Video Review for Netflix Transformers deluxe Ironhide Redeco Quintesson Soldier

Man I love the colors on the Q Guard.

Emerje wrote:Really strange that we still haven't seen Deep Cover yet, usually the Deluxe figures all get leaked around the same time.

Emerje

Ummmm... Deep Cover's already been officially revealed. In fact, he's currently up for preorder on Pulse and several other sites. Unless there's another version of Deep Cover we're getting that I haven't heard about.

Decepticon Stryker wrote:

Emerje wrote:Really strange that we still haven't seen Deep Cover yet, usually the Deluxe figures all get leaked around the same time.

Emerje

Ummmm... Deep Cover's already been officially revealed. In fact, he's currently up for preorder on Pulse and several other sites. Unless there's another version of Deep Cover we're getting that I haven't heard about.

It's that option I bolded, I believe the product description for the Selects Deep Cover even alludes to it by stating it was one of two releases of the character coming this year. The leaked listings for this Netflix wave that the actual figure leaks have lined up with say there's a Netflix Deep Cover, and some leakers have said he looks more like some of the Lambo body-type generics from the show rather than the actual Deep Cover color scheme/deco the Selects figure sports.

Sabrblade wrote:

It doesn't look bad, I do like that black and silver colour scheme and the battle damage detailing actually seems to work with the paint job. I probably won't buy this though, because I don't have any other Quintessons and I'm guessing with it being an army builder it'll be particularly hard to get.

I think Hasbro wanted to have their cake and eat it too. Using the Crosshairs head would have worked worked better as a drone, but using the Ironhide head let them sort of do a half-assed diaclone homage.

DeathReviews wrote:Seriously - if this is supposed to be a 'drone' figure like the Allicon or Gnaw, then they should at least give it a new face sculpt - something with a visor and face plate. Just to make them more anonymous and intimidating. Giving him the same gormless FACE as Ironhide just makes it look like somebody stuck Ironhide in the freezer for a month.

Well if they gave it another head, it wouldnt match the show model. That's the real restriction here.

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Seriously - if this is supposed to be a 'drone' figure like the Allicon or Gnaw, then they should at least give it a new face sculpt - something with a visor and face plate. Just to make them more anonymous and intimidating. Giving him the same gormless FACE as Ironhide just makes it look like somebody stuck Ironhide in the freezer for a month.

Well if they gave it another head, it wouldnt match the show model. That's the real restriction here.

Gotta wonder if the reuse of heads is because Hasbro didn't send over the 3D models from the toys like they did the others, or if it was the animators just being lazy and not wanting to work with more models than they had to.

Emerje

I doubt "laziness" comes into it more than "budgets" would.

sol magnus wrote:

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Seriously - if this is supposed to be a 'drone' figure like the Allicon or Gnaw, then they should at least give it a new face sculpt - something with a visor and face plate. Just to make them more anonymous and intimidating. Giving him the same gormless FACE as Ironhide just makes it look like somebody stuck Ironhide in the freezer for a month.

Well if they gave it another head, it wouldnt match the show model. That's the real restriction here.

Gotta wonder if the reuse of heads is because Hasbro didn't send over the 3D models from the toys like they did the others, or if it was the animators just being lazy and not wanting to work with more models than they had to.

Emerje

I doubt "laziness" comes into it more than "budgets" would.

I don't know how much "budget" is a factor when they're just using the same 3D models used to make the toys and they don't exactly have to rig them for animation since none of the do much emoting. It's not the same as, say, giving Moonracer or Cliffjumper the right head, that would have required some animation work and more budget, a static Crosshairs head, not so much.

Emerje

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Seriously - if this is supposed to be a 'drone' figure like the Allicon or Gnaw, then they should at least give it a new face sculpt - something with a visor and face plate. Just to make them more anonymous and intimidating. Giving him the same gormless FACE as Ironhide just makes it look like somebody stuck Ironhide in the freezer for a month.

Well if they gave it another head, it wouldnt match the show model. That's the real restriction here.

Gotta wonder if the reuse of heads is because Hasbro didn't send over the 3D models from the toys like they did the others, or if it was the animators just being lazy and not wanting to work with more models than they had to.

Emerje

I doubt "laziness" comes into it more than "budgets" would.

I don't know how much "budget" is a factor when they're just using the same 3D models used to make the toys and they don't exactly have to rig them for animation since none of the do much emoting. It's not the same as, say, giving Moonracer or Cliffjumper the right head, that would have required some animation work and more budget, a static Crosshairs head, not so much.

Emerje

I think he meant "budget" in regards to how many unique CG models they can use at a time. Thre's only so much money to go around for each new CG model that much of the background generics end up being basic recolors of the existing ones, including this Quintesson grunt soldier being a basic recolor of Ironhide's CG model.

Right, but we aren't talking about scratch building a whole new CG model, we're talking about swapping one head on an existing body for another head that isn't even animated, and they don't even have to do the modeling work, Hasbro has already done it for them, they just have to import it to the existing body. They already did that with Ironhide and Ratchet.

Emerje

Designing one from scratch, either by the studio or Hasbro for potential later use by the other, given the timing of production of both the toy line and the media would logistically speaking a tad difficult so something had to give. Nowadays "retooling" or designing new parts for an existing mold goes beyond just the head, and alternate heads are "built in". Chromia does have one, and it's not Moonracer: