We are Getting Cybertron Hotshot and Leader Soundwave in Legacy Line
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Comment by Emerje
Jun 15, 2023
I feel like we heard rumors of Cybertron Hotshot before. Interesting that Soundwave is a leader, I wonder how many tapes he'll come with at that price?
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I'll be stunned and laughing if it turns out to be a rerelease of the Netflix set in Legacy packaging.
Though Blaster and Twincast did get a cassette with each of them and they remained at voyager price. So maybe with Soundwave we'll get both birds and Ravage for the extra money.
Comment by Rodimus Prime
Jun 15, 2023
The difference between a voyager and leader is roughly 20 bucks before taxes, so I expect 2 cassettes to come with him. Since we got Rumble in SS86 and Frenzy is sure to follow, I'm guessing the classic duo of Laserbeak and Ravage will come with this figure.Emerje wrote:I feel like we heard rumors of Cybertron Hotshot before. Interesting that Soundwave is a leader, I wonder how many tapes he'll come with at that price?
I'll be stunned and laughing if it turns out to be a rerelease of the Netflix set in Legacy packaging.
Though Blaster and Twincast did get a cassette with each of them and they remained at voyager price. So maybe with Soundwave we'll get both birds and Ravage for the extra money.
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Comment by -Kanrabat-
Jun 15, 2023
I expect "leader" Soundwave to just be a reissue of the Netflix Soundwave set.
I'm 99% sure of that and I'll be fine with it.
But if in the 1% chance that everything are a brand new mold, with no "Siege Soundwave scars", and if he comes with a completely remade Lazerbeak and Ravage cassettes, I'd be impressed.
I'm 99% sure of that and I'll be fine with it.
But if in the 1% chance that everything are a brand new mold, with no "Siege Soundwave scars", and if he comes with a completely remade Lazerbeak and Ravage cassettes, I'd be impressed.
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Comment by Brokebot
Jun 15, 2023
Time to get the eyes checked. I read that as HotsPot instead of HotsHot and briefly got excited about a potential set of Protectobots.
Darn them all to heck.
Darn them all to heck.

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Comment by Gauntlet101010
Jun 15, 2023
Leader Soundwave?
Hopefully it's just a Netflix repack and not some bullshit like a repack with Buzzsaw or something.
What if it's Marvel Soundwave? With that shade of purple and the mouth?
Hopefully it's just a Netflix repack and not some bullshit like a repack with Buzzsaw or something.
What if it's Marvel Soundwave? With that shade of purple and the mouth?
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I could go for a Soundwave that that can handle all of the different sized cassettes that have already been released in other lines. Never gonna happen because
has to sell new cassettes, but I can dream.
Comment by Brokebot
Jun 15, 2023
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Leader Soundwave?
Hopefully it's just a Netflix repack and not some bullshit like a repack with Buzzsaw or something.
What if it's Marvel Soundwave? With that shade of purple and the mouth?
I could go for a Soundwave that that can handle all of the different sized cassettes that have already been released in other lines. Never gonna happen because

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Comment by Munkky
Jun 15, 2023
I suspect that this "Leader" Soundwave is a re-release of the Netflix toy. The brand team have said before that they keep an eye on the secondary market (which is why Legacy Dirge and the Buzzworthy Bumblebee Dark of the Moon Optimus Prime happened), and that version of Soundwave is a highly sought after and rare figure so it would make sense to give it another run for those who missed out on it, and fingers crossed the yellowing plastic issue is fixed. As for the cassettes, I never much liked the Siege/Netflix Micromaster version of Ravage, so a completely new or heavily retooled version would be nice, but even if it is just the same that will be fine too. Perhaps they could throw in Buzzsaw and/or Ratbat to bump up the parts count and justify the Leader price tag?
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure this release will be a rerelease of the Netflix mold, plus a new mold core class level Ravage and perhaps a new mold core class level Buzzsaw, thus bringing it up to leader price.
Comment by Rtron
Jun 15, 2023
Munkky wrote:I suspect that this "Leader" Soundwave is a re-release of the Netflix toy. The brand team have said before that they keep an eye on the secondary market (which is why Legacy Dirge and the Buzzworthy Bumblebee Dark of the Moon Optimus Prime happened), and that version of Soundwave is a highly sought after and rare figure so it would make sense to give it another run for those who missed out on it, and fingers crossed the yellowing plastic issue is fixed. As for the cassettes, I never much liked the Siege/Netflix Micromaster version of Ravage, so a completely new or heavily retooled version would be nice, but even if it is just the same that will be fine too. Perhaps they could throw in Buzzsaw and/or Ratbat to bump up the parts count and justify the Leader price tag?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure this release will be a rerelease of the Netflix mold, plus a new mold core class level Ravage and perhaps a new mold core class level Buzzsaw, thus bringing it up to leader price.
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Comment by o.supreme
Jun 15, 2023
I tend to think this will be Netflix Soundwave with cassettes also. However that would be perfect for SS86....
I mean, I know one of the TF team said they would want to do another new Soundwave for SS86 to make him as tall as Kingdom Blaster ( although the difference in height is pretty insignificant). I think both Kingdom Blaster and Netflix Soundwave are perfect for SS86 as they are....
I mean, I know one of the TF team said they would want to do another new Soundwave for SS86 to make him as tall as Kingdom Blaster ( although the difference in height is pretty insignificant). I think both Kingdom Blaster and Netflix Soundwave are perfect for SS86 as they are....
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Comment by Till-all-R1
Jun 15, 2023
Are we glancing over that tidbit about Springer being a Leader, or am I reading that wrong? Because I don't feel that bot is worth a Leader price tag at all.
As for Soundwave being a leader, well the only way I'd buy into that is if it were all new mold. The Cassettes as well need to be new. I'm not paying Leader price for that Netflix retooled version that wasn't G1 to begin with, and those dated cassettes are definitely not worth being reissued IMO. And frankly I just don't see it if we're on the cusp of new cassettes, why reissue the older style and then in a couple years they make new versions of Ravage and Laserbeak? I mean if that's the plan I'll just wait for the better versions in a couple years then.
So far only ones that interest me from tnhat list are Steeljaw and Strongarm.
Not sure what else they could release that's movie themed anyway, pretty much every character has already been seen in some form aside from Unicron and Stratosphere.
That said, I don't really know what exists for that line being as everything is so scattered about. But I do like the looks of Nightbird in bot mode so if a proper version is made she'd be top of the list. I also like Mirage's bot mode but I'm not as keen on him because of the alt change and to me that is jazz's from and I can't get it out of my head. Wheeljack for some reason is a big miss on both counts, don't care for either mode or how he was portrayed in the movie.
As for Stratosphere pretty sure that one would have to be a Leader if made, and while I thought it was kind of neat the design isn't for me enough to buy it. Still way too much Bay in the designs for my taste.
As for Soundwave being a leader, well the only way I'd buy into that is if it were all new mold. The Cassettes as well need to be new. I'm not paying Leader price for that Netflix retooled version that wasn't G1 to begin with, and those dated cassettes are definitely not worth being reissued IMO. And frankly I just don't see it if we're on the cusp of new cassettes, why reissue the older style and then in a couple years they make new versions of Ravage and Laserbeak? I mean if that's the plan I'll just wait for the better versions in a couple years then.
So far only ones that interest me from tnhat list are Steeljaw and Strongarm.
o.supreme wrote:They didn't mention SS86, so I'm guessing Buzzworthy Hound and Voyager Ratchet are still not going to be revealed yet. RotB missing numbers so far are #104. Characters without a SS RotB reveal are: Wheeljack, Stratosphere, Nightbird & Optimus Primal.
Not sure what else they could release that's movie themed anyway, pretty much every character has already been seen in some form aside from Unicron and Stratosphere.
That said, I don't really know what exists for that line being as everything is so scattered about. But I do like the looks of Nightbird in bot mode so if a proper version is made she'd be top of the list. I also like Mirage's bot mode but I'm not as keen on him because of the alt change and to me that is jazz's from and I can't get it out of my head. Wheeljack for some reason is a big miss on both counts, don't care for either mode or how he was portrayed in the movie.
As for Stratosphere pretty sure that one would have to be a Leader if made, and while I thought it was kind of neat the design isn't for me enough to buy it. Still way too much Bay in the designs for my taste.
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Comment by Nemesis Primal
Jun 15, 2023
Cybertron Hotshot is cool to see, but since I'm the weirdo that actually likes the Selects Hound-repaint Hotshot, I'm actually more excited about the potential Excellion repaint here.
Leader Soundwave is very weird, because it's the only figure for next year we have a listing for that doesn't specify which iteration of the character it is (other than the Strongarm repack, but she didn't specify universe in her first listing either). Gears, Sureshot, Sandstorm, and Deluxe Optimus all say G1 in the listing, so the lack of it here is either a weird oversight, or it's like Animated Prowl just being listed as Prowl and it isn't actually G1 Soundwave (or it is a repack like y'all are thinking, but then there would be 2 G1 Soundwaves in Legacy and this listing would still be weird for not saying repack). For the sake of not getting my hopes up though, I'm just going to assume it'll be G1 Soundwave so I can't be disappointed if it isn't.
Also, is it just me or do we have a surprisingly high amount of Leader listings? UNI already has BW Tigerhawk, G1 Sandstorm, Armada Galvatron, and now mystery Soundwave, and there's still that mystery Evolution Optimus that we don't know the identity or release plan for either (which is part of why I keep speculating that Evolution might have 5 waves).
If anything I would think they would want to save Studio Series reveals for SDCC since we just had a summer theatrical release to capitalize on.
Leader Soundwave is very weird, because it's the only figure for next year we have a listing for that doesn't specify which iteration of the character it is (other than the Strongarm repack, but she didn't specify universe in her first listing either). Gears, Sureshot, Sandstorm, and Deluxe Optimus all say G1 in the listing, so the lack of it here is either a weird oversight, or it's like Animated Prowl just being listed as Prowl and it isn't actually G1 Soundwave (or it is a repack like y'all are thinking, but then there would be 2 G1 Soundwaves in Legacy and this listing would still be weird for not saying repack). For the sake of not getting my hopes up though, I'm just going to assume it'll be G1 Soundwave so I can't be disappointed if it isn't.
Also, is it just me or do we have a surprisingly high amount of Leader listings? UNI already has BW Tigerhawk, G1 Sandstorm, Armada Galvatron, and now mystery Soundwave, and there's still that mystery Evolution Optimus that we don't know the identity or release plan for either (which is part of why I keep speculating that Evolution might have 5 waves).
Also the pipeline reveals from the last stream were Legacy Wave 4, and both times they've done pipeline reveals thus far those reveals have been the meat of what was shown in the immediate next stream.Emerje wrote:Munkky wrote:Another Hasbro Pulse Transformers stream has been announced for 20th June at 4pm ET, this one promising both new Legacy and Rise of the Beasts reveals. At first I thought this would be revealing wave 4, but the wording of the announcement makes it sound like the focus will mostly be on Rise of the Beasts, so I'm guessing this stream will just announce more exclusives for Legacy instead, perhaps some Toxitron stuff, and wave 4 could be saved for SDCC or a similar event. Either way, I'm looking forward to a pre-order going up for Dreadwing.
I don't know, we've already seen leaks for four Evolution wave 4 figures now, they might want to get out ahead of the rest of them.
If anything I would think they would want to save Studio Series reveals for SDCC since we just had a summer theatrical release to capitalize on.
A Marvel-colored release of the Netflix Soundwave set was rumored/leaked as a exclusive alongside the first mention of the now-revealed Miner Megatron, we just don't know where/how it's potentially releasing unless it's part of the Comic 2-pack's currently-unknown contents.Gauntlet101010 wrote:What if it's Marvel Soundwave? With that shade of purple and the mouth?
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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Jun 15, 2023
that Leader Soundwave makes absolutely no sense.
Wave got a voyager in 2019, another voyager in 2021, a rerelease of the 2019 voyager just last year, and he got a Core release last in 2021.
He literally does not need another toy.
Like SS86 leader Springer, that just stinks of wasted leader slots for more G1 overkill trying to incrementally make toys look more like the cell shaded boxes of 40 years ago.
Wave got a voyager in 2019, another voyager in 2021, a rerelease of the 2019 voyager just last year, and he got a Core release last in 2021.
He literally does not need another toy.
Like SS86 leader Springer, that just stinks of wasted leader slots for more G1 overkill trying to incrementally make toys look more like the cell shaded boxes of 40 years ago.
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One very simple thing does make sense. Machine Wars Soundwave from Doubledealer. That mold hason't had a second use yet.
(Yeah, probably just wishful thinking.)
Comment by TF-fan kev777
Jun 15, 2023
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:that Leader Soundwave makes absolutely no sense.
One very simple thing does make sense. Machine Wars Soundwave from Doubledealer. That mold hason't had a second use yet.
(Yeah, probably just wishful thinking.)
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Comment by Emerje
Jun 15, 2023
We just got Siege Soundwave reissued in Legacy last year and recently Mark Maher basically confirmed a few live streams ago (in April?) that the next Soundwave would be a new mold that matches the same size as Blaster.
Emerje
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jun 15, 2023
Yeah, but when he said that, he was talking about Studio Series 86, not Legacy, which makes this listing even more odd.Emerje wrote:We just got Siege Soundwave reissued in Legacy last year and recently Mark Maher basically confirmed a few live streams ago (in April?) that the next Soundwave would be a new mold that matches the same size as Blaster.
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Comment by Overcracker
Jun 15, 2023
If I may…
Leader Soundwave may just be Netflix Soundwave whose exclusivity to Walmart has apparently expired, and will include all his tapes to bring the price up.
Not a new mold in legacy.
Alternatively, it may just be Cybertron Soundwave.
Leader Soundwave may just be Netflix Soundwave whose exclusivity to Walmart has apparently expired, and will include all his tapes to bring the price up.
Not a new mold in legacy.
Alternatively, it may just be Cybertron Soundwave.
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If THAT'S really the upcoming Soundwave, I will laugh my ass off, drink the tears of those who wanted a Netflix Soundwave reissue, and preorder the sht out of it!
Comment by -Kanrabat-
Jun 15, 2023
TF-fan kev777 wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:that Leader Soundwave makes absolutely no sense.
One very simple thing does make sense. Machine Wars Soundwave from Doubledealer. That mold hason't had a second use yet.
(Yeah, probably just wishful thinking.)
If THAT'S really the upcoming Soundwave, I will laugh my ass off, drink the tears of those who wanted a Netflix Soundwave reissue, and preorder the sht out of it!


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I actively hope that happens
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Jun 15, 2023
TF-fan kev777 wrote:One very simple thing does make sense. Machine Wars Soundwave from Doubledealer. That mold hason't had a second use yet.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:that Leader Soundwave makes absolutely no sense.
(Yeah, probably just wishful thinking.)
I actively hope that happens
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Comment by Rodimus Prime
Jun 15, 2023
Look what I found at my Wal-Mart:
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The many fans who never got the Netflix release would say he does.
Comment by william-james88
Jun 15, 2023
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
He literally does not need another toy.
The many fans who never got the Netflix release would say he does.