Two Page Velocitron Speedia 500 Comic from Takara and Sakamoto
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Re: Two Page Velocitron Speedia 500 Comic from Takara and Sakamoto
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Comment by Rodimus Prime
Aug 27, 2022
Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.
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His case box says BLK Convoy, too.
Hey you need a Blitzwing? Store up the street from my job has one...Walmart.
Comment by sol magnus
Aug 27, 2022
Rodimus Prime wrote:Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.
His case box says BLK Convoy, too.
Hey you need a Blitzwing? Store up the street from my job has one...Walmart.
Re: Two Page Velocitron Speedia 500 Comic from Takara and Sakamoto
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Black Convoy is his name in all initial retailer listings and its the name on the case/shipping box.
Comment by william-james88
Aug 27, 2022
Rodimus Prime wrote:Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.
Black Convoy is his name in all initial retailer listings and its the name on the case/shipping box.
Re: Two Page Velocitron Speedia 500 Comic from Takara and Sakamoto
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Hasbro used it due to another figure also possibly being on the shelf also called scourge
Comment by Randomhero
Aug 27, 2022
william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.
Black Convoy is his name in all initial retailer listings and its the name on the case/shipping box.
Hasbro used it due to another figure also possibly being on the shelf also called scourge
Re: Two Page Velocitron Speedia 500 Comic from Takara and Sakamoto
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That is just fan speculation and from what we were told by Hasbro developers who worked on this toy, it's more than likely flat out false.
Comment by william-james88
Aug 27, 2022
Randomhero wrote:william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.
Black Convoy is his name in all initial retailer listings and its the name on the case/shipping box.
Hasbro used it due to another figure also possibly being on the shelf also called scourge
That is just fan speculation and from what we were told by Hasbro developers who worked on this toy, it's more than likely flat out false.
Re: Two Page Velocitron Speedia 500 Comic from Takara and Sakamoto
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Comment by Razorbeast88
Aug 27, 2022
I thought they said they went with black convoy since that was the Japanese name and car robots came out first or something like that
Re: Two Page Velocitron Speedia 500 Comic from Takara and Sakamoto
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In Japan "Black Convoy" is a more generic name or descriptor for both RiD 2001 Scourge and a lot of Nemesis Primes, guess they found out the latter part a bit too late
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Aug 27, 2022
william-james88 wrote:Randomhero wrote:william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.
Black Convoy is his name in all initial retailer listings and its the name on the case/shipping box.
Hasbro used it due to another figure also possibly being on the shelf also called scourge
That is just fan speculation and from what we were told by Hasbro developers who worked on this toy, it's more than likely flat out false.
In Japan "Black Convoy" is a more generic name or descriptor for both RiD 2001 Scourge and a lot of Nemesis Primes, guess they found out the latter part a bit too late

Re: Two Page Velocitron Speedia 500 Comic from Takara and Sakamoto
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Well they also gave us a half baked reason for the deco which looks more like they based him off the wrong image off Google. It’s happened before
Comment by Randomhero
Aug 27, 2022
william-james88 wrote:Randomhero wrote:william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.
Black Convoy is his name in all initial retailer listings and its the name on the case/shipping box.
Hasbro used it due to another figure also possibly being on the shelf also called scourge
That is just fan speculation and from what we were told by Hasbro developers who worked on this toy, it's more than likely flat out false.
Well they also gave us a half baked reason for the deco which looks more like they based him off the wrong image off Google. It’s happened before
Re: Two Page Velocitron Speedia 500 Comic from Takara and Sakamoto
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I get it though, the whole issue comes from the fact that Laser Prime has a translucent chest. Crazy how all deco choices stem from that. Because then, the chest must be the same colour as the windshield. So then be it scourge or any type of black Convoy, we get pink/red chest windows. And the rest ensues.
Comment by william-james88
Aug 27, 2022
Randomhero wrote:william-james88 wrote:Randomhero wrote:william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.
Black Convoy is his name in all initial retailer listings and its the name on the case/shipping box.
Hasbro used it due to another figure also possibly being on the shelf also called scourge
That is just fan speculation and from what we were told by Hasbro developers who worked on this toy, it's more than likely flat out false.
Well they also gave us a half baked reason for the deco which looks more like they based him off the wrong image off Google. It’s happened before
I get it though, the whole issue comes from the fact that Laser Prime has a translucent chest. Crazy how all deco choices stem from that. Because then, the chest must be the same colour as the windshield. So then be it scourge or any type of black Convoy, we get pink/red chest windows. And the rest ensues.
Re: Two Page Velocitron Speedia 500 Comic from Takara and Sakamoto
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I dont buy that, it would be just as easy to apply the tampos needed to the chest with or without translucent parts. Also the RTS repaint also had the the translucent windshield and was still closer to Scourge's deco than this new one
Comment by grimdragon2001
Aug 27, 2022
william-james88 wrote:Randomhero wrote:william-james88 wrote:Randomhero wrote:william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.
Black Convoy is his name in all initial retailer listings and its the name on the case/shipping box.
Hasbro used it due to another figure also possibly being on the shelf also called scourge
That is just fan speculation and from what we were told by Hasbro developers who worked on this toy, it's more than likely flat out false.
Well they also gave us a half baked reason for the deco which looks more like they based him off the wrong image off Google. It’s happened before
I get it though, the whole issue comes from the fact that Laser Prime has a translucent chest. Crazy how all deco choices stem from that. Because then, the chest must be the same colour as the windshield. So then be it scourge or any type of black Convoy, we get pink/red chest windows. And the rest ensues.
I dont buy that, it would be just as easy to apply the tampos needed to the chest with or without translucent parts. Also the RTS repaint also had the the translucent windshield and was still closer to Scourge's deco than this new one
Re: Two Page Velocitron Speedia 500 Comic from Takara and Sakamoto
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I'm just writing the explanation Hasbro gave in their decision process for the deco
Comment by william-james88
Aug 27, 2022
grimdragon2001 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Randomhero wrote:william-james88 wrote:Randomhero wrote:william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.
Black Convoy is his name in all initial retailer listings and its the name on the case/shipping box.
Hasbro used it due to another figure also possibly being on the shelf also called scourge
That is just fan speculation and from what we were told by Hasbro developers who worked on this toy, it's more than likely flat out false.
Well they also gave us a half baked reason for the deco which looks more like they based him off the wrong image off Google. It’s happened before
I get it though, the whole issue comes from the fact that Laser Prime has a translucent chest. Crazy how all deco choices stem from that. Because then, the chest must be the same colour as the windshield. So then be it scourge or any type of black Convoy, we get pink/red chest windows. And the rest ensues.
I dont buy that, it would be just as easy to apply the tampos needed to the chest with or without translucent parts. Also the RTS repaint also had the the translucent windshield and was still closer to Scourge's deco than this new one
I'm just writing the explanation Hasbro gave in their decision process for the deco
Re: Two Page Velocitron Speedia 500 Comic from Takara and Sakamoto
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That was their excuse for using RID 2000 instead of 2001.
Sam said they weren't actually sure what figure they were designing at the time (even the name Nemesis Prime was possible), the only mandate from higher up was that it had to have a silver tanker. He admitted that the chest colors were a mistake on his part, it seems he didn't really understand the nuances between the designs.
Reposting this from the previous article:


On the topic of the comic, I'm going to guess the remaining cheerers for part 2 of the comic. Hot Shot or Clocker for Override, Deep Cover for Clampdown, and Skybite or Dark Ai for Scourge.
Emerje
Comment by Emerje
Aug 28, 2022
Razorbeast88 wrote:I thought they said they went with black convoy since that was the Japanese name and car robots came out first or something like that
That was their excuse for using RID 2000 instead of 2001.
Sam said they weren't actually sure what figure they were designing at the time (even the name Nemesis Prime was possible), the only mandate from higher up was that it had to have a silver tanker. He admitted that the chest colors were a mistake on his part, it seems he didn't really understand the nuances between the designs.
Reposting this from the previous article:


On the topic of the comic, I'm going to guess the remaining cheerers for part 2 of the comic. Hot Shot or Clocker for Override, Deep Cover for Clampdown, and Skybite or Dark Ai for Scourge.
Emerje
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Comment by TOO MUCH ENERGON!
Aug 28, 2022
I’ll be all over Scourge when or if I find one, but I truly have no idea what this line is supposed to be.
Re: Two Page Velocitron Speedia 500 Comic from Takara and Sakamoto
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It's the ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ line.
Comment by -Kanrabat-
Aug 28, 2022
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:I’ll be all over Scourge when or if I find one, but I truly have no idea what this line is supposed to be.
It's the ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ line.
Re: Two Page Velocitron Speedia 500 Comic from Takara and Sakamoto
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It's more product for Wal-Mart, nothing more
Comment by william-james88
Aug 28, 2022
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:I’ll be all over Scourge when or if I find one, but I truly have no idea what this line is supposed to be.
It's more product for Wal-Mart, nothing more
Re: Two Page Velocitron Speedia 500 Comic from Takara and Sakamoto
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It's a slightly more cohesively themed Buzzworthy Bumblebee line
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Aug 28, 2022
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:I’ll be all over Scourge when or if I find one, but I truly have no idea what this line is supposed to be.
It's a slightly more cohesively themed Buzzworthy Bumblebee line

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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Aug 28, 2022
The comic is cute, also appreciate IDW2005 Swerve finding another Blurr to cheer for
Re: Two Page Velocitron Speedia 500 Comic from Takara and Sakamoto
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I thought he was cheering on IDW Blurr or is this supposed to be IDW Version 2.0 Blur?
As for what the line is about, well, let's imagine shall we...
Hasbro exec: Walmart need another exclusive tf line, and your going to give it to them!
Designer: okay...what's it about? I mean we doing original toys or what?
Hasbro exec: whatever we have in the budget and not a cent more!
Designer: so redecos then...
Hasbro Exec: no idea what you're talking about.
Designer: but it needs a theme! Why are we pulling these characters together?
Designer B: ohh Animated collection! We can redeco the Ark as Omega Supreme!
Hasbro Exec: you're fired...look, people like nascar and stuff, so do a race, but put more thought into it! Now I'm going for my elevenses at starbucks, I want you working on this non-stop!
Designer C: so...a inter-dimensional race?
Designer A: yeah, I'm thinking a race...
Comment by ZeroWolf
Aug 28, 2022
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:The comic is cute, also appreciate IDW2005 Swerve finding another Blurr to cheer for
I thought he was cheering on IDW Blurr or is this supposed to be IDW Version 2.0 Blur?
As for what the line is about, well, let's imagine shall we...
Hasbro exec: Walmart need another exclusive tf line, and your going to give it to them!
Designer: okay...what's it about? I mean we doing original toys or what?
Hasbro exec: whatever we have in the budget and not a cent more!
Designer: so redecos then...
Hasbro Exec: no idea what you're talking about.
Designer: but it needs a theme! Why are we pulling these characters together?
Designer B: ohh Animated collection! We can redeco the Ark as Omega Supreme!
Hasbro Exec: you're fired...look, people like nascar and stuff, so do a race, but put more thought into it! Now I'm going for my elevenses at starbucks, I want you working on this non-stop!
Designer C: so...a inter-dimensional race?
Designer A: yeah, I'm thinking a race...
Re: Two Page Velocitron Speedia 500 Comic from Takara and Sakamoto
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I dunno, I'm just going with it's an alternate universe IDW Blurr since the main IDW Blurr was killed by Unicron.
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Aug 28, 2022
ZeroWolf wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:The comic is cute, also appreciate IDW2005 Swerve finding another Blurr to cheer for
I thought he was cheering on IDW Blurr or is this supposed to be IDW Version 2.0 Blur?
I dunno, I'm just going with it's an alternate universe IDW Blurr since the main IDW Blurr was killed by Unicron.
Re: Two Page Velocitron Speedia 500 Comic from Takara and Sakamoto
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Honestly, I don't think anyone (from the designers to Sakamoto) even thought about that.
Comment by ZeroWolf
Aug 28, 2022
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:The comic is cute, also appreciate IDW2005 Swerve finding another Blurr to cheer for
I thought he was cheering on IDW Blurr or is this supposed to be IDW Version 2.0 Blur?
I dunno, I'm just going with it's an alternate universe IDW Blurr since the main IDW Blurr was killed by Unicron.
Honestly, I don't think anyone (from the designers to Sakamoto) even thought about that.