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News Credits: 3 · by **Kibble** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:33 pm

Is this the reason Cliffjumper's price has gone through the friggin' roof of late? I supposedly bought one through the BTS forum at TFW two months ago, but dude stiffed me so I had to file a paypal dispute and since then the damn thing has jumped to 40+ dollars! I really hope Takara releases this guy in the not too distant future...especially without the lame silver deco.

by **Rodimus the Prime** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:27 am

I definitely want this!! It looks fantastic! (Now I just need to find a Cliffjumper :lol:

) Does anyone know if the usual internet stores (i.e. BBTS, TFSource etc.) will carry this set? (Totally new to buying 3rd party stuff, so please pardon any noobishness on my part :grin:

)

by **NTESHFT** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:10 pm

I'm getting this mostly because my Cliffjumpers face wasn't painted. I do like it, but wish the guns were black.....

Website · by **Flux Convoy** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:51 pm

I'd really like some solid info on this set. Maybe even some interaction from the creator if he's seeing comments that is. I know my Cliffjumper has lived this long without a new noggin but I'm feeling anxious about this. Heh.

:EDIT:
Not even 5 minutes after posting this, TFSource lists their pre-orders. :lol:

http://www.tfsource.com/products/view/product_id/2266/

News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:09 pm

Looking to upgrade your Classics Cliffjumper, but don't want to take out a second mortgage to afford the FansProject set? Site sponsor TFsource has a more affordable option. The Classics Cliffjumper - Devil Horns - Custom Kit is now available for preorder!

This great custom upgrade kit includes everything you will need to upgrade your Classics Cliffjumper! Included is an all new head sculpt, and two guns: A Hand-Held Beam Cannon and a Special Function Laser Gun!

All parts of this product are made from ABS material,the eyes of the head sculpt are transparent blue and are made from PC material.

by **Naked Magnus** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:52 pm

I have been trying to preorder this thing but TFSource says my zipcode is invalid. That can't be true because I ordered Universe Grapple from them this very morning using the exact same payment information!!!!

Is anyone else having a problem preodering this thing??

News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:59 pm

Naked Magnus wrote:I have been trying to preorder this thing but TFSource says my zipcode is invalid. That can't be true because I ordered Universe Grapple from them this very morning using the exact same payment information!!!!

Is anyone else having a problem preodering this thing??

Same here, glad it's not just me.

Website · by **Flux Convoy** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:19 pm

I was having that problem too but I forgot I wanted to add the Kup head to my order. Once I did that, I had no issue. I can imagine you guys don't want to have to buy an extra item though. Also, shouldn't I get the news cred for this or at least shared credit?

News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:37 pm

Flux Convoy wrote:I was having that problem too but I forgot I wanted to add the Kup head to my order. Once I did that, I had no issue. I can imagine you guys don't want to have to buy an extra item though. Also, shouldn't I get the news cred for this or at least shared credit?

In the words of Optimus Prime, "My bad".

Credit given.

Website · by **Flux Convoy** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:55 pm

No problem. Did you guys get it sorted out?

News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:59 pm

Flux Convoy wrote:No problem. Did you guys get it sorted out?

I haven't tried again yet.

by **Court Jester** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:31 pm

I have faith in Venksta. I'm sure Cliffjumper will be able to tow any included weapons (transformable cannon would be epic) on the bot mode jetpack/alt mode wavecrusher. In line with all the other stuff Venksta does, the head will be classictastic. On topic: Not bad for an initial product. Really just wish it came in a plastic bag and cost 15.00 - honestly, $20+ and shipping on top of that... so really - $30 for a three piece (two small one medium) add-on kit for a deluxe? Kinda steep, Devildood...

by **Rated X** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:17 pm

I hope Hasbro just reissues cliffjumper without the stupid white graphics and the WFC head so people dont even have to deal with this drama.

Also, dont you hate these little b***hes who triple the price of a retail item when a 3rd party accessory comes out ??? I like to take the person who invented that idea and slap him in the face. STRAIGHT UP. :evil:

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:18 pm

If it comes to BBTS, sure, I'll get it.

News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:38 am

The preorder seems to be working now, just placed an order.

by **NTESHFT** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:21 pm

Mkall wrote:If it comes to BBTS, sure, I'll get it.

Same here, in which I'm pretty sure they will......

by **Pr1meSuspect** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:15 am

Why would I by this? For the head mold, which is about it. His guns are that dull toned grey and are so unapealing. At least the Fansproject's had nice black guns, a spoiler to differentiate Cliff and Bumblebee's alt modes, and a nice head mold. So who would pick this set over Fansproject's?

by **Court Jester** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:12 am

Pr1meSuspect wrote:Why would I by this?

Your arguments are dead on. I would submit that it's more about availability and price than anything else. We must also remember that the FansProject 300 limited run was a garage kit made out of hardened resin opposed to plastic (not to mention one must superglue the alt mode kit parts to the figure). I would prefer those kind of parts like the spoiler and front accent kit to be snap on - allowing for resale/trade of the original figure. I think Renderform's Venksta might be on to this - not to mention a few extras that might follow the engineering gimmicks of other transforming toy add-on manufacturers. I buy transforming 3rd party add-ons at a premium price because they are inspired by the facet of the transforming gimmick. Artwork on packaging and insert trays are nice, but if it tacks on an extra 5 bucks and possibly more on the shipping - I'd prefer cheaper packaging and lower shipping rates. This Devil Horns Kit is great for those wanting a minor upgrade to the Cliffjumper character in the classics aesthetic. I would prefer at least some kind of transformation in the weapons, if I'm dropping more than $20 on a few pieces of plastic. This is what makes/made FansProject's Sidearm so successful - price, aesthetic, and gimmick.

News Credits: 3 · by **Kibble** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:18 am

Pr1meSuspect wrote:So who would pick this set over Fansproject's?

FPs set for $300 or so vs. this set for about $20? Count me as one that would choose the latter. All things being equal? Sure, gimme the FP set...but that's not really an option at this point.

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:10 pm

Kibble wrote:
Pr1meSuspect wrote:So who would pick this set over Fansproject's?

FPs set for $300 or so vs. this set for about $20? Count me as one that would choose the latter. All things being equal? Sure, gimme the FP set...but that's not really an option at this point.

I agree. Though some of us should go together, group buy the FP set and repro it for cheap prices. We'd make our investment back, and fast.

Website · by **Flux Convoy** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:36 pm

Autobot032 wrote:
Kibble wrote:
Pr1meSuspect wrote:So who would pick this set over Fansproject's?

FPs set for $300 or so vs. this set for about $20? Count me as one that would choose the latter. All things being equal? Sure, gimme the FP set...but that's not really an option at this point.

I agree. Though some of us should go together, group buy the FP set and repro it for cheap prices. We'd make our investment back, and fast.

It's been repro'd to ill effect. It looks like carved Velveeta. Honestly, after doing some info searches and reading reviews of the FansProject kit, I was disappointed but relieved by what I read. Apparently, the paint can be pretty fragile. This new one looks like molded plastic rather than paint. Sure, I'd like some of the other upgrade bits from the FP set too but this one will certainly work for me at this cost. I really only require the new head, so this works. The weapons are a nice bonus despite my wish that they were black.

News Credits: 7 · by **Geekee1** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:16 pm

I am a proud owner of the FP Cliffjumper kit. It is not the same quality that we are used to from City Commander and up. That said it is a pretty unique piece and I am very glad to have it.

This kit is a more than serviceable upgrade to Cliffjumper. It looks to be of quite good quality, and does it's job of differentiating CJ from BB. And I would not at all be hesitant to hit those guns with a quick coat of a good quality black spray paint. This appears to be a great alternative for those without the $300 for the FP kit, and no shame in having this as opposed to the FP one.

News Credits: 3 · by **bvzxa** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:58 pm

Now If I can fin CJ for a reasonable price.

by **NTESHFT** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:27 pm

What would be the best paint to use in reproing the guns? I'm definitely getting this set.

If I could afford the FP kit, I would so get it. Was $300 the original price for it?

News Credits: 7 · by **Geekee1** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:34 pm

headsortails wrote:What would be the best paint to use in reproing the guns? I'm definitely getting this set.

If I could afford the FP kit, I would so get it. Was $300 the original price for it?

I would think that krylon fusion would work well. The FP kit was originally $30 through TFclub. The problem was that most people on these forums can't read the site so it was difficult to order. The price seemed to go up by $10 a week for a while. By the time I figured out how to get one it was up to $90. It continued to go up for another couple weeks and then sold out.