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william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:They also messed up with the Target exclusive smash and change white knight optimus prime (what a mouthful) which is supposed to also be on that list at number 28.

"White" =/= "Silver"

Give me a break, it's real early in the morning here.

What about last night?

Most of these figures really have no business being labeled "thrilling". IN MY OPINION of course.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:They also messed up with the Target exclusive smash and change white knight optimus prime (what a mouthful) which is supposed to also be on that list at number 28.

"White" =/= "Silver"

Give me a break, it's real early in the morning here.

What about last night?

Ha, there's a mom joke in there somewhere but I will be nice today.

Slashercon wrote:Most of these figures really have no business being labeled "thrilling". IN MY OPINION of course.

Like the 2 shockwave sets?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Wait, what? I thought #14 was AoE First Edition Optimus Prime!

Me too. It was a selling point of that FE mold, but that part of the Amazon description seems to have been struck from the record. The BB/Strafe/Stinger Walmart multipack might have had the logo, but I don't remember and totally threw my empty box for that set away.

william-james88 wrote:They also messed up with the Target exclusive smash and change white knight optimus prime (what a mouthful) which is supposed to also be on that list at number 28.

I'm pretty convinced that was a packaging mistake, but that's not technically wrong. They did two "#28"s.

what a poorly thought out list.

"Special 30th year list!"

"What's on it?"

"Whatever exclusives we had planned for that year anyway."

william-james88 wrote:

Slashercon wrote:Most of these figures really have no business being labeled "thrilling". IN MY OPINION of course.

Like the 2 shockwave sets?

Precisely. Same for the two Metroplexes.

The best releases were G1/FOC Grimlock, Metroplex, Jetfire, and MP Soundwave.

The rest were s h i t.

Oh, what could've been...the list is bad, there are 2 almost identical releases(which are exclusives, which makes them stupidly expensive), some are not so amazing toys and WHO THE HELL LET TARGET'S PAINTLESS KNIGHT ON THE LIST???(the one with Grimlock is how you do a SILVER kinght!)
Also, for a line that was supposed to celebrate the entire franchise, it's mosty AoE and Prime, with a few generations and MPs.
If they wanted to make it Thrilling, how about releasing a toy of each year? And if that proved too hard beacuse of lost/damaged moulds, they could have used other toys from near that year, or even not so great toys, as we have seen they didn't care about that here.
What baffles me the most is that they didn't rerelease G1 Optimus. Sure, there have been better Optimus toys since then, but come on! That toy is THE Transformers toy! And even if they have reissued it to death, it deserves it, and many of us have never been able to get one. I fully Understand G1 Megatron is off limits, but come on!
In my opinion, this line should've been the best of each year, or at least the best toys of each era.

^this

The mass retail Generations line itself was what celebrated the 30th anniversary, containing toys that paid tribute to G1 (both 1980's and IDW's new take), Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Robots in Disguise, Armada, and more.

The 30 special toys were just something that the fandom put more importance on than Hasbro did, making them seem far more significant than the lame gimmick they really were, which tends to be the case for most lame gimmicks Hasbro does.

If You want to see an amazing Thrilling 30, check out Philistter's Top 30 fan chosen Transformers Toys here:
http://transformers-universe.com/includ ... 30Toys.php

The Smash and Change Prime was definitely a mistake. The packaging for it reuses a lot of elements from the Leader version. Odds are, some random graphic designer at Hasbro forgot to remove it or accidentally pasted it in. They probably didn't really notice or care, since, hey, it's a $20 simplfied toy sold at Target.

MaverickPrime wrote:If You want to see an amazing Thrilling 30, check out Philistter's Top 30 fan chosen Transformers Toys here:
http://transformers-universe.com/includ ... 30Toys.php

Better than this list, but Springer as #1? I thought his mold brother Sandstorm was better.

He's good, but not that good.

shockblast2 wrote:

MaverickPrime wrote:If You want to see an amazing Thrilling 30, check out Philistter's Top 30 fan chosen Transformers Toys here:
http://transformers-universe.com/includ ... 30Toys.php

Better than this list, but Springer as #1? I thought his mold brother Sandstorm was better.

He's good, but not that good.

I suspect a lot of that list is due to recency affect, which is a normal bias. Springer won based on it being on the most lists, and at that time that figure is what everyone was talking about. It wasnt the best figure on most lists, but it was the most present figure on lists, hence it's number 1 spot. I am really surprised how low MP-10 is, considering everything. They tabulated that he would be number 2 if they counted all molds, which makes much more sense to me.

shockblast2 wrote:

MaverickPrime wrote:If You want to see an amazing Thrilling 30, check out Philistter's Top 30 fan chosen Transformers Toys here:
http://transformers-universe.com/includ ... 30Toys.php

Better than this list, but Springer as #1? I thought his mold brother Sandstorm was better.

He's good, but not that good.

I love that Sandstorm figure!

padfoo wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

MaverickPrime wrote:If You want to see an amazing Thrilling 30, check out Philistter's Top 30 fan chosen Transformers Toys here:
http://transformers-universe.com/includ ... 30Toys.php

Better than this list, but Springer as #1? I thought his mold brother Sandstorm was better.

He's good, but not that good.

I love that Sandstorm figure!

MP Soundwave's better than springer

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The one thing that is genuinely "thrilling" about this list is the sheer amount of toys on it. I mean, how often do we get a whopping 30 exclusives/special toys as opposed to ordinary toys?

Sabrblade wrote:The one thing that is genuinely "thrilling" about this list is the sheer amount of toys on it. I mean, how often do we get a whopping 30 exclusives/special toys as opposed to ordinary toys?

There are some that are just laughable:

- Metroplex and Shockwave double on the list. The only changes are the little figures in the sets, nothing else.
- Beast Hunter Optimus Prime. Just a special box is not enough to make it special, the toy is unchanged from the retail version. Meh, MISB collectors will appreciate it, but not me.

Personally, the whole line went very much under the radar for me, and was never that appealing in the first place.

I do wonder how much thought Hasbro marketing put into it, and whether it was more of a later label slapped onto some figures. The only ones that really made sense were Metroplex and Windblade, in the current celebration of 30 years of Transformers. More updates to older characters would have fit more, but that's what MPs are for, really.

Huh, just rambling my fingers off here.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:The one thing that is genuinely "thrilling" about this list is the sheer amount of toys on it. I mean, how often do we get a whopping 30 exclusives/special toys as opposed to ordinary toys?

There are some that are just laughable:

- Metroplex and Shockwave double on the list. The only changes are the little figures in the sets, nothing else.
- Beast Hunter Optimus Prime. Just a special box is not enough to make it special, the toy is unchanged from the retail version. Meh, MISB collectors will appreciate it, but not me.

Never said all of the toys themselves were good, just that the sheer volume of them is what was impressive.

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:The one thing that is genuinely "thrilling" about this list is the sheer amount of toys on it. I mean, how often do we get a whopping 30 exclusives/special toys as opposed to ordinary toys?

There are some that are just laughable:

- Metroplex and Shockwave double on the list. The only changes are the little figures in the sets, nothing else.
- Beast Hunter Optimus Prime. Just a special box is not enough to make it special, the toy is unchanged from the retail version. Meh, MISB collectors will appreciate it, but not me.

Never said all of the toys themselves were good, just that the sheer volume of them is what was impressive.

I'll agree with you there. Just stating my sentiments that at least the ones I listed were unnecessary, and better choices could have been made.

The number of exclusives may look large, but you can remove the two doubles along with the retailer exclusives which are still mass market releases, and the list no longer becomes too staggering.

I personally find Leader Jetfire to be the champion of that list as he is the bigggest mass release homage released this year and is an awesome example of how interesting the various roots for these toys are.

But like someone said, the thrilling 30 line in the generations series made up for this with G1, Beast Wars and Armada coming together (with Jetfire also championing the line).