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Postby megatroptimus » Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:07 pm

Wasn't talking to you. It's fact that as a whole, Americans love to complain and made a sport out of being perceived as victims. There's even a song by the Proclaimers about that ("Everybody's a victim").
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Postby megatroptimus » Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:09 pm

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I researched a good, informational web site that will help you learn how to debate your points. Recommended reading:
http://www.truthtree.com/debates.shtml


Sorry man, but that's gay.
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Postby Lapse Of Reason » Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:11 pm

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I researched a good, informational web site that will help you learn how to debate your points. Recommended reading:
http://www.truthtree.com/debates.shtml


Sorry man, but that's gay.


I rest my case. Thanks for illustrating my point.

I have spoken my piece on this issue with you, and I was just trying to promote good discussion. I will say no more about it to you, since I agree with the "no trolling and baiting" rule of these boards and I don't want to carry this on anymore. I stand by my previous comments on the issue and my reading recommendation.

Please at least refrain from making broad generalizations. It is not a "fact" that Americans as a whole think the way you categorized them. It is your "opinion". Using precise language is mentioned in the site I recommended.
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Postby Lapse Of Reason » Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:12 pm

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Postby megatroptimus » Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:21 pm

Never mind as well.
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Postby Blurrz » Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:03 pm

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Postby Ninja Sixshot » Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:08 pm

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Postby wavelength » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:24 pm

well america, you now have rest-of-the-world-itis. you now pay a bigger fraction that the rest of the world has to. now if my £20 a week was earned in america, instead of being able to just about afford a voyager per week, i would be able to get a leader. i hereby challenge any american to come to britain, and buy every figure in seibertrons movie gallery withh the same ammount of money that woulds be spent on the same figures in the us. first, you would not get over 3/8ths of the figures in solid brickstores, and even if you could find them all in one magical super special store that does not and never will exist, you would run out of money even sooner. grow up america, and pass some decent legestlation for once and ban your companies from assraping the foreign markets, or charge proportinally the same price all around.

and also, if i know my history right, you were probaly all up in ams when hasbro announced that basic figures were going to be 7 dollars instead of 5, deluxes 10 instead of 8, megas 20 instead of 15, and supers 40 instead of 30 dollars.

wake up and smell the cowpat america that are the prices your companies charge the foreign markets america. and there is no way that 19% import tax adds 10 euros ontop of a price.
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Postby Dead Metal » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:17 pm

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wavelength wrote:well america, you now have rest-of-the-world-itis. you now pay a bigger fraction that the rest of the world has to. now if my £20 a week was earned in america, instead of being able to just about afford a voyager per week, i would be able to get a leader. i hereby challenge any american to come to britain, and buy every figure in seibertrons movie gallery withh the same ammount of money that woulds be spent on the same figures in the us. first, you would not get over 3/8ths of the figures in solid brickstores, and even if you could find them all in one magical super special store that does not and never will exist, you would run out of money even sooner. grow up america, and pass some decent legestlation for once and ban your companies from assraping the foreign markets, or charge proportinally the same price all around.

and also, if i know my history right, you were probaly all up in ams when hasbro announced that basic figures were going to be 7 dollars instead of 5, deluxes 10 instead of 8, megas 20 instead of 15, and supers 40 instead of 30 dollars.

wake up and smell the cowpat america that are the prices your companies charge the foreign markets america. and there is no way that 19% import tax adds 10 euros ontop of a price.


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Postby Lapse Of Reason » Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:32 pm

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wavelength wrote:well america, you now have rest-of-the-world-itis. you now pay a bigger fraction that the rest of the world has to.


Not quite understanding you here. I thought you said people outside America were paying more. Now you say America pays a bigger fraction :-? ???

wavelength wrote:now if my £20 a week was earned in america, instead of being able to just about afford a voyager per week, i would be able to get a leader. i hereby challenge any american to come to britain, and buy every figure in seibertrons movie gallery withh the same ammount of money that woulds be spent on the same figures in the us. first, you would not get over 3/8ths of the figures in solid brickstores, and even if you could find them all in one magical super special store that does not and never will exist, you would run out of money even sooner.


Here in America, we do not get all of the toy releases from foreign markets in our stores either. This is not America's fault.

wavelength wrote:grow up america, and pass some decent legestlation for once and ban your companies from assraping the foreign markets, or charge proportinally the same price all around.


Will you, or someone, please show me the proof that it is HASBRO that is marking the toys up for the foreign market. i'd like to see just who is getting the difference. Is it the importer? The manufacturer? The store? Your country through taxes? I don't want a guess or speculation. I want proof that shows Hasbro charges X amount here and Y amount there.

wavelength wrote:and also, if i know my history right, you were probaly all up in ams when hasbro announced that basic figures were going to be 7 dollars instead of 5, deluxes 10 instead of 8, megas 20 instead of 15, and supers 40 instead of 30 dollars.
.

Not me. A few dollars does not stop me from getting what I want.

wavelength wrote:wake up and smell the cowpat america that are the prices your companies charge the foreign markets america. and there is no way that 19% import tax adds 10 euros ontop of a price.


Like I said above, show me proof that it is Hasbro that is collecting more money rather than some other entity or entities. Besides, a company can charge whatever it wants for a product. Laws are not meant to price fix toys.



I understand that other countries do not get the same variety of product at the same prices as in the USA. I understand your frustration.

One think I am tired of is the blaming of Americans for your frustrations. I am an American and it is not my fault. Why should I have to smell your "cowpat"? It may not even be Hasbro's fault. I'm sure you have stuff there that I can not buy here for the same price you pay. I am ok with that, and understand thatif I want to buy something imported, I am going to have to pay more.
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Postby Dead Metal » Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:39 pm

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Lapse Of Reason wrote:One think I am tired of is the blaming of Americans for your frustrations. I am an American and it is not my fault. Why should I have to smell your "cowpat"? It may not even be Hasbro's fault. I'm sure you have stuff there that I can not buy here for the same price you pay. I am ok with that, and understand thatif I want to buy something imported, I am going to have to pay more.


I don't blame nobody ather then Hasbto!
Hasbro gives a price tag on it's website, also retailers get a letter with the boxes from hasbro, teling them how much they shuld sell them for, I have seen one before!

Also, during Armada a deluxe cost 10 euros, that was at a time as the euro was weeker then the dolar, now the TF are back with a higer price tag, WTF?!
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Postby wavelength » Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:55 pm

Lapse Of Reason wrote:
wavelength wrote:well america, you now have rest-of-the-world-itis. you now pay a bigger fraction that the rest of the world has to.


Not quite understanding you here. I thought you said people outside America were paying more. Now you say America pays a bigger fraction :-? ???

wavelength wrote:now if my £20 a week was earned in america, instead of being able to just about afford a voyager per week, i would be able to get a leader. i hereby challenge any american to come to britain, and buy every figure in seibertrons movie gallery withh the same ammount of money that woulds be spent on the same figures in the us. first, you would not get over 3/8ths of the figures in solid brickstores, and even if you could find them all in one magical super special store that does not and never will exist, you would run out of money even sooner.


Here in America, we do not get all of the toy releases from foreign markets in our stores either. This is not America's fault.

wavelength wrote:grow up america, and pass some decent legestlation for once and ban your companies from assraping the foreign markets, or charge proportinally the same price all around.


Will you, or someone, please show me the proof that it is HASBRO that is marking the toys up for the foreign market. i'd like to see just who is getting the difference. Is it the importer? The manufacturer? The store? Your country through taxes? I don't want a guess or speculation. I want proof that shows Hasbro charges X amount here and Y amount there.

wavelength wrote:and also, if i know my history right, you were probaly all up in ams when hasbro announced that basic figures were going to be 7 dollars instead of 5, deluxes 10 instead of 8, megas 20 instead of 15, and supers 40 instead of 30 dollars.
.

Not me. A few dollars does not stop me from getting what I want.

wavelength wrote:wake up and smell the cowpat america that are the prices your companies charge the foreign markets america. and there is no way that 19% import tax adds 10 euros ontop of a price.


Like I said above, show me proof that it is Hasbro that is collecting more money rather than some other entity or entities. Besides, a company can charge whatever it wants for a product. Laws are not meant to price fix toys.



I understand that other countries do not get the same variety of product at the same prices as in the USA. I understand your frustration.

One think I am tired of is the blaming of Americans for your frustrations. I am an American and it is not my fault. Why should I have to smell your "cowpat"? It may not even be Hasbro's fault. I'm sure you have stuff there that I can not buy here for the same price you pay. I am ok with that, and understand thatif I want to buy something imported, I am going to have to pay more.

bah! i am grumpy and havebiology with a teacher who hates every student at school tommorrow. let me be slightly irrational with a hint of facts and sense mixed in please
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Postby Lapse Of Reason » Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:22 pm

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Lapse Of Reason wrote:One think I am tired of is the blaming of Americans for your frustrations. I am an American and it is not my fault. Why should I have to smell your "cowpat"? It may not even be Hasbro's fault. I'm sure you have stuff there that I can not buy here for the same price you pay. I am ok with that, and understand thatif I want to buy something imported, I am going to have to pay more.


I don't blame nobody ather then Hasbto!
Hasbro gives a price tag on it's website, also retailers get a letter with the boxes from hasbro, teling them how much they shuld sell them for, I have seen one before!

Also, during Armada a deluxe cost 10 euros, that was at a time as the euro was weeker then the dolar, now the TF are back with a higer price tag, WTF?!


It seems that you have a love/hate relationship with Hasbro. You love what they make, but hate what they charge :)

I'd like to see a link to a page with Hasbro's suggested retail price for foreign markets. Can anyone produce this proof?
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Postby Calenatarion » Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:40 pm

Lapse Of Reason wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
Lapse Of Reason wrote:One think I am tired of is the blaming of Americans for your frustrations. I am an American and it is not my fault. Why should I have to smell your "cowpat"? It may not even be Hasbro's fault. I'm sure you have stuff there that I can not buy here for the same price you pay. I am ok with that, and understand thatif I want to buy something imported, I am going to have to pay more.


I don't blame nobody ather then Hasbto!
Hasbro gives a price tag on it's website, also retailers get a letter with the boxes from hasbro, teling them how much they shuld sell them for, I have seen one before!

Also, during Armada a deluxe cost 10 euros, that was at a time as the euro was weeker then the dolar, now the TF are back with a higer price tag, WTF?!


It seems that you have a love/hate relationship with Hasbro. You love what they make, but hate what they charge :)


Me too, often they are pretty expensive. (but Takara was even more expensive)
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Postby Auto Bot » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:46 am

Lapse Of Reason wrote:
wavelength wrote:well america, you now have rest-of-the-world-itis. you now pay a bigger fraction that the rest of the world has to.


Not quite understanding you here. I thought you said people outside America were paying more. Now you say America pays a bigger fraction :-? ???



TF prices in Asia are usually around 30% to 50% higher.
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Postby Dead Metal » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:54 am

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Lapse Of Reason wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
Lapse Of Reason wrote:One think I am tired of is the blaming of Americans for your frustrations. I am an American and it is not my fault. Why should I have to smell your "cowpat"? It may not even be Hasbro's fault. I'm sure you have stuff there that I can not buy here for the same price you pay. I am ok with that, and understand thatif I want to buy something imported, I am going to have to pay more.


I don't blame nobody ather then Hasbto!
Hasbro gives a price tag on it's website, also retailers get a letter with the boxes from hasbro, teling them how much they shuld sell them for, I have seen one before!

Also, during Armada a deluxe cost 10 euros, that was at a time as the euro was weeker then the dolar, now the TF are back with a higer price tag, WTF?!


It seems that you have a love/hate relationship with Hasbro. You love what they make, but hate what they charge :)

I'd like to see a link to a page with Hasbro's suggested retail price for foreign markets. Can anyone produce this proof?

http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/de_D ... t_id=19504
And I have never seen them as lowas that in any store!
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Postby Auto Bot » Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:29 am

Dead Metal wrote:
Lapse Of Reason wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
Lapse Of Reason wrote:One think I am tired of is the blaming of Americans for your frustrations. I am an American and it is not my fault. Why should I have to smell your "cowpat"? It may not even be Hasbro's fault. I'm sure you have stuff there that I can not buy here for the same price you pay. I am ok with that, and understand thatif I want to buy something imported, I am going to have to pay more.


I don't blame nobody ather then Hasbto!
Hasbro gives a price tag on it's website, also retailers get a letter with the boxes from hasbro, teling them how much they shuld sell them for, I have seen one before!

Also, during Armada a deluxe cost 10 euros, that was at a time as the euro was weeker then the dolar, now the TF are back with a higer price tag, WTF?!


It seems that you have a love/hate relationship with Hasbro. You love what they make, but hate what they charge :)

I'd like to see a link to a page with Hasbro's suggested retail price for foreign markets. Can anyone produce this proof?

http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/de_D ... t_id=19504
And I have never seen them as lowas that in any store!


Even the official price is high!
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