Transformers Siege Jetfire found in Toysrus Stores in Canada

The Siege leader Optimus is also on amazon for the same price.

according to my local walmart, both the siege and studio series leader class figures are marked as discontinued and on clearance pricing. I find that particularly funny since that store has never received/stocked a single case of leaders of either line.

Immortal Starscream wrote:according to my local walmart, both the siege and studio series leader class figures are marked as discontinued and on clearance pricing. I find that particularly funny since that store has never received/stocked a single case of leaders of either line.

That's very odd. I'll have to check the Wal-Mart's near me, but it seems weird to discontinue a line that they'll still be carrying for several months and getting new product for

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I'll have to check the Wal-Mart's near me, but it seems weird to discontinue a line that they'll still be carrying for several months and getting new product for

It's not unprecedented...back when the lines were 18 months or 2 years they would clearance things out part way through to make room for newer waves. The only problem is, they would seemingly get a ton of repack waves as opposed to actual new product. Thus the change to a 12 month line, and a limitation on repack waves. Unfortunately...now we are kind of going into uncharted territory with Siege getting a 5th wave making it more of a 15 month line as opposed to a 12 month one, and pushing *Armageddon* (just calling it that for now until Hasbro makes an official announcement) off into spring of 2020, as opposed to Q1 2020.

I think I prefer the Chromia mold as Nightbird. She looks loads better than the Legends figure in my eyes too. I really like this, and this may confirm that the listings we had may in fact be genuine.

o.supreme wrote:Thus the change to a 12 month line, and a limitation on repack waves. Unfortunately...now we are kind of going into uncharted territory with Siege getting a 5th wave making it more of a 15 month line as opposed to a 12 month one, and pushing *Armageddon* (just calling it that for now until Hasbro makes an official announcement) off into spring of 2020, as opposed to Q1 2020.

Actually, I think Siege will still end up being a 12 month line with Armageddon hitting in early to mid Q1 2020.

Think about how the end of TR and PotP went with the final wave having only 1 new figure and lining up with Christmas. In both of those cases, there really wasn't much new product on the shelves for the largest toy sales potion of the year. Both of those were of the 1 waver per quarter general format, but the reality was waves 2-4 for the calendar year kept creeping earlier and earlier leaving a void at the end of the year, that ended up needing to be filled by the next line's first wave showing up in November.

Now with a 5th wave, they have a wave they can time for the Christmas rush and not have to move up the next line into this year. At least that is my speculation on how/why Hasbro decided on a 5th wave.

I would imagine retailers would like this too. They would not have to change things over for a new line until they are also resetting the toy aisles after the Christmas rush.

Next year will really be the year to see if that works. Some of the reason that waves 2-4 have crept forward within the year was because wave 1 was hitting in November. This 5th wave could easily be a 1 time thing just to let them reset the timing of the waves and new line.

Hmm. I'm not sure on that Nightbird, I might go for it as I have no desire for Chromia and I already have Legends Arcee. But I do think the LG version is perhaps a tiny bit better looking. That said, my headcanon that Nightbird is but one of many similar-looking ninjas (from the Yami no Tori ninja temple on the feudal world of Caminus, along with the Shadowhawks, AKA Energon Divebombs yes I do put too much thought into this sort of thing why do you ask) means there's scope for more than one Nightbird, even as someone that prefers her as a "normal" Transformer rather than a manmade robot.

I think my opinion will be decided on the accessories. If she has some cool ninja weapons I'm in for certain, if not I might be browsing Mandarake for an LG figure.

She looks alright, but I like the Legends version I already have.

They need to make another female TF mould. Seriously. Or even just tweak an older one they already have more substantially as the did for the first Chromia. All the female TFs don't need to share a mould.

I don't like Chromia but I do like the look of that Nightbird. Then again, it's difficult to make those colors look bad.

I know full well that Chromia is NOT the same mold as Moonracer but instead they share only the hips, thighs, wheels and basic design. That being said, I'd rather they have used the Moonracer mold again instead of Chromia. Even though they're two different molds, Chromia is held back far too much by following so closely to the Moonracer design. They didn't change enough of the design when making Chromia to make up for it not being able to combine. There's quite a bit more they could have done now that they changed the design to not combine yet not much else was changed. It's almost worse overall since there's nothing you can do with the backpack in robot mode. There's also no way to fan mode the alt mode like you can with Moonracer. Chromia looks better in alt mode and might be slightly better in robot mode but I'd rather have the options and the combining function.

I'll end up getting it even though I already have the LG version.

Tough call, as much as I dislike the looks of that Chromia mold I think this is a more solid toy. But I think I too prefer the Legends toy.