. I wind up pre-ordering everything I want because otherwise I never know if I'll ever actually see them in stores, or wind up paying scalper prices online (looking at you Amazon with your arbitrary price jumps due to low stock). Otherwise, yeah the use and over hyped focus on "pre-order" sucks, but I can at least guarantee that I'll be able to get what I want without dragging my husband to all the stores.

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Comment by Emerje Apr 10, 2021

GeekyGamer Gal wrote:Otherwise, yeah the use and over hyped focus on "pre-order" sucks, but I can at least guarantee that I'll be able to get what I want without dragging my husband to all the stores.

Can you though? I've never had a pre-order canceled with Amazon, but most of my Walmart pre-orders get canceled and maybe a third of my Target ones. Pre-ordering definitely improves my chances, but I would never call it a guarantee. I regret not pre-ordering Cyclonus the first time when I had a chance and with him being packed with Rhinox I hope I'll get a second shot. I wasn't able to get a pre-order for Huffer and haven't seen him in stores yet either, but Arcee sure hasn't been hard to find...

Emerje

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Comment by sol magnus Apr 10, 2021

Emerje wrote:
GeekyGamer Gal wrote:Otherwise, yeah the use and over hyped focus on "pre-order" sucks, but I can at least guarantee that I'll be able to get what I want without dragging my husband to all the stores.

Can you though? I've never had a pre-order canceled with Amazon, but most of my Walmart pre-orders get canceled and maybe a third of my Target ones. Pre-ordering definitely improves my chances, but I would never call it a guarantee. I regret not pre-ordering Cyclonus the first time when I had a chance and with him being packed with Rhinox I hope I'll get a second shot. I wasn't able to get a pre-order for Huffer and haven't seen him in stores yet either, but Arcee sure hasn't been hard to find...

Emerje

I actually have an extra Huffer from a preorder I forgot to cancel, so if you need him...

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Comment by GeekyGamer Gal Apr 10, 2021

Emerje wrote:
GeekyGamer Gal wrote:Otherwise, yeah the use and over hyped focus on "pre-order" sucks, but I can at least guarantee that I'll be able to get what I want without dragging my husband to all the stores.

Can you though? I've never had a pre-order canceled with Amazon, but most of my Walmart pre-orders get canceled and maybe a third of my Target ones. Pre-ordering definitely improves my chances, but I would never call it a guarantee. I regret not pre-ordering Cyclonus the first time when I had a chance and with him being packed with Rhinox I hope I'll get a second shot. I wasn't able to get a pre-order for Huffer and haven't seen him in stores yet either, but Arcee sure hasn't been hard to find...

Emerje

I mainly stick to Pulse or Amazon, since I got burned by both Target and Walmart, and between the two I frequently either get my pre-order early or I start racking up price matched discounts that occasionally get me in trouble because I then loose the free shipping. I also try to pre-order either the day that they open, or the next day just to get into the pool.

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