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I am quite confused over the different arcee bikes in offer.

Is the human alliance arcee (with SKids HA) and future Chromia (with Mudflap HA) similar in size and design to those in the deluxe line? Help please to clear the confusion.

Before I clear this up: HA Arcee is actually Chromia in Arcee's colors. The reverse is true for HA Chromia, even though the model bikes are correct...

The Deluxe and HA bikes are completely different in overall design, and transformation. The HA bikes are about Scout Class and heavily simplified when compared with the Deluxes. One final thing: the HA bikes will not be able to combine, the regular Deluxe bikes will.

Here's some links:

Deluxe Arcee gallery
HA Arcee gallery

^That. Also the HA Arcee seems to have a pretty badly colored face or lack of. Prob bc the main focus is on HA Skids and not so much on HA Arcee. They are two different versions.

The deluxe ones looks more realistic and have more cool elements to their look and transformation.
The HA bikes are probably more fun if you just want a simple easy transformation... however, if that were the case, you likely wouldn't be buying a HA toy to begin with.
Personally, I intend on getting both.

hpfabe wrote:The deluxe ones looks more realistic and have more cool elements to their look and transformation.
The HA bikes are probably more fun if you just want a simple easy transformation... however, if that were the case, you likely wouldn't be buying a HA toy to begin with.
Personally, I intend on getting both.

I just have to say that ROTF Deluxe Arcee has one of the worst transformation of the line, I hate to transform it a second time. Not to mention the damn hips just aren't so poseable.

shonenfan4 wrote:

hpfabe wrote:The deluxe ones looks more realistic and have more cool elements to their look and transformation.
The HA bikes are probably more fun if you just want a simple easy transformation... however, if that were the case, you likely wouldn't be buying a HA toy to begin with.
Personally, I intend on getting both.

I just have to say that ROTF Deluxe Arcee has one of the worst transformation of the line, I hate to transform it a second time. Not to mention the damn hips just aren't so poseable.

That's because everything just kind of randomly folds, as opposed to snapping into a logical place. Deluxe Sideswipe is my favorite as far as being fun to transform, but I have to say I really love the little Legends class figures.

This is pretty much a Happy Meal/Crackerjack situation, where you're buying something for the item that comes with it.

IMO, the HA Arcee fig is nothing to shout about, other than its ability to let Mikaela ride on it in alt mode.

Personally, I buy HA's for the main figure, not the bonus one that comes with it.

If you want the best available representation of the bike sisters in toy form, get the deluxe versions. While the HA humans can't ride them, they do look much better than the bonus HA ones in terms of detail. Arcee deluxe incarnation may be a mangled mess in bot mode, but IMO it's still better than the HA one.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:This is pretty much a Happy Meal/Crackerjack situation, where you're buying something for the item that comes with it.

IMO, the HA Arcee fig is nothing to shout about, other than its ability to let Mikaela ride on it in alt mode.

Personally, I buy HA's for the main figure, not the bonus one that comes with it.

If you want the best available representation of the bike sisters in toy form, get the deluxe versions. While the HA humans can't ride them, they do look much better than the bonus HA ones in terms of detail. Arcee deluxe incarnation may be a mangled mess in bot mode, but IMO it's still better than the HA one.

Very true. Plus, if you look at the figure on the bike, it still doesn't look like the right scale.

I don't think the question was even answered properly yet. Size wise, Human Alliance Arcee + Chromia are about Scout sized, while Deluxe Arcee + Chromia are well... they're Deluxe-sized.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:This is pretty much a Happy Meal/Crackerjack situation, where you're buying something for the item that comes with it.

IMO, the HA Arcee fig is nothing to shout about, other than its ability to let Mikaela ride on it in alt mode.

Personally, I buy HA's for the main figure, not the bonus one that comes with it.

If you want the best available representation of the bike sisters in toy form, get the deluxe versions. While the HA humans can't ride them, they do look much better than the bonus HA ones in terms of detail. Arcee deluxe incarnation may be a mangled mess in bot mode, but IMO it's still better than the HA one.

I believe the GI Joe figures can ride the Deluxe bikes, so peeps can mess with that.

shonenfan4 wrote:I believe the GI Joe figures can ride the Deluxe bikes, so peeps can mess with that.

At least the GI Joe figs are of better quality than the HA ones. I heard that Epps figs have a tendency to get cock-eyed.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

shonenfan4 wrote:I believe the GI Joe figures can ride the Deluxe bikes, so peeps can mess with that.

At least the GI Joe figs are of better quality than the HA ones. I heard that Epps figs have a tendency to get cock-eyed.

Which really bothers me as to why would people wanna steal HA Sam or Epps, I've seen at least 2 or 3 HA boxes with stolen Sam or Epps.

shonenfan4 wrote:Which really bothers me as to why would people wanna steal HA Sam or Epps, I've seen at least 2 or 3 HA boxes with stolen Sam or Epps.

I think they were trying to find other Epps and Sam's that were in better condition than the ones that came with their HA's.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

shonenfan4 wrote:Which really bothers me as to why would people wanna steal HA Sam or Epps, I've seen at least 2 or 3 HA boxes with stolen Sam or Epps.

I think they were trying to find other Epps and Sam's that were in better condition than the ones that came with their HA's.

That's still pretty messed up imo, maybe they should've found one they liked and bought that. Instead they left a toy that's incomplete and will prob never be bought.

Back on topic, still waiting for this to hit stores locally, but can't say that I'm not tempted to just buy online.

shonenfan4 wrote:

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

shonenfan4 wrote:Which really bothers me as to why would people wanna steal HA Sam or Epps, I've seen at least 2 or 3 HA boxes with stolen Sam or Epps.

I think they were trying to find other Epps and Sam's that were in better condition than the ones that came with their HA's.

That's still pretty messed up imo, maybe they should've found one they liked and bought that. Instead they left a toy that's incomplete and will prob never be bought.

I know where you're coming from. Some people just aren't considerate.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I know where you're coming from. Some people just aren't considerate.

That is just as messed up as people who resort to toy swapping, and justifies that they're standing up to "the man". I'm willing to bet when this set comes out, there's people that's gonna swap the HA Skids with a Deluxe Skids . I've heard there's already instances where the HA BB or HA SS was swapped with a Deluxe version. So beware when buying these, especially at WM.

shonenfan4 wrote:

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I know where you're coming from. Some people just aren't considerate.

That is just as messed up as people who resort to toy swapping, and justifies that they're standing up to "the man". I'm willing to bet when this set comes out, there's people that's gonna swap the HA Skids with a Deluxe Skids . I've heard there's already instances where the HA BB or HA SS was swapped with a Deluxe version. So beware when buying these, especially at WM.

True. I mean, we collectors are usually careful enough to notice a swapped toy, or missing weapons. But imagine some poor kid who brings one of these swapped boxes home and finds it's not the right one...

Scalpers, swappers...the disease of moral decay exists in almost every aspect of human life