Transformers The Last Knight: Optimus Prime Shadow Spark Figure Video
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Comment by Hellscream9999
Apr 4, 2017
I know the movie figures have always been clever, but, does anyone else feel like has/tak are stepping up their design game lately? Like, with cheetor, inferno, megs, the movie hound, megs and leader megs, they all seem to have really started pushing boundaries with their respective designs, they're amazing to see.
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The movie designs this time around, or at least the new ones, are definitely a step up, as are the other hastak lines at the moment in my opinion
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Apr 4, 2017
Hellscream9999 wrote:I know the movie figures have always been clever, but, does anyone else feel like has/tak are stepping up their design game lately? Like, with cheetor, inferno, megs, the movie hound, megs and leader megs, they all seem to have really started pushing boundaries with their respective designs, they're amazing to see.
The movie designs this time around, or at least the new ones, are definitely a step up, as are the other hastak lines at the moment in my opinion
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MP's, movie line and rid, yes, I've seen nothing that stands out as a step-up in the tr line
Comment by Hellscream9999
Apr 4, 2017
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:I know the movie figures have always been clever, but, does anyone else feel like has/tak are stepping up their design game lately? Like, with cheetor, inferno, megs, the movie hound, megs and leader megs, they all seem to have really started pushing boundaries with their respective designs, they're amazing to see.
The movie designs this time around, or at least the new ones, are definitely a step up, as are the other hastak lines at the moment in my opinion
MP's, movie line and rid, yes, I've seen nothing that stands out as a step-up in the tr line
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Triggerhappy and some other recent deluxes have been big step ups to me.
But the movie line seems to be benefiting teh most
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Apr 4, 2017
Hellscream9999 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:I know the movie figures have always been clever, but, does anyone else feel like has/tak are stepping up their design game lately? Like, with cheetor, inferno, megs, the movie hound, megs and leader megs, they all seem to have really started pushing boundaries with their respective designs, they're amazing to see.
The movie designs this time around, or at least the new ones, are definitely a step up, as are the other hastak lines at the moment in my opinion
MP's, movie line and rid, yes, I've seen nothing that stands out as a step-up in the tr line
Triggerhappy and some other recent deluxes have been big step ups to me.
But the movie line seems to be benefiting teh most
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I would be inclined to agree. The details for the movie toys, MP's and Titans Return have been stellar. I wish they made the RiD toys a bit less hollow and more paint apps though.
Comment by WreckerJack
Apr 4, 2017
Hellscream9999 wrote:I know the movie figures have always been clever, but, does anyone else feel like has/tak are stepping up their design game lately? Like, with cheetor, inferno, megs, the movie hound, megs and leader megs, they all seem to have really started pushing boundaries with their respective designs, they're amazing to see.
I would be inclined to agree. The details for the movie toys, MP's and Titans Return have been stellar. I wish they made the RiD toys a bit less hollow and more paint apps though.
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Comment by Kurona
Apr 4, 2017
Being fair, I think TR's lack of intuition isn't so much a lack of talent on the designer's side; but more that the leading design ethos is basically G1 but also they can do more than move their shoulders now. That doesn't mean there can't be some fantastic design despite that, and we have seen quite a few examples - Triggerhappy, Megatron, Topspin - but it is a huge inhibition. God I miss Thrilling 30.
Regardless, yeah, outside of extreme adherence to G1, there's been some huge steps forward in design recently that don't fail to amaze me and make me step back and wonder how did they do that?
Regardless, yeah, outside of extreme adherence to G1, there's been some huge steps forward in design recently that don't fail to amaze me and make me step back and wonder how did they do that?
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The TR line is giving us some amazing playability with the leader class, a whole new array of triple changers and some knock out transformations at the deluxe class with the likes of Top Spin, Kup, Triggerhappy and Blurr. Its a far cry from the more mundane transformations the Generations line has given us in the past.
Comment by william-james88
Apr 4, 2017
Hellscream9999 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:I know the movie figures have always been clever, but, does anyone else feel like has/tak are stepping up their design game lately? Like, with cheetor, inferno, megs, the movie hound, megs and leader megs, they all seem to have really started pushing boundaries with their respective designs, they're amazing to see.
The movie designs this time around, or at least the new ones, are definitely a step up, as are the other hastak lines at the moment in my opinion
MP's, movie line and rid, yes, I've seen nothing that stands out as a step-up in the tr line
The TR line is giving us some amazing playability with the leader class, a whole new array of triple changers and some knock out transformations at the deluxe class with the likes of Top Spin, Kup, Triggerhappy and Blurr. Its a far cry from the more mundane transformations the Generations line has given us in the past.
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I think its the total opposite to that. The only thing great about thrilling 30 was that the designs were varied but there was no imaginitive transformations like we see here, aside from Skybyte (and as we know, a great transformation can get totally ignored when the rest of the toy isnt great). Quite a few toys in thrilling 30 suffered from the same problem of recreating G1 like Scoop who is as plain as you can get. Jetfire also is pretty much his G1 toy with a similar transformation (less of a bad thing in that case). And you also had the simplest deluxe of the past 5 years: tankor.
But now with the Titans Return line they are giving us characters we know in totally new transformation schemes. Topspin is a perfect example. There is nothing homaging the G1 transformation, its a totally new way to interpret that toy. Kup is the same way too, with the best leg transformation I have ever seen. Blaster too is super cool by reinventing that whole leg area and reinventing the casettes too. Its really cool to see another attempt at other castte bots who share the same alt mode but have completely different transformatons and it works great for the birds and Rewind/Rumble. You also have sharkticon who is nothing like his G1 self. I was even amazed at Kickback who has this whole new abdomen part making him more organic and also hiding the arms in locust mode.
Its just the original headmasters who end up similar to their G1 selves and even then thats not the case for all of em.
All in all, there are far more ingenious transformations in the Titans Return line than there were in the Thrilling 30 line and I am so glad we have that cheap plastic and small deluxe size behind us.
Comment by william-james88
Apr 4, 2017
Kurona wrote:Being fair, I think TR's lack of intuition isn't so much a lack of talent on the designer's side; but more that the leading design ethos is basically G1 but also they can do more than move their shoulders now. That doesn't mean there can't be some fantastic design despite that, and we have seen quite a few examples - Triggerhappy, Megatron, Topspin - but it is a huge inhibition. God I miss Thrilling 30.
I think its the total opposite to that. The only thing great about thrilling 30 was that the designs were varied but there was no imaginitive transformations like we see here, aside from Skybyte (and as we know, a great transformation can get totally ignored when the rest of the toy isnt great). Quite a few toys in thrilling 30 suffered from the same problem of recreating G1 like Scoop who is as plain as you can get. Jetfire also is pretty much his G1 toy with a similar transformation (less of a bad thing in that case). And you also had the simplest deluxe of the past 5 years: tankor.
But now with the Titans Return line they are giving us characters we know in totally new transformation schemes. Topspin is a perfect example. There is nothing homaging the G1 transformation, its a totally new way to interpret that toy. Kup is the same way too, with the best leg transformation I have ever seen. Blaster too is super cool by reinventing that whole leg area and reinventing the casettes too. Its really cool to see another attempt at other castte bots who share the same alt mode but have completely different transformatons and it works great for the birds and Rewind/Rumble. You also have sharkticon who is nothing like his G1 self. I was even amazed at Kickback who has this whole new abdomen part making him more organic and also hiding the arms in locust mode.
Its just the original headmasters who end up similar to their G1 selves and even then thats not the case for all of em.
All in all, there are far more ingenious transformations in the Titans Return line than there were in the Thrilling 30 line and I am so glad we have that cheap plastic and small deluxe size behind us.
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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Apr 4, 2017
..and then you look at the difference between Age of Extinction and The Last Knight. So much better really. Finally got Hound right, much better Transformations, and what appears to be a superior leader mold!
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I thought they had plenty of clever ideas for the dinobots (no the leader one's though) and hound turning inside out to transform was plenty cool, but these new ones are leagues beyond everything right now
Comment by Hellscream9999
Apr 4, 2017
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:..and then you look at the difference between Age of Extinction and The Last Knight. So much better really. Finally got Hound right, much better Transformations, and what appears to be a superior leader mold!
I thought they had plenty of clever ideas for the dinobots (no the leader one's though) and hound turning inside out to transform was plenty cool, but these new ones are leagues beyond everything right now
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Comment by ScottyP
Apr 5, 2017
Local store had these out but their computers had a hard coded street date of 4/26 that they couldn't override. Store manager pulled them all out of the Hasbro PDP display they'd been sent in on. Very likely the stores have no clue these are street dated until they try to sell them, given how those displays are typically sent to retailers.william-james88 wrote:One Step Turbo Changers Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Barricade, and Hound (the last two being new molds) have been found at Gamesto for $11.99. The area of the US has not been confirmed yet but these were found by TFW2005 user blackwidow1972. That makes it yet another store breaking the street date like Navy Exchange. Let us know if you find other stores breaking the street date of April 24th 2017.
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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Apr 5, 2017
Our resident reviewer Chuckdawg1999 has sent us a new review to check out, this time for the new legion class Barricade! Barricade is a repaint of the Prime Smokescreen mold, and will be available along with Bumblebee, Optimus Prime, and Grimlock in the wave 1 legion figures. Check out the review below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!
chuckdawg1999 wrote:It'a new movie time, and with a new movie comes a plethora of new toys, so of course, the first figure I review is a repaint from the Transformers Prime series. Legion Barricade is a repaint of Legion Class Prowl from TF: Prime, who in turn was a repaint/retool of the previous legion figure Smokescreen. I feel the choice of molds is a wink/nod to the TFCC subscription service Barricade figure who was made from the Deluxe Prime Smokescreen mold. If you never experienced the mold it's definitely worth a pick up as the transformation is fun.
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Comment by Deadput
Apr 5, 2017
Oh hey a Transformers Prime Barricade that isn't a club exclusive! 
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Good point there.
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Apr 5, 2017
Deadput wrote:Oh hey a Transformers Prime Barricade that isn't a club exclusive!
Good point there.
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Comment by RAR
Apr 6, 2017
I'm going to have him pal around with Knock Out when I get him.
I'm still puzzled about their reluctance to repaint 2 of the Predacon/Terrorcon Legions as we could have had several repaints of that by now if they'd just make more of the other arm and the Torso as well as the one arm and one leg they keep on making we could have had some sort of Monster-Autobot combiner out of those moulds too as well as some weird cousin of the Firecons.
I do wonder what goes on inside Hasbro's heads sometime - as if I was planning on what to do for the 2017 line - I certainly wouldn't be using repaints in the main line - in box sets / gift sets sure - but not in the main line.
I suppose I should be grateful that they are doing a Crosshairs that is close enough to AOE to double up for that - but they really ought to be making up for all they missed in AOE by not having Legions for that line and also addressing the 10th Anniversary as well - perhaps with a new 1970's Bumblebee as well as AOE's two Bumblebee designs too & Stinger. I can understand their reluctance to go anywhere near Ferrari - but they could even make Mirage/Dino especially if they left the name as Mirage and made up a car mode or used a new one from one of the licensed manufacturers they have at the moment same for stinger.
It would have been nice to use the Legends size as a faux stand in for Cyberverse Commander class - though perhaps the 2.5mm hand size of Cyberverse commander is reason enough to just make that class again.
Just think of all the fun things they can make in that size. Perhaps they can do something like that and brand it for the Bumblebee Movie or Transformers 6. I think the relatively small cast of characters likely to be in the Bee Movie makes it ideal for some sort of big retrospective Movie line.
I'm still puzzled about their reluctance to repaint 2 of the Predacon/Terrorcon Legions as we could have had several repaints of that by now if they'd just make more of the other arm and the Torso as well as the one arm and one leg they keep on making we could have had some sort of Monster-Autobot combiner out of those moulds too as well as some weird cousin of the Firecons.
I do wonder what goes on inside Hasbro's heads sometime - as if I was planning on what to do for the 2017 line - I certainly wouldn't be using repaints in the main line - in box sets / gift sets sure - but not in the main line.
I suppose I should be grateful that they are doing a Crosshairs that is close enough to AOE to double up for that - but they really ought to be making up for all they missed in AOE by not having Legions for that line and also addressing the 10th Anniversary as well - perhaps with a new 1970's Bumblebee as well as AOE's two Bumblebee designs too & Stinger. I can understand their reluctance to go anywhere near Ferrari - but they could even make Mirage/Dino especially if they left the name as Mirage and made up a car mode or used a new one from one of the licensed manufacturers they have at the moment same for stinger.
It would have been nice to use the Legends size as a faux stand in for Cyberverse Commander class - though perhaps the 2.5mm hand size of Cyberverse commander is reason enough to just make that class again.
Just think of all the fun things they can make in that size. Perhaps they can do something like that and brand it for the Bumblebee Movie or Transformers 6. I think the relatively small cast of characters likely to be in the Bee Movie makes it ideal for some sort of big retrospective Movie line.
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Comment by Tresob
Apr 6, 2017
I'm just a tad confused why they didn't just re-release the earlier Legion Barricade...
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I can think of two reasons:
1) The robot mode design is obsolete, now they want something more streamlined like the current model.
2) Hasbro does not have the proper license. The earlier Legion is a licensed Saleen S281, but for this movie Barricade has traded it in for a Ford Mustang. As Ford is a competitor of main license supplier General Motors, all his toys have to take liberties with the design to the point other toys have to be used as a stand-in. It's happened before with Dino/Mirage, who took the form of RotF Sideways, and Stinger who looks like Prime Knockout for their Legion Class releases.
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Apr 7, 2017
Tresob wrote:I'm just a tad confused why they didn't just re-release the earlier Legion Barricade...
I can think of two reasons:
1) The robot mode design is obsolete, now they want something more streamlined like the current model.
2) Hasbro does not have the proper license. The earlier Legion is a licensed Saleen S281, but for this movie Barricade has traded it in for a Ford Mustang. As Ford is a competitor of main license supplier General Motors, all his toys have to take liberties with the design to the point other toys have to be used as a stand-in. It's happened before with Dino/Mirage, who took the form of RotF Sideways, and Stinger who looks like Prime Knockout for their Legion Class releases.
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Comment by william-james88
Apr 7, 2017
That April 24th street date for The Last Knight toys is being broken left right and centre. The latest offender is Spielzeug-Paradies Wagner in downtown Bochum, Germany, which has Wave 1 of the One-Step Turbo Changers with Barricade, Hound and Bumblebee and Wave 1 of the Premiere Edition Deluxes with Bumblebee, Slash, Barricade and Berserker. This was found by TFW user Nevermore.
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Comment by ScottyP
Apr 7, 2017
If it's even in effect for Germany, which it may not be.william-james88 wrote:That April 24th street date for The Last Knight toys is being broken left right and centre.
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The user who submitted this is attuned with the market and said that the street date was applicable:
Comment by william-james88
Apr 7, 2017
ScottyP wrote:If it's even in effect for Germany, which it may not be.william-james88 wrote:That April 24th street date for The Last Knight toys is being broken left right and centre.
The user who submitted this is attuned with the market and said that the street date was applicable:
The first Last Knight figures have arrived at German retail. Apparently someone broke the street date.
