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Video Review of Transformers: Power of the Primes Tailgate
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Jan 14, 2018 at 1:14pm CST
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Check it out, and let us know what you think of this second use of the mold. Do you prefer this version over the first? Would you prefer a more IDW styled toy? Is this an upgrade compared to the previous Generations toy in the Thrilling 30 line? Join in the discussion down in the Energon Pub!
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Re: Video Review of Transformers: Power of the Primes Tailgate
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doesn't screw up totally.
That's pretty likely if they make them at all.
Snap Trap - Sky Lynx retool
Overbite - Rippersnapper recolor
Tentakil - Blot retool
Nautilator - Sinnertwin retool
Skalor - Rippersnapper retool
Seawing - Cutthroat retool or more just using the transformation scheme and assembling the beast mode backwards
Comment by Lunatic Prime
Jan 14, 2018
Same here. I guess they wouldn't look as cool as TFC Toys' Poseidon but I would buy them ifbodrock wrote:Terrorcons, Horrorcons -- what about the Seacons?! I'd love a Tentakil update.

bodrock wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if they were an exclusive boxset later on....
That's pretty likely if they make them at all.
Snap Trap - Sky Lynx retool
Overbite - Rippersnapper recolor
Tentakil - Blot retool
Nautilator - Sinnertwin retool
Skalor - Rippersnapper retool
Seawing - Cutthroat retool or more just using the transformation scheme and assembling the beast mode backwards
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Not for PotP, but I suppose it would not be impossible for them to be released as figures in a later Generations line. Either with or without their Headmaster gimmick intact, in the former's case they would simply have compatible engineering with previous Titan Masters.
I'll repeat myself but it still bugs me that in a line with mandatory headmaster and triple-changers at a Voyager class we never got Horrorcons. Hasbro was smoking some weird shit when they decided to skip these guys.
Comment by Skritz
Jan 14, 2018
Albatross250 wrote:Does everyone kept waiting for Apeface and Snapdragon as of now?
Not for PotP, but I suppose it would not be impossible for them to be released as figures in a later Generations line. Either with or without their Headmaster gimmick intact, in the former's case they would simply have compatible engineering with previous Titan Masters.
I'll repeat myself but it still bugs me that in a line with mandatory headmaster and triple-changers at a Voyager class we never got Horrorcons. Hasbro was smoking some weird shit when they decided to skip these guys.
Re: Video Review of Transformers: Power of the Primes Tailgate
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PotP alt mode = G1 vehicle mode
PotP robot mode = G1 beast mode
PotP combiner mode= G1 robot mode
Or they swap robot and beast mode which would be pretty cool. Just imagine a combiner gorilla and a combiner dragon.
I totally agree.
Comment by Lunatic Prime
Jan 14, 2018
There's a possibility to get them in PotP. They could treat them like Sky Lynx.Skritz wrote:Not for PotP, but I suppose it would not be impossible for them to be released as figures in a later Generations line. Either with or without their Headmaster gimmick intact, in the former's case they would simply have compatible engineering with previous Titan Masters.Albatross250 wrote:Does everyone kept waiting for Apeface and Snapdragon as of now?
PotP alt mode = G1 vehicle mode
PotP robot mode = G1 beast mode
PotP combiner mode= G1 robot mode
Or they swap robot and beast mode which would be pretty cool. Just imagine a combiner gorilla and a combiner dragon.

Skritz wrote:I'll repeat myself but it still bugs me that in a line with mandatory headmaster and triple-changers at a Voyager class we never got Horrorcons. Hasbro was smoking some weird **** when they decided to skip these guys.
I totally agree.
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TF Wiki seems to have very idiosyncratic ideas about retool terminology. Guessing maybe it’s Walky’s preferences manifesting?
For example, there are cases of pretooling or shared tooling but they always treat the first released figure as the “original”. Even if it isn’t the first DISPLAYED figure or is obviously a redeco of a later figure obviously designed first.
Comment by RodimusRex
Jan 14, 2018
Emerje wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Btw, I read somewhere that Blot is a retool of Rippersnapper... I don't see any pieces in common at all, do you?
Ok, I'll grant you the hips, the upper legs and the Combiner port, anything else?
Yeah, I read the same thing on TFWiki. Strangely both times they called Blot a heavy retool of Rippersnapper even though they would have been designed at the same time so who can really say which was made first? And that's really all I see, the entire upper legs from the knees to the hips, the combiner peg, and the peg cover. Seems more like a case of parts sharing than anything like retooling.
Emerje
TF Wiki seems to have very idiosyncratic ideas about retool terminology. Guessing maybe it’s Walky’s preferences manifesting?
For example, there are cases of pretooling or shared tooling but they always treat the first released figure as the “original”. Even if it isn’t the first DISPLAYED figure or is obviously a redeco of a later figure obviously designed first.
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The pieces from their crotches to their knees seem all to be the same.
Comment by Lunatic Prime
Jan 14, 2018
RodimusRex wrote:Emerje wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Btw, I read somewhere that Blot is a retool of Rippersnapper... I don't see any pieces in common at all, do you?
Ok, I'll grant you the hips, the upper legs and the Combiner port, anything else?
Yeah, I read the same thing on TFWiki. Strangely both times they called Blot a heavy retool of Rippersnapper even though they would have been designed at the same time so who can really say which was made first? And that's really all I see, the entire upper legs from the knees to the hips, the combiner peg, and the peg cover. Seems more like a case of parts sharing than anything like retooling.
Emerje
TF Wiki seems to have very idiosyncratic ideas about retool terminology. Guessing maybe it’s Walky’s preferences manifesting?
For example, there are cases of pretooling or shared tooling but they always treat the first released figure as the “original”. Even if it isn’t the first DISPLAYED figure or is obviously a redeco of a later figure obviously designed first.
The pieces from their crotches to their knees seem all to be the same.
Re: Video Review of Transformers: Power of the Primes Tailgate
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I.e. the upper legs. With the Combiner Peg that's all they share. Ugh, I'll put them together anyway as part sharers, it's possible they share some we don't immediately see like the joints.
The term is a mess anyway, no need for discussion about it in this thread and derail it once again.
Back to Tailgate, he looks decent. Good call on retooling the chest as well as the head.
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Jan 14, 2018
Lunatic Prime wrote:RodimusRex wrote:Emerje wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Btw, I read somewhere that Blot is a retool of Rippersnapper... I don't see any pieces in common at all, do you?
Ok, I'll grant you the hips, the upper legs and the Combiner port, anything else?
Yeah, I read the same thing on TFWiki. Strangely both times they called Blot a heavy retool of Rippersnapper even though they would have been designed at the same time so who can really say which was made first? And that's really all I see, the entire upper legs from the knees to the hips, the combiner peg, and the peg cover. Seems more like a case of parts sharing than anything like retooling.
Emerje
TF Wiki seems to have very idiosyncratic ideas about retool terminology. Guessing maybe it’s Walky’s preferences manifesting?
For example, there are cases of pretooling or shared tooling but they always treat the first released figure as the “original”. Even if it isn’t the first DISPLAYED figure or is obviously a redeco of a later figure obviously designed first.
The pieces from their crotches to their knees seem all to be the same.
I.e. the upper legs. With the Combiner Peg that's all they share. Ugh, I'll put them together anyway as part sharers, it's possible they share some we don't immediately see like the joints.
The term is a mess anyway, no need for discussion about it in this thread and derail it once again.

Back to Tailgate, he looks decent. Good call on retooling the chest as well as the head.
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Comment by Rated X
Jan 14, 2018
I hated that damn IDW tailgate. I was also upset that we never got one from the scout class Windcharger mold. So its great Tailgate finally gets some justice. Now all we need is a proper Huffer/Pipes original mold instead of a crappy prime repaint.
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Comment by Evil Eye
Jan 14, 2018
Ah yes, because whenever I think of memorable characters from the cartoon, I think of Tailgate! Oh old Tailgate, with his iconic scene where he appears, gets stood on by Trypticon and never does anything again!
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I don't see any retooling of the chest.
Comment by Lunatic Prime
Jan 14, 2018
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Back to Tailgate, he looks decent. Good call on retooling the chest as well as the head.
I don't see any retooling of the chest.

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Comment by Sabrblade
Jan 14, 2018
That was Swerve.Black Hat wrote:Oh old Tailgate, with his iconic scene where he appears, gets stood on by Trypticon and never does anything again!

Re: Video Review of Transformers: Power of the Primes Tailgate
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There isn't any. Just paint
Comment by steals_your_goats
Jan 14, 2018
Lunatic Prime wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Back to Tailgate, he looks decent. Good call on retooling the chest as well as the head.
I don't see any retooling of the chest.
There isn't any. Just paint
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Comment by MECHdirge
Jan 14, 2018
I really like this Tailgate. I have a recent third party version, but I just received a G1 Tailgate for Christmas, one of the last inexpensive figures from the first three years I was missing. Anyway, I think this is a nice addition to the line and is better than the Combiner Wars version. Just my take.
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What combiner wars version?
Comment by william-james88
Jan 14, 2018
MECHdirge wrote:I really like this Tailgate. I have a recent third party version, but I just received a G1 Tailgate for Christmas, one of the last inexpensive figures from the first three years I was missing. Anyway, I think this is a nice addition to the line and is better than the Combiner Wars version. Just my take.
What combiner wars version?
Re: Video Review of Transformers: Power of the Primes Tailgate
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And you are so right, just paint and stickers. Just goes to show how different Windcharger and Tailgate look on first sight.
I think he means the T30 one. The CW one is his retool Windcharger.
Yup, T30 to CW went in the opposite direction
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Jan 14, 2018
Lunatic Prime wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Back to Tailgate, he looks decent. Good call on retooling the chest as well as the head.
I don't see any retooling of the chest.
And you are so right, just paint and stickers. Just goes to show how different Windcharger and Tailgate look on first sight.

william-james88 wrote:MECHdirge wrote:I really like this Tailgate. I have a recent third party version, but I just received a G1 Tailgate for Christmas, one of the last inexpensive figures from the first three years I was missing. Anyway, I think this is a nice addition to the line and is better than the Combiner Wars version. Just my take.
What combiner wars version?
I think he means the T30 one. The CW one is his retool Windcharger.
Yup, T30 to CW went in the opposite direction

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I guess he means the Thrilling 30th one or its recolor Combiner Wars Windcharger.
Speaking of Minibots, Beachcomber's alt mode is pretty big compared to Brawn.
Comment by Lunatic Prime
Jan 14, 2018
william-james88 wrote:MECHdirge wrote:I really like this Tailgate. I have a recent third party version, but I just received a G1 Tailgate for Christmas, one of the last inexpensive figures from the first three years I was missing. Anyway, I think this is a nice addition to the line and is better than the Combiner Wars version. Just my take.
What combiner wars version?
I guess he means the Thrilling 30th one or its recolor Combiner Wars Windcharger.
Speaking of Minibots, Beachcomber's alt mode is pretty big compared to Brawn.
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Comment by DMSL
Jan 14, 2018
It must be a headmaster otherwise the trio will just look lame together. They can easily retool Grotusque. Just remove the tail and wings, give him a new head and hind legs and you are done.
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Remove the tail? So you want a Repugnus without legs in robot mode
Comment by Lunatic Prime
Jan 14, 2018
DMSL wrote:It must be a headmaster otherwise the trio will just look lame together. They can easily retool Grotusque. Just remove the tail and wings, give him a new head and hind legs and you are done.
Remove the tail? So you want a Repugnus without legs in robot mode

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No stickers just paint.
Comment by steals_your_goats
Jan 14, 2018
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Back to Tailgate, he looks decent. Good call on retooling the chest as well as the head.
I don't see any retooling of the chest.
And you are so right, just paint and stickers. Just goes to show how different Windcharger and Tailgate look on first sight.
No stickers just paint.
Re: Video Review of Transformers: Power of the Primes Tailgate
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What do you mean?? There was the huge news post about an employee from amazon who said there will be beast wars box sets with Optimus Primal using the POTP ape face mold but not a headmaster and Megatron using the POTP Snapdragon mood also not being a headmaster and there would be 5-6 figures per box! The guy who claimed all this even saw pictures even though that’s not how that works in the slightest!
Oh wait that was a whole bunch of lies once we found out POTP line main gimmick was combiners. God I still think about that and how full of it that whole thing was.
Comment by Randomhero
Jan 14, 2018
Skritz wrote:Albatross250 wrote:Does everyone kept waiting for Apeface and Snapdragon as of now?
Not for PotP, but I suppose it would not be impossible for them to be released as figures in a later Generations line. Either with or without their Headmaster gimmick intact, in the former's case they would simply have compatible engineering with previous Titan Masters.
I'll repeat myself but it still bugs me that in a line with mandatory headmaster and triple-changers at a Voyager class we never got Horrorcons. Hasbro was smoking some weird **** when they decided to skip these guys.
What do you mean?? There was the huge news post about an employee from amazon who said there will be beast wars box sets with Optimus Primal using the POTP ape face mold but not a headmaster and Megatron using the POTP Snapdragon mood also not being a headmaster and there would be 5-6 figures per box! The guy who claimed all this even saw pictures even though that’s not how that works in the slightest!
Oh wait that was a whole bunch of lies once we found out POTP line main gimmick was combiners. God I still think about that and how full of it that whole thing was.
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Nah. Just switch the pointy tail-bits with nubs so that it is more of an insect-abdomen.
Comment by DecepticonFinishline
Jan 14, 2018
Lunatic Prime wrote:DMSL wrote:It must be a headmaster otherwise the trio will just look lame together. They can easily retool Grotusque. Just remove the tail and wings, give him a new head and hind legs and you are done.
Remove the tail? So you want a Repugnus without legs in robot mode
Nah. Just switch the pointy tail-bits with nubs so that it is more of an insect-abdomen.