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Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:51 pm

My favorite was actually that lavender seeker. I'd been wanting one of those since DAY ONE when I watched that three-part debut show. Come on Hasbro. They're troop builders!!! Heck. They could issue a box set with each seeker mold as a lavender guy, and I'd buy them again.

Has/Tak: Do it!! Awesome eHobby or Botcon or TFCC set!!! Four new jets. Four new characters and bios to write.

Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:04 pm

Looks expensive, but so goddamn awesome! Anyway:

Seekers, superior.
Endless Bumblebees, inferior.

Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:36 pm

Literally just finished the Org. 3 Mp Seekers today... Guess I have something new to pursue. Awaiting pics!

News Credits: 409 · Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:06 pm

Hasbro really has butchered the concept of collecting exclusives. What is the point for collectors to buy exclusives if similar ones will be released later?

News Credits: 4 · Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:25 pm

I'd be tempted. If the price isn't ridiculous, and Ramjet and Skywarp are nice, and Starscream is more like the Universe or Henkei ones than the original Classics release. Pretty happy with my Gen Dirge, Thurst and Cracker. If they're all pretty toon accurate, I might bite.

Wouldn't mind a set of generic purple/lavender Seekers as well. Hasbro's done troop builder multipacks in the GI Joe and Star Wars lines for years. Admittedly there are less opportunities in the TF franchise (the WFC and FOC games notwithstanding) but there are the plain Seekers, Rainmakers maybe, Junkions (c'mon, there's at least 3 head molds, knock up a couple more and get it on!) and maybe even Autotroopers in the form of the Universe Prowl mold, or RTS Jazz. A new Sharkticon wouldn't go amiss either.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:56 pm

tigertracks 24 wrote:Cool idea. What might be cooler? The rainmakers, and or genericon seekerbots.

I'd take some of that. Like you say, this is a cool idea, but given the prevalence of this Seeker mold over the last few years how desirable would this set be? Chances are collectors are only missing one or two of these characters. Is it worth coughing up for all six? A Rainmakers set, add in Slipstream, Sunstorm and someone else and I'd be all over it.

Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:33 pm

Wow this has my interest...But this would have to be just right for me to pull the trigger on.

I have the original 3 seekers, which I'm not proud to say are all KO's... actually my Henkei KO's look really good, and probably more cartoon accurate over the Hasbro versions.... however I'd love to own officials, and also I missed out on all 3 of the the Coneheads.

If I were to get these, 2 things would have to happen.

First they would have to be somehow more show accurate than the Henkei ones. My Scream looks good, but some of the paint apps throw it off a bit from the show. Secondly the price has to be right.

Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:35 pm

Wow. A g1 slipstream from the seeker mold would be amazing. I wish a third party would make something amazing. Head chest arms legs waist ... I'd buy it!

News Credits: 1 · Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:17 pm

I'd love a Classics Slipstream based on the usual Seeker mold. But it'd really have to be almost entirely remolded. The only things I can see them really preserving are the null rays. the nosecone (save for the head part), the back, and the thrusters. They'd have to copy the back of the legs and rely on a lot of relief work to give her a remotely feminine look while retaining the vehicle mode. Bit it may be possible since most of the body is stuck inder the jet.

This would be a pretty cool set, if that's what it is. I already have all the figures, but this is heads and tails better than getting KOs. And it's good timing since said KOs aren't quite as prevelant as they used to be.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:18 pm

sorry, double post

Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:52 am

I'll get the set if they are sturdier then the floppy sickly expensive Henkei seekerbros I got a few years ago.

Still haven't gotten the last 2 coneheads.

News Credits: 3642 · Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:55 am

Well that's awesome. Here's hoping for a Sunstorm, Rainmakers and a pair of generic seekers for a repaint set.

This might be the most used/repainted mold yet in Transformers history!

Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:25 pm

Yeah, considering the Botcon set, Hasbro and Takara releases... plus KO Toys Sunstorms, Rainmakers, Toxic Rainmakers, Clone Seeker, chrome versions... Yeah, this has to be the MOST used mold ever.

Can anyone confirm that? I'd also rule out flat reissues. They put out G1 Optimus prime every couple years. :-p Talking about repaints and redecos here.

Maybe Bruticus comes in a close second, maybe? Hmmmmm.

News Credits: 3642 · Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:52 pm

gothsaurus wrote:Yeah, considering the Botcon set, Hasbro and Takara releases... plus KO Toys Sunstorms, Rainmakers, Toxic Rainmakers, Clone Seeker, chrome versions... Yeah, this has to be the MOST used mold ever.

Can anyone confirm that? I'd also rule out flat reissues. They put out G1 Optimus prime every couple years. :-p Talking about repaints and redecos here.

Maybe Bruticus comes in a close second, maybe? Hmmmmm.

Bruticus doesn't come close (though it's in the top 10).

I own 20 official Hasbro and Takara Tomy uses of the Starscream/Ramjet mold. Would love to get Sunstorm out of all of this one day.

If they had been really smart with this set, they would have done a cross set where it was Starscream, Thundercracker and Skywarp paired up with 3 new Seekers and a separate set with Ramjet, Dirge and Thrust along with Sunstorm and 2 others.

News Credits: 251 · Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:53 pm

Seibertron wrote:Well that's awesome. Here's hoping for a Sunstorm, Rainmakers and a pair of generic seekers for a repaint set.

This might be the most used/repainted mold yet in Transformers history!

I wouldn't say they're used that much.

And if they are used that much, it is a pretty cool mold, in their defense.

News Credits: 3642 · Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:54 pm

Mindmaster wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Well that's awesome. Here's hoping for a Sunstorm, Rainmakers and a pair of generic seekers for a repaint set.

This might be the most used/repainted mold yet in Transformers history!

I wouldn't say they're used that much.

And if they are used that much, it is a pretty cool mold, in their defense.

They're definitely used that much. Check out the picture that I posted in my previous post.

Seibertron wrote:
gothsaurus wrote:Yeah, considering the Botcon set, Hasbro and Takara releases... plus KO Toys Sunstorms, Rainmakers, Toxic Rainmakers, Clone Seeker, chrome versions... Yeah, this has to be the MOST used mold ever.

Can anyone confirm that? I'd also rule out flat reissues. They put out G1 Optimus prime every couple years. :-p Talking about repaints and redecos here.

Maybe Bruticus comes in a close second, maybe? Hmmmmm.

Bruticus doesn't come close (though it's in the top 10).

I own 20 official Hasbro and Takara Tomy uses of the Starscream/Ramjet mold. Would love to get Sunstorm out of all of this one day.

If they had been really smart with this set, they would have done a cross set where it was Starscream, Thundercracker and Skywarp paired up with 3 new Seekers and a separate set with Ramjet, Dirge and Thrust along with Sunstorm and 2 others.

I can't help but think that Sunstorm would be a PERFECT choice for the Transformers Collectors' Club Subscription Service. Make it happen TCC!

News Credits: 11 · Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:45 pm

Stormrider wrote:Hasbro really has butchered the concept of collecting exclusives. What is the point for collectors to buy exclusives if similar ones will be released later?

You get them earlier I guess?

I dunno, I personally hate exclusives, it's just an excuse to charge three times the price for the same amount of plastic.

As for this set, it's still cool for those that want it. I definitely don't need it. Judging by the pic it looks like the original three are based on their Henkei paint jobs but without the chrome.

Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:27 pm

Yeah, losing the chrome is actually a HUGE plus IMHO. Not to mention show-accurate decos... I hated the lightening deco on Thrust.

Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:21 pm

So. Many. Seekers. xD I knew it'd been used a lot, but TWENTY times!? Wow! :shock:

Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:08 pm

Owning about 33 versions of this mold (Hasbro,Takara,CHMS) I am a sucker for seekers. But Im not wasting $150-$200 on a set just to have the "no chrome" option as a varriant. If e-bay dealers break up the set, I might consider Thrust and Dirge if they dont have annoying graphics on the wings.

Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:31 pm

Stormrider wrote:Hasbro really has butchered the concept of collecting exclusives. What is the point for collectors to buy exclusives if similar ones will be released later?

Well you exclusivly get to own it for at least two years before everyone else gets it.

News Credits: 1 · Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:39 pm

Seekers are the wrong toy to make exclucives of. At least of the main 6. Just release the main six at regular retail and be done with it.

Still, I think G2 Ramjet and AM Thundercracker worked out really well. I'd be on board for a Pretender Starscream variant (if taken literally the deco is pretty dissimilar to his regular one).The Rainmakers may make decent exclucives too. But the problem with them is that CHMS beat them to the ounch, so who'd want to pay exclucive prices for the same essential thing? I mean, other than me?

News Credits: 20 · Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:01 pm

Start talking Sunstorm, the remaining Rainmakers and generic seekers. Otherwise, GTFO. We've had multiple opportunities for each seeker now. Time to make what hasn't been done already.

News Credits: 10 · Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:50 am

Flux Convoy wrote:Start talking Sunstorm, the remaining Rainmakers and generic seekers. Otherwise, GTFO. We've had multiple opportunities for each seeker now. Time to make what hasn't been done already.

That seems to be the exact point of the Asia premium line.

Slightly repainted Bruticus? Slightly chromey Magnus? Striker prime with buster's colours (Okay, this one's cool, just... expensive)?

Seems like they are just making minor repaints to the same exact character that has been previously released. But something like the seekers already have loads of releases, like you said, so I can't imagine this selling well. :BANG_HEAD:

They should just make Toxitron from RTS Prime... That way I'll actually buy something. :HEADHURTS:

Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:14 am

Putting out the full set of seekers should ALWAYS be the plan from the start. They can make an exclusive VS set to round out the less popular ones as a store exclusive ....or a full set like this one... OR just friggin put them out on the shelf.... but they can't just put out a couple of seekers and call it done.

So now, some five years later (?) — and after KOToys wiped the floor with them — you have to definitely admit they missed the boat. BUT this is nice for those who missed out getting a full set years ago It's a nice chance to complete the lineup in a nice neat, easy way. Kudos for that. :APPLAUSE:

Finally.

And thinking about it, these ARE from HasbroAsia, right? It IS a 4th company. (Hasbro, Takara/Tomy, TFCC, HasbroAsia.) Each makes its own business plan, toy lines, exclusives, sculpts (at times)... It's clear why odd things like this happen, and why it's confusing to collectors. Each is thinking about its own market and what will sell. With the internet, we monitor all four companies and what they are doing overseas, and it looks like a big mess.

If we knew better what was going on in the 80s, we'd have pitched the same fits. Why did Canada get Diakrons in this color?! We didn't get a yellow Trailbreaker!? Peru colored minibots! Why did we get shafted??? And we've been waiting years for a red Tracks! Where is our Salt Man Z!

Rahahahah. :grin: