The Energon Pub

News Credits: 462 · Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:55 pm

A lot of hate goes out to the human characters of the many Transformers cartoon and comics series, so I'm now asking about the opposite. Who were the BEST humans characters of the cartoons/comics?

News Credits: 3 · Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:32 pm

I'd say the following

1. Spike (G1 cartoon/comic)
2. Buster (G1 comic)
3. Sparkplug (G1 cartoon/comic)
4. G.B. Blackrock (G1 comic)
5. Professor Morris (G1 UK comic)
6. Joy Meadows (G1 UK Comic)
7. Agent Fowler (TF Prime cartoon)

My reason is for these picks is that they are all useful characters without getting crowbarred in. Better yet none of them are kids, Spike and Buster both mature as the storyline progresses (both cartoon and comic).

News Credits: 767 · Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:55 pm

The utter best:
Spider-Man (Nuff said)

But TF originals only:
1.Professor Sumdac (Animated)
2.Verity (old idw)
3.Hunter (old idw)
4.Jimmy Pink (old idw)
5.Jack (Prime)
6.Agent Fowler (Prime)
7.Sari Sumdac (Animated)

Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:03 pm

Spike and Sparkplug Witwivky, Carly, Chip and Marissa from G1 animated. The first four had technical skills and were useful that way. Marissa simply kicked ass ten ways from Sunday.

News Credits: 7 · Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:17 pm

I though about doing a topic like that some time ago.

Captain Fanzone(He is funny and overall a good guy and captain.)
Seymour Simmons(I know he is not from a cartoon,but i think he is one of the best.I love his lines:"One man...alone...betrayed by the country that he loves!")
Agent Fowler(He seems to be looking the best to everyone while keeping his cool,being cool and maintainning order)

Dead Metal wrote:The utter best:
Spider-Man (Nuff said)

News Credits: 37 · Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:21 pm

Sari is the least annoying. Then Fanzone. Both from Animated.

News Credits: 15 · Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:20 pm

10. Sari Sumdac (she was kinda annoying. Sorry Sly)
9. Isaac Sumdac
7. Coby Hansen (Ah, he could've been done better)
6. Captain Fanzone
5. Buster (from comic)
4. Daniel Witwicky
3. Sam Witwicky (GEEWUNNERS gonna chew this up and spit it on Bay)
2. Older Spike Witwicky (Cartoon)
1. Younger Spike Witwicky (Cartoon and Comics)

My Top Ten, Letterman!

News Credits: 462 · Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:27 pm

Okay, I see a lot of good guy humans. How about any human villains?

Also, no Colonel Franklin?

News Credits: 767 · Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:56 am

Do Godmasters count? If so Ginrai.

News Credits: 462 · Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:04 am

Dead Metal wrote:Do Godmasters count? If so Ginrai.

I would most certainly think so! ALL of the main humans from Masterforce awesome.

News Credits: 1 · Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:08 am

Dead Metal wrote:Do Godmasters count? If so Ginrai.

I came for this comment. Thank you.

Don't forget Buster and Hydra, two very intentionally creepy guys who both literally gave up their humanity and almost got killed for it.
Com to think of it, Masterforce had the most humans and the best human characters. I'll admit to Animated being pretty good as well. Both series show that humans can be done right.

Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:10 am

Doctor Archeville from 'The Ultimate Doom'. I would love to see his backstory, there.

Also, saying Marissa again. Because she was that awesome.

News Credits: 462 · Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:11 am

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Also, saying Marissa again. Because she was that awesome.

Except for her creepy younger years.

Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:16 am

Sabrblade wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Also, saying Marissa again. Because she was that awesome.
Except for her creepy younger years.

KISS Players doesn't count for me. It never counted, doesn't count and never will count. That wasn't Marissa from G1. :-x

News Credits: 462 · Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:55 am

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Also, saying Marissa again. Because she was that awesome.
Except for her creepy younger years.

KISS Players doesn't count for me. It never counted, doesn't count and never will count. That wasn't Marissa from G1.

Your right. It wasn't her from G1 season 3. It was her from FSRLTF2010.

Anyway, I've gotta give credit to Prometheus "Meltdown" Black, being the only intimidating and most lethal human villain of Animated. Still wish we knew of his fate, as, when we last saw him, he wasn't quite dead.

Oh, and the leader of the Protohumans from Beast Wars, who assaulted and disabled a Cyber-Raptor on his own.

And, I know I'm gonna get a lot of flak for saying this, but Kicker for his competence ONLY. Yes, he was a terrible character with a mean-spirited personality, but he was far from useless. And he does remain the only human to ever fight directly against Galvatron one-on-one (and survive). As far as his personality went, he was awful. But watch his fight scenes on mute and he doesn't seem all that bad during those parts.

Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:14 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Also, saying Marissa again. Because she was that awesome.
Except for her creepy younger years.

KISS Players doesn't count for me. It never counted, doesn't count and never will count. That wasn't Marissa from G1.
Your right. It wasn't her from G1 season 3. It was her from FSRLTF2010.

I don't know what that acronym means. Doesn't matter since using Kiss Players Marissa to compare to her G1 animated self is like using any other Optimus to compare to another Optimus. Same name, different people.

And, I know I'm gonna get a lot of flak for saying this, but Kicker for his competence ONLY. Yes, he was a terrible character with a mean-spirited personality, but he was far from useless. And he does remain the only human to ever fight directly against Galvatron one-on-one (and survive). As far as his personality went, he was awful. But watch his fight scenes on mute and he doesn't seem all that bad during those parts.

There's no way he's worse than those three wastes of protoplasm from BOT.

News Credits: 462 · Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:44 pm

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Also, saying Marissa again. Because she was that awesome.
Except for her creepy younger years.

KISS Players doesn't count for me. It never counted, doesn't count and never will count. That wasn't Marissa from G1.
Your right. It wasn't her from G1 season 3. It was her from FSRLTF2010.

I don't know what that acronym means. Doesn't matter since using Kiss Players Marissa to compare to her G1 animated self is like using any other Optimus to compare to another Optimus. Same name, different people.

"FSRLTF2010" = "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010", A.K.A. the Japanese dub of G1 season 3 that takes place in 2010 instead of 2005-2006.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Doesn't matter since using Kiss Players Marissa to compare to her G1 animated self is like using any other Optimus to compare to another Optimus. Same name, different people.

Using that example, it would be comparing G1 cartoon Optimus Prime to FSRLTF Convoy, his Japanese dub counterpart.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:There's no way he's worse than those three wastes of protoplasm from BOT.

True, but let's stick to the positives, since this is about good human characters as opposed to bad ones.

Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:54 pm

Couldn't really think of any, but then I remembered Agent Fowler, I find him too funny not to list, none of the other humans I know of ever really interested me.

Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:21 am

no love for Ms Josie Beller, aka Circuit Breaker

Always thought she was kick ass

News Credits: 462 · Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:24 pm

shamone wrote:no love for Ms Josie Beller, aka Circuit Breaker

Always thought she was kick ass

She suffers the same stereotypical Marvel stupidity of not begin able to tell good from evil.

Though, she did fry Unicron. 8-}

Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:30 pm

Mine from each series:
G1: So many to pick from... I'd have to say Doctor Archeavil
BW - Leader Naethandral
BM - none
RID - Kelly
Armada - Rad's dad
Energon - Dr. Jones
Cybertron - Col. Franklin
Animated - Meltdown
Prime - Silas

Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:04 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:There's no way he's worse than those three wastes of protoplasm from BOT.
True, but let's stick to the positives, since this is about good human characters as opposed to bad ones.

I am being positive. I'm positive he's a better character.

News Credits: 462 · Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:46 pm

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:There's no way he's worse than those three wastes of protoplasm from BOT.
True, but let's stick to the positives, since this is about good human characters as opposed to bad ones.

I am being positive. I'm positive he's a better character.

I meant in regards to Tweedledum, Tweedledummer, and Tweedledork from B.O.T. (And yet I just now make that remark myself 8-}

).

Ah, forget it. :lol:

Anyway, how 'bout some love for Lord Giga and Lady Mega? These two were the only human Earth-born Decepticon Commanders and they were awesome. I especially iked how they weren't truly malevolent humans (Hydra and Buster filled that role perfectly enough), but were only loyal to Devil Z out of honor and duty. They had a respect for their comrades, and later Ginrai, whom they (or at least Giga) viewed as a worthy and honorable rival and adversary to face. They also show genuine care and concern for the other Decepticons, as though they were all a family: A family of outcasts brought together from uncaring societies. And, despite their devout loyalty to Devil Z, even they deemed his transition from wanting to conquer humanity to wanting to destroy humanity immoral and did their best to sway their master without opening trying to betray him. In the end, however, their master's word was law and they payed with their lives, even in spite of their being saved by Ginrai in the end (they died in his arms).

Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:45 pm

Honestly!!!!!!

All of Buster's girl friends in the marvel G-1 comics. because of the way they were drawn so curvy. my favorite is the buster girlfriend that actually got involved in the plot & went diving in the water with a seacon infested waters.

News Credits: 462 · Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:10 pm

deathy wrote:Honestly!!!!!!

All of Buster's girl friends in the marvel G-1 comics. because of the way they were drawn so curvy. my favorite is the buster girlfriend that actually got involved in the plot & went diving in the water with a seacon infested waters.

That's all one person. Buster only ever had one girlfriend throughout the Marvel G1 comic run: Jesse.