The Energon Pub

Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:29 pm

I didn't start collecting CHUG stuff actively until Titans Return came out (TR Hot Rod was my gateway figure), so I missed the boat on Combiner Wars. The prices of the limb robots on eBay... Urgh. Just.. urgh.

News Credits: 1350 · Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:31 pm

I try not to think about those prices, the worse thing is knowing that people must pay those prices for people to charge them.

Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:19 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:I try not to think about those prices, the worse thing is knowing that people must pay those prices for people to charge them.

It makes me grateful for bootlegs. And it's also why 3 of my Menasor's limbs are actually repainted Autobots - I was able to get them for cheaper on forums.

News Credits: 1 · Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:24 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Actually, it turns out that UW Motormaster seems to have Gold/Metallic Plastic Syndrome in his waist.

Indeed he does... too bad.

And I'm very much interested in that list. I'm still trying to figure out who to pair with an eventual Inferno + Legends Groove and Alpha Bravo

Wait, what?

...

Damn it! There really was no point in going for the UW versions. I guess it's better to find this out now before my own Motormaster dies and it's even worse replacing it...

Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:04 pm

There was still a point with UW Computron (Hasbro's Technobots suck), and UW Superion at least has a better deco than CW Superion.

News Credits: 241 · Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:33 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:There was still a point with UW Computron (Hasbro's Technobots suck), and UW Superion at least has a better deco than CW Superion.

Not to mention UW Lynx Master having Ratchet instead of Smokescreen. Can a case be made for UW Megatronia vs. CW Victorion?

News Credits: 19 · Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:08 pm

I'm after the UW stunticons at some point, at least the cab looks right in vehicle mode and the cars have the correct color panels that don't look like eyesores.
I was okay with the hasbro techno bots mainly because it was cheaper and included the repainted cosmos.

News Credits: 22 · Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:37 pm

I moved to a new place last summer and my CW figures have been boxed up ever since. Reading through this thread is making me want to break them out and mess around with them. :lol:

Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:59 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:There was still a point with UW Computron (Hasbro's Technobots suck), and UW Superion at least has a better deco than CW Superion.

Not to mention UW Lynx Master having Ratchet instead of Smokescreen. Can a case be made for UW Megatronia vs. CW Victorion?

1. Who cares about that tho?

2. Nah, those are outright different characters.

blackeyedprime wrote:I'm after the UW stunticons at some point, at least the cab looks right in vehicle mode and the cars have the correct color panels that don't look like eyesores.

But that's the only mode the cab looks right in, and UW Drag Strip is bland AF. Hasbro made the right call making Motormaster a gray cab for CW rather than black, because this time around Motormaster is made entirely of the cab. The G1 figure had a black cab, but the cab only formed the feet. The robot and torso modes were formed from the gray trailer.

News Credits: 19 · Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:29 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:I'm after the UW stunticons at some point, at least the cab looks right in vehicle mode and the cars have the correct color panels that don't look like eyesores.
But that's the only mode the cab looks right in, and UW Drag Strip is bland AF. Hasbro made the right call making Motormaster a gray cab for CW rather than black, because this time around Motormaster is made entirely of the cab. The G1 figure had a black cab, but the cab only formed the feet. The robot and torso modes were formed from the gray trailer.

I'm okay with that as I have the hasbro one for his other modes and a spare dragstrip makes for a repaint to Starscream armada minicon for potp Starscream. Just wish they hadn't carried the mismatched panels over into selects and siege (ricochet, sideswipe). If I had to choose one it would be UW for 4 out of 5 figures having correct vehicles but the GPS is kind of off putting. I got the hasbro version just for availability and price £80 (it was easier to buy 2nd hand complete rather than trying and paying the price on a motormaster which is/was? expensive over here at £40+ back then)

News Credits: 1350 · Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:09 am

blackeyedprime wrote:A spare dragstrip makes for a repaint to Starscream armada minicon for potp Starscream

That is a fantastic idea.

Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:14 am

I still favor Hydra and Buster for him </broken record>

Although speaking of Drag Strip... I think a radical reshelling of him would have made for a better Dreadwind than using Skydive.

News Credits: 1350 · Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:28 am

I don't think you'll ever get that Hydra and Buster outside of customs :lol:

Wonder if they ever had plans for a couple more cons to go with him if potp wasn't cut short

News Credits: 22 · Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:31 am

I think he was referring to the deluxe figures of Blackwing and Dreadwind that we did get.

Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:48 am

ZeroWolf wrote:I don't think you'll ever get that Hydra and Buster outside of customs Wonder if they ever had plans for a couple more cons to go with him if potp wasn't cut short

Well, it's not like that Armada Swindle that blackeyedprime was proposing wouldn't be a custom

I'm pretty sure that Hasbro didn't have plans for any more 'Cons to go with PotP Starscream. Hun-Gurrr and Grimlock are the only PotP torso bots released who had a solid team planned at the time. The 'Cons I think we would have gotten if PotP wasn't cut short? Are the Seacons. Not as flashy as the Selects versions, but the Seacons all the same.
Hydra and Buster, I think would only ever be LGEX or Selects.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I think he was referring to the deluxe figures of Blackwing and Dreadwind that we did get.

No, I was talking about favoring Hydra and Buster to complete PotP Starscream's limb set since they would perfectly match Blackwing and Dreadwind.

News Credits: 22 · Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:53 am

Aren't Hydra and Buster just the Japanese versions of Dreadwind and Darkwing?

News Credits: 1350 · Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:03 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:Aren't Hydra and Buster just the Japanese versions of Dreadwind and Darkwing?

Yup, there is some colour differences if I recall correctly, but it's been a while since I've seen Masterforce.

Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:17 am

ZeroWolf wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Aren't Hydra and Buster just the Japanese versions of Dreadwind and Darkwing?

Yup, there is some colour differences if I recall correctly, but it's been a while since I've seen Masterforce.

Hydra and Buster are red where Darkwing and Dreadwind are turquoise:

News Credits: 1350 · Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:21 am

Ah yes, thank you, it even trickles down to the power masters because of the gang molding.

Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:43 am

You know... I wonder how many Energon combiner team members could be made by retooling/reshelling existing molds, and how many would take new molds to look right.

News Credits: 2 · Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:16 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:There was still a point with UW Computron (Hasbro's Technobots suck), and UW Superion at least has a better deco than CW Superion.

I love my UW Superion, still trying to find an Alpha Bravo, because why not, Burn?

News Credits: 56 · Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:25 pm

Here is my complete List:

Autobots:
1. UW-01 Superion
2. UW-03 Defensor
3. UW-05 Convoy Grand Prime
4. UW-08 Computron
5. UW-EX Lynx Master
6. CW Victorion
7. CW “Betatron” (Composed of CW Computron)
8. CW “Optimus Maximus” (Composed of Battle Core Optimus Prime, Alpha Bravo, Botcon 2016 Marvel Comics Ratchet, Smokescreen, and Select Series Swoop)
9. CW TFSS 5.0 Wreckage
10. Magnaboss
11. Volcanicus
12. Inferno * (Inferno, Jazz, Wreck-Gar, Ricochet & ????)
13. Orthia
14. G2 Superion
15. Modulus (CW Individual Release Scattershot, Rook, TFSS 5.0 SG Starscream, Botcon 2016 Medix, Botcon 2016 G2 Ratchet)

Decepticons:
1. UW-02 Menasor
2. UW-04 Devastator
3. UW-06 Grand Galvatron
4. UW-07 Bruticus
5. UW-EX “Grand Scourge” (Composed of Grand Scourge, Offroad, CW Blastoff, CW Vortex, and Botcon 2016 SG Ratchet)
6. CW BC 2016 Dawn of Predacus
7. CW TFSS 4.0 Thunder Mayhem
8. CW LioKaiser
9. UW-EX Megatronia
10. UW-EX Baldigus
11. Abominus
12. Starscream
13. Predaking
14. G2 Menasor
15. G2 Bruticus

Sixth Members:
Autobots:
1. Legends Powerglide
2. Legends Groove
3. Legends Rodimus
4. T30 Cosmos
5. Legends Wreck Gar
6. Legends Rust Dust
7. Legends Scrounge
8. Legends Pipes
9. Legends Huffer
10. Legends Windcharger
11. Legends Slash
12. TAV Override
13. TAV Dogfight
14. G2 Powerglide
15. ???

Decepticons:
1. Legends Black Jack
2. N/A Devastator Already has 6
3. TAV Runamuck
4. Legends Shockwave
5. TAV Runabout
6. Legends Bombshell
7. Legends Viper
8. Legends Ion Scythe
9. Legends Reflector (1)
10. Legends Reflector (2)
11. Legends Cindersaur
12. Legends Reflector (3)
13 N/A Predaking is Titan Size
14. G2 Blackjack
15. G2 Shockwave

Missing Items:
Botcon 2016 Build-a-figure Marvel Comics Ratchet
Botcon 2016 Build-a-figure G2 Ratchet
Botcon 2016 Build-a-figure Shattered Glass Ratchet
Botcon 2016 Build-a-figure Medix
Botcon 2016 Flash Sentry

News Credits: 19 · Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:54 pm

Nice list, would really like to get predacus and thunder mayhem but what little sanity I have is stopping me from paying for them. I can't remember which scatters shot torso I'm using on random limbs, the hasbro box set or single release. Galvatronus stays separated in the separate bits so roller can hang with the autobot and hasbro cyclonus is missing his combiner noggin with it being used on tr galvatron. Might sell my skylynx and his friends and put that towards earthrise skylynx.

News Credits: 241 · Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:46 pm

blackeyedprime wrote:Might sell my skylynx and his friends and put that towards earthrise skylynx.

How are the joints on yours? I've read that Hasbro Sky Lynx is... quite loose in places, maybe rushed new-mold symptoms like Brawl.

Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:02 pm

CW-related photos I think need to be taken:
* CW or UW Menasor tussling with Cybertron Menasor
* Computron and Volcanicus ganging up on Abominus.

Here's my list:

Autobots:
* CW Silverbolt (no other Aerialbots)
* Volcanicus
* Orthia (with Jazz subbing for Greenlight until I get her)
* Optimus Prime, but I don't usually use him as a torso.

Decepticons:
* Menasor (Consisting of CW Motormaster, CW Dead End, Drag Strip repainted from Mirage, Wildrider repainted from Smokescreen, Breakdown repainted from Sunstreaker, and Legends Blackjack)
* Abominus
* Starscream (with Dreadwind and Blackwing standing by to be limbs)