It's two more figures from Wave 1 of RID! Bumble is fun with a pleasant transformation but Steeljaw just doesn't work on any level, the marbleized blue plastic is nice though. If you can only get one go with Bumblebee.
Video Review - Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Class Steeljaw
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Dec 17, 2014 at 4:07am CST
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Re: Video Review - Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Class Steeljaw
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Comment by Lockdownhunter
Dec 17, 2014
Your audio has improved! 
So clear and easily understood!!!!!!
So clear and easily understood!!!!!!
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Comment by Lockdownhunter
Dec 17, 2014
Double post
Why are you still seeing this?
Why are you still seeing this?
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Comment by Ultra Markus
Dec 17, 2014
a little work i might get those elbows moving 
i was on the fence about these but these figures intrigue me now
i was on the fence about these but these figures intrigue me now
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Comment by Ultra Markus
Dec 17, 2014
checked amazon and those prices are way way way outrageous 
ill wait till they hit the shelves 
ill wait till they hit the shelves
Re: Video Review - Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Class Steeljaw
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Comment by Seibertron
Dec 17, 2014
My quick thoughts on Steeljaw and Strongarm. I think they're the most under rated figures from this wave. I love both of them! Steeljaw is actually really awesome if you pose him with his legs like a wolf's legs. You absolutely do NOT need to use his tail for support like so many people keep saying in video reviews. Listening to chuckdawg's review right now and it sounds like he missed how to pose Steeljaw properly as well. Bummer! Can't wait to share pics of him posed properly in my gallery later tonight or tomorrow.
And he most definitely has elbow joints, Chuck!
And he most definitely has elbow joints, Chuck!
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Cant wait for those galleries!
Comment by william-james88
Dec 17, 2014
Seibertron wrote:My quick thoughts on Steeljaw and Strongarm. I think they're the most under rated figures from this wave. I love both of them! Steeljaw is actually really awesome if you pose him with his legs like a wolf's legs. You absolutely do NOT need to use his tail for support like so many people keep saying in video reviews. Listening to chuckdawg's review right now and it sounds like he missed how to pose Steeljaw properly as well. Bummer! Can't wait to share pics of him posed properly in my gallery later tonight or tomorrow.
And he most definitely has elbow joints, Chuck!
Cant wait for those galleries!
Re: Video Review - Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Class Steeljaw
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Here are 3 images of Steeljaw properly transformed and standing with legs like a wolf and his tail in an upright position.
Comment by Seibertron
Dec 17, 2014
Seibertron wrote:My quick thoughts on Steeljaw and Strongarm. I think they're the most under rated figures from this wave. I love both of them! Steeljaw is actually really awesome if you pose him with his legs like a wolf's legs. You absolutely do NOT need to use his tail for support like so many people keep saying in video reviews. Listening to chuckdawg's review right now and it sounds like he missed how to pose Steeljaw properly as well. Bummer! Can't wait to share pics of him posed properly in my gallery later tonight or tomorrow.
And he most definitely has elbow joints, Chuck!
Here are 3 images of Steeljaw properly transformed and standing with legs like a wolf and his tail in an upright position.
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Comment by crimsondeception
Dec 17, 2014
I was surprised when i saw BBTS sell out of some pre orders. I personally am not a fan of the art and the toys look even more cheaply made. Bumblebee looks like a jock to me for some reason. I dunno I guess its the big chin and neck. I might be interested in a leader Prime figure though
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Glad to see Chuckdawg and some of the other early reviewers got it wrong with Steeljaw. He's the one figure from the line-up that I'm actually looking forward to, for obvious reasons. All the naysaying was apparently unfounded!
Comment by Wolfman Jake
Dec 17, 2014
Seibertron wrote:Seibertron wrote:My quick thoughts on Steeljaw and Strongarm. I think they're the most under rated figures from this wave. I love both of them! Steeljaw is actually really awesome if you pose him with his legs like a wolf's legs. You absolutely do NOT need to use his tail for support like so many people keep saying in video reviews. Listening to chuckdawg's review right now and it sounds like he missed how to pose Steeljaw properly as well. Bummer! Can't wait to share pics of him posed properly in my gallery later tonight or tomorrow.
And he most definitely has elbow joints, Chuck!
Here are 3 images of Steeljaw properly transformed and standing with legs like a wolf and his tail in an upright position.
Glad to see Chuckdawg and some of the other early reviewers got it wrong with Steeljaw. He's the one figure from the line-up that I'm actually looking forward to, for obvious reasons. All the naysaying was apparently unfounded!
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I responded to Ryan on my youtube page but I'll paraphrase it here; I was applying an above average amount of force on the elbow to try and get it to bend. I even went back and took the recommendation of a viewer and tried bending the arm while pulling, the thin gray plastic making up the bicep was bending in a way that caused me concern it was going to break. I was also concerned the blue forearm piece was going to stress and possibly crack the pin. I'm haunted by memories of toys breaking in my hand, I know what plastic feels like when it's going to break. Now the balance issues just might be due to mine having loose hips but I still don't like the permanent knee bend.
For the record I didn't pay the scalper prices on Amazon. They've been floating in and out of stock since a week or so ago, I got lucky.
Comment by chuckdawg1999
Dec 18, 2014
Wolfman Jake wrote:Seibertron wrote:Seibertron wrote:My quick thoughts on Steeljaw and Strongarm. I think they're the most under rated figures from this wave. I love both of them! Steeljaw is actually really awesome if you pose him with his legs like a wolf's legs. You absolutely do NOT need to use his tail for support like so many people keep saying in video reviews. Listening to chuckdawg's review right now and it sounds like he missed how to pose Steeljaw properly as well. Bummer! Can't wait to share pics of him posed properly in my gallery later tonight or tomorrow.
And he most definitely has elbow joints, Chuck!
Here are 3 images of Steeljaw properly transformed and standing with legs like a wolf and his tail in an upright position.
Glad to see Chuckdawg and some of the other early reviewers got it wrong with Steeljaw. He's the one figure from the line-up that I'm actually looking forward to, for obvious reasons. All the naysaying was apparently unfounded!
I responded to Ryan on my youtube page but I'll paraphrase it here; I was applying an above average amount of force on the elbow to try and get it to bend. I even went back and took the recommendation of a viewer and tried bending the arm while pulling, the thin gray plastic making up the bicep was bending in a way that caused me concern it was going to break. I was also concerned the blue forearm piece was going to stress and possibly crack the pin. I'm haunted by memories of toys breaking in my hand, I know what plastic feels like when it's going to break. Now the balance issues just might be due to mine having loose hips but I still don't like the permanent knee bend.
For the record I didn't pay the scalper prices on Amazon. They've been floating in and out of stock since a week or so ago, I got lucky.
Re: Video Review - Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Class Steeljaw
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I mentioned it on the comments for the Legion figures; I made a mistake and was recording the audio from the wrong microphone.
Comment by chuckdawg1999
Dec 18, 2014
Lockdownhunter wrote:Your audio has improved!
So clear and easily understood!!!!!!
I mentioned it on the comments for the Legion figures; I made a mistake and was recording the audio from the wrong microphone.
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Comment by psj333
Dec 18, 2014
Is Strongarm's appearance based on a female bodybuilder, due to her talk bulky size? 
Re: Video Review - Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Class Steeljaw
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One of the elbows on mine is the same way. The other moves fine. Grimlock's were also very tight, but once moving them a few times, they were ok. Some weird tolerances on some of the joints now that they're trying like hell to not use pins.
Comment by ScottyP
Dec 18, 2014
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I was applying an above average amount of force on the elbow to try and get it to bend. I even went back and took the recommendation of a viewer and tried bending the arm while pulling, the thin gray plastic making up the bicep was bending in a way that caused me concern it was going to break.
One of the elbows on mine is the same way. The other moves fine. Grimlock's were also very tight, but once moving them a few times, they were ok. Some weird tolerances on some of the joints now that they're trying like hell to not use pins.
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The left elbow on mine is the more challenging one to move, but it will with some light pressure. It's not like first waves of figures are difficult to find at retail once they start showing up. It seems like the fandom forgets this every time a new series comes out.
Comment by Seibertron
Dec 18, 2014
ScottyP wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:I was applying an above average amount of force on the elbow to try and get it to bend. I even went back and took the recommendation of a viewer and tried bending the arm while pulling, the thin gray plastic making up the bicep was bending in a way that caused me concern it was going to break.
One of the elbows on mine is the same way. The other moves fine. Grimlock's were also very tight, but once moving them a few times, they were ok. Some weird tolerances on some of the joints now that they're trying like hell to not use pins.
The left elbow on mine is the more challenging one to move, but it will with some light pressure. It's not like first waves of figures are difficult to find at retail once they start showing up. It seems like the fandom forgets this every time a new series comes out.
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That's the trouble spot for me too, but like on Chuck's, it really feels like it's gonna just snap if I try to move it. Will probably take it apart over the weekend and do some extremely minor sanding.
Comment by ScottyP
Dec 18, 2014
Seibertron wrote:ScottyP wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:I was applying an above average amount of force on the elbow to try and get it to bend. I even went back and took the recommendation of a viewer and tried bending the arm while pulling, the thin gray plastic making up the bicep was bending in a way that caused me concern it was going to break.
One of the elbows on mine is the same way. The other moves fine. Grimlock's were also very tight, but once moving them a few times, they were ok. Some weird tolerances on some of the joints now that they're trying like hell to not use pins.
The left elbow on mine is the more challenging one to move, but it will with some light pressure.
That's the trouble spot for me too, but like on Chuck's, it really feels like it's gonna just snap if I try to move it. Will probably take it apart over the weekend and do some extremely minor sanding.
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I just forced it to move ... I figured if it broke, I'd just return it to the store once I can get another one.
Comment by Seibertron
Dec 18, 2014
ScottyP wrote:That's the trouble spot for me too, but like on Chuck's, it really feels like it's gonna just snap if I try to move it. Will probably take it apart over the weekend and do some extremely minor sanding.
I just forced it to move ... I figured if it broke, I'd just return it to the store once I can get another one.
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The store would take it back? This happened to me once but I contacted Hasbro instead of returning it to the store. It's a QA issue so Hasbro complies with that, but I didnt know if the store would see it as a defective product instead of a simply someone breaking his toy.
But asides that, I am curious about the judgment given to this figure. It seems that Seibertron sees it as fine because the final toy he is holding and playing with works well, regardless of how it first appeared (needing the extra force for instance). However, Chuck encompasses the need for the extra force in his review. The fact that one might rely on being able to return a product in case it breaks might be seen as a negative for his judgment on the figure regardless of how great the toy is once the elbow (or any other defect) is fixed.
As for me, I am just waiting for it, still buying it on sight, these decepticons look very imaginative. And the hunched look is definitely intended for this robot mode given the subject matter.
Comment by william-james88
Dec 18, 2014
Seibertron wrote:ScottyP wrote:That's the trouble spot for me too, but like on Chuck's, it really feels like it's gonna just snap if I try to move it. Will probably take it apart over the weekend and do some extremely minor sanding.
I just forced it to move ... I figured if it broke, I'd just return it to the store once I can get another one.
The store would take it back? This happened to me once but I contacted Hasbro instead of returning it to the store. It's a QA issue so Hasbro complies with that, but I didnt know if the store would see it as a defective product instead of a simply someone breaking his toy.
But asides that, I am curious about the judgment given to this figure. It seems that Seibertron sees it as fine because the final toy he is holding and playing with works well, regardless of how it first appeared (needing the extra force for instance). However, Chuck encompasses the need for the extra force in his review. The fact that one might rely on being able to return a product in case it breaks might be seen as a negative for his judgment on the figure regardless of how great the toy is once the elbow (or any other defect) is fixed.
As for me, I am just waiting for it, still buying it on sight, these decepticons look very imaginative. And the hunched look is definitely intended for this robot mode given the subject matter.
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When it comes to any of the big box chains (Walmart, Target, Toys R Us, Kmart, Meijer, etc), of course they'd take it back or provide you with a replacement! Make sure when you return a broken product that you put a sticky note on the inside of the package that specifies what the problem is with the toy and make sure that the person working at the customer service desk is aware that there is a problem with the toy (and point out the note on the inside of the package) so that the toy doesn't somehow end up back on the shelves. I assume that the store should be able to get a credit for a faulty product from Hasbro or however that process works.
Comment by Seibertron
Dec 18, 2014
william-james88 wrote:The store would take it back? This happened to me once but I contacted Hasbro instead of returning it to the store. It's a QA issue so Hasbro complies with that, but I didnt know if the store would see it as a defective product instead of a simply someone breaking his toy.
When it comes to any of the big box chains (Walmart, Target, Toys R Us, Kmart, Meijer, etc), of course they'd take it back or provide you with a replacement! Make sure when you return a broken product that you put a sticky note on the inside of the package that specifies what the problem is with the toy and make sure that the person working at the customer service desk is aware that there is a problem with the toy (and point out the note on the inside of the package) so that the toy doesn't somehow end up back on the shelves. I assume that the store should be able to get a credit for a faulty product from Hasbro or however that process works.
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Yep. In my retail days you should have seen the stuff we took back, no questions asked. Got a receipt for the item? Is it within the stated return policy time frame? Done and done. Had a guy that would check over all the opened returns, and either mail em back to the vendor or mark them down for resale.
Comment by ScottyP
Dec 18, 2014
Seibertron wrote:william-james88 wrote:The store would take it back? This happened to me once but I contacted Hasbro instead of returning it to the store. It's a QA issue so Hasbro complies with that, but I didnt know if the store would see it as a defective product instead of a simply someone breaking his toy.
When it comes to any of the big box chains (Walmart, Target, Toys R Us, Kmart, Meijer, etc), of course they'd take it back or provide you with a replacement! Make sure when you return a broken product that you put a sticky note on the inside of the package that specifies what the problem is with the toy and make sure that the person working at the customer service desk is aware that there is a problem with the toy (and point out the note on the inside of the package) so that the toy doesn't somehow end up back on the shelves. I assume that the store should be able to get a credit for a faulty product from Hasbro or however that process works.
Yep. In my retail days you should have seen the stuff we took back, no questions asked. Got a receipt for the item? Is it within the stated return policy time frame? Done and done. Had a guy that would check over all the opened returns, and either mail em back to the vendor or mark them down for resale.
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So when I return a broken item with a note in it stating what's wrong with the product, would Target/Walmart/TRU get a credit on their account for that item when they return it to the vendor?
Comment by Seibertron
Dec 18, 2014
ScottyP wrote:Seibertron wrote:william-james88 wrote:The store would take it back? This happened to me once but I contacted Hasbro instead of returning it to the store. It's a QA issue so Hasbro complies with that, but I didnt know if the store would see it as a defective product instead of a simply someone breaking his toy.
When it comes to any of the big box chains (Walmart, Target, Toys R Us, Kmart, Meijer, etc), of course they'd take it back or provide you with a replacement! Make sure when you return a broken product that you put a sticky note on the inside of the package that specifies what the problem is with the toy and make sure that the person working at the customer service desk is aware that there is a problem with the toy (and point out the note on the inside of the package) so that the toy doesn't somehow end up back on the shelves. I assume that the store should be able to get a credit for a faulty product from Hasbro or however that process works.
Yep. In my retail days you should have seen the stuff we took back, no questions asked. Got a receipt for the item? Is it within the stated return policy time frame? Done and done. Had a guy that would check over all the opened returns, and either mail em back to the vendor or mark them down for resale.
So when I return a broken item with a note in it stating what's wrong with the product, would Target/Walmart/TRU get a credit on their account for that item when they return it to the vendor?
