The Energon Pub

Ok Burn, I know you have my quote on you sig line about betting a Metroplex that Hasbro was going to screw us on Arcee... well, I am not going to consider THAT clunky Brickformer with more back-kibble than most of the TF4 figures to be a serious attempt by Hasbro at a decent Arcee. Half a dozen 3rd party companies have done FAR better than the #1 toy company in the entire Northern Hemisphere so I'm still saying we got screwed and I'm not touching that toy. Try Again Hasbro and keep trying until you get it right!!

Pretty cool to see some of the other Generations figures though although I'm a bit disappointed that they are still getting lazy and bringing in figures from different lines and repainting them and passing them off as our beloved "Classic" characters. I find that rather insulting.

Not sure what to make of that Voyager Prime but I can tell from the pics that I already like it better than the Evasion Mode Prime so I guess I'll be adding that one to my Prime collection. Disappoints that Megatrons guns are so puny but that's tolerable since I like the rest of the figure in both tank and robot modes. Haven't seen a decent Megs since Classics line first started (I'm not counting the recent Legends figure. It's very cool but too tiny to be lumped in with the others)

I doubt we'll see a Slipstream anytime soon. They just had her in the TFSS last year. Plus Nautica was already designed to be a retool of Windblade, so that's likely the next variant we see out of her. But she'll be a general release. Nautica's a submersible, though, so can anyone be retooled or repainted from her?

Come on be a man, burn called you out fair an square. Own up.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Nah to soon for flamewar unless someone at Hasbros in a massive pissing contest with someone at funpub.

It's the only female Decepticon I could think of who'd work with Chromia's mold. Really, I just think if they do Slipstream, they might as well do some gal-pals for her so she's not the only female Decepticon in the entire IDW universe.

knightsix wrote:I doubt we'll see a Slipstream anytime soon. They just had her in the TFSS last year. Plus Nautica was already designed to be a retool of Windblade, so that's likely the next variant we see out of her. But she'll be a general release. Nautica's a submersible, though, so can anyone be retooled or repainted from her?

Thunderblast, maybe?

How do you make a jet into a boat o_o, im not being a that way, i honestly want to know. Plus to be fair by the time a remold retool of windblade may or may not come out, tfss slipstream will be a few years old. How long was it from wings scourge to generations?

Nemesis Primal wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Nah to soon for flamewar unless someone at Hasbros in a massive pissing contest with someone at funpub.

It's the only female Decepticon I could think of who'd work with Chromia's mold. Really, I just think if they do Slipstream, they might as well do some gal-pals for her so she's not the only female Decepticon in the entire IDW universe.

knightsix wrote:I doubt we'll see a Slipstream anytime soon. They just had her in the TFSS last year. Plus Nautica was already designed to be a retool of Windblade, so that's likely the next variant we see out of her. But she'll be a general release. Nautica's a submersible, though, so can anyone be retooled or repainted from her?

Thunderblast, maybe?

Thunderblast! Yes! I could easily see that!

So we're finally getting Masterpiece Sideswipe?

SW's SilverHammer wrote:How do you make a jet into a boat o_o, im not being a that way, i honestly want to know. Plus to be fair by the time a remold retool of windblade may or may not come out, tfss slipstream will be a few years old. How long was it from wings scourge to generations?

Well, it's more of a submarine. The turbines will act as propellers instead. The wings are shorter and will probably be oriented differently in submersible mode. Plus a different vehicle nose.

Hydrodynamic isn't all that separated from aerodynamic. Heck, Depthcharge used to be a Manta Ray, now he's a jet in Timelines.

I gotta tip my hat to Hasbro, they're really making the 30th line all inclusive and they have some solid stuff coming out. Even if half of the figures get canceled, which is always a possibility, the next 12-15 months looks really good. I'm so gonna run out of space

Zap is the only one I really want.

And as dumb as it sounds, it's only because I want that G.B. Blackrock Kreon. XD

Nemesis Primal wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Alpha Weltall wrote:If those characters can't get new molds then I doubt Airazor will so I'll continue to expect her to be a retool of Windblade at some point.

I doubt Fun Pub will do Airazor either, since they already got her early on. And honestly, if someone does decide to do a retool or windblade, I think a more interesting idea would be to go back to the concept ideas that are out there which feature her as a knight or a Roman-style warrior. And if Funpub does a Knight Windblade, they could get reuse out of the knight insignia they designed for Botcon this year to boot.

I hope they 'll pull a springer/sandstorm, tfp arcee/chromia and make slipstream from windblade. You can say they won't because of the club, but what else is there for femjets.

You're right, I can't say they won't because of the club. The club doesn't really seem to have any influence on what Hasbro does except maybe indirectly.

I'm not sure how likely it is, but this sort of major retool would have to be doon by Hasbro/Takara themselves. And given the way they've got Generations set up currently, they'd probably want to have Slipstream in the IDW comics so they could have something to reprint with her toy (and let's be honest, there's other good reasons for this to happen too). So if it does happen, we'll probably see it coming.

Maybe if they make that Slipstream, they could also turn Chromia into Flamewar?

Its not that the club has any say on what Hasbro does, its that Hasbro has all the say on what the club does, and they have no intention of fighting the marketshare, There's plenty of examples of Club figures being done as mainline figs later on, Nightbeat, off the top of my head. Also, Generations Darking following Botcon Dreadwind,

Alpha Weltall wrote:So I take it Tarantulus is yet another BW character that Hasbro has no plans on making a new figure for within the next two or three years.

So we have Rattrap, Waspinator and Rhinox but Depthcharge, Rampage, Tarantulas and possibly Silverbolt are exclusive retools. If those characters can't get new molds then I doubt Airazor will so I'll continue to expect her to be a retool of Windblade at some point.

Possibly for the SS after this one they're advertising for now or maybe even next years incentive figure but that might be too soon for a mold that's not even out yet.

I checked as many of the comments as I could however it seems that everyone is too busy calling that Optimus "ugly" but I see something interesting when I look at it's design. To me, it absolutely screams Machine Wars Optimus Prime/Thunderclash update. The alt modes are very reminiscent of each other and the parts layout and transformation are similar too. Just give it a new chest plate and head and it would be perfect as Thunderclash/MW Optimus.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... /611/1/26/

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... /640/1/37/

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... /640/1/66/

Whoo! I think its a hideous Prime, but I'd replace y Wings Thunderclash with that.

Hearing rumors that the voyager G1 Prime looks the way it does to cover up ports and pegs because it's meant to combine.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Hearing rumors that the voyager G1 Prime looks the way it does to cover up ports and pegs because it's meant to combine.

You're joking right?

Right?

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Hearing rumors that the voyager G1 Prime looks the way it does to cover up ports and pegs because it's meant to combine.

You're joking right?

Right?

Whatever he combines with better be damn impressive to make up for how prime looks

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Hearing rumors that the voyager G1 Prime looks the way it does to cover up ports and pegs because it's meant to combine.

Really? The words "Apex Bomber" come to mind if that's the case.

Combine with what to form what? Is the Powerlinx concept making an appearance? I guess if they're making a Headmaster, anything is possible.

The rumor I heard was that Optimus would be the central torso bot of a classic Scramble City type of Combiner. And logically have a Motormaster retool.


... Although, if he was part of a combiner, I'd expect that to be made blatantly known.

T-Macksimus wrote:Ok Burn, I know you have my quote on you sig line about betting a Metroplex that Hasbro was going to screw us on Arcee... well, I am not going to consider THAT clunky Brickformer with more back-kibble than most of the TF4 figures to be a serious attempt by Hasbro at a decent Arcee. Half a dozen 3rd party companies have done FAR better than the #1 toy company in the entire Northern Hemisphere so I'm still saying we got screwed and I'm not touching that toy. Try Again Hasbro and keep trying until you get it right!!

Nope, you're not getting out of this, you said, RIGHT HERE, which I will also quote ...

T-Macksimus wrote:Don't get too excited folks. All we have are confirmation of names. As we have already seen they are not at all opposed to giving us repaints (which I expect both of these to be) or underwhelming molds. If you have any high hopes or expectations you might as well leave them at the door because I will bet a shiny new Titan class Metroplex that Hasbro is going to screw us over on Arcee... AGAIN! Generations started strong and has slowly gone downhill and the fact that the 30th Anniv. is here doesn't seem to matter to them one bit. >:oP

The bet was for NOT A REPAINT.

This is not a repaint.

It doesn't matter that you don't like it. It's not a repaint.

You made the bet. I won. I want my Metroplex.

However, I realise postage on a Metroplex may in fact cost more than an actual Metroplex so I'm willing just accept the money for a new Metroplex and let you off on the postage.

Sound fair? Shall I PM you my Paypal address?

T-Macksimus wrote:Half a dozen 3rd party companies have done FAR better than the #1 toy company in the entire Northern Hemisphere...

In addition to Burn's burn, I should point out that Hasbro is the #3 toy company, behind Mattel and, as of this year, LEGO.

I am too excited for words. The Generation line-up looks amazing (except for the new Voyager Prime, but if it leads to a Motormaster retool/repaint, I'll forgive it). Hasbro is about to make my wallet its BEE-OTCH, and I couldn't be happier!

That Movie 4 Autobot Platinum Edition box set looks very tempting. I already pre-ordered all of those characters from Takara-Tomy's Movie Advanced line, but these Platinum Edition versions look even better! I'm starting to wish I had waited just a bit longer before making those pre-orders.

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Hearing rumors that the voyager G1 Prime looks the way it does to cover up ports and pegs because it's meant to combine.

You're joking right?

Right?

Nope, it might be miss transformed to cover them up

megatronus wrote:

T-Macksimus wrote:Half a dozen 3rd party companies have done FAR better than the #1 toy company in the entire Northern Hemisphere...

In addition to Burn's burn, I should point out that Hasbro is the #3 toy company, behind Mattel and, as of this year, LEGO.

How did Mattel get up there? Besides Barbie what do they have?

everything looks pretty good except that optimus prime... i don't know, looks a little off
what size class is it?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

megatronus wrote:

T-Macksimus wrote:Half a dozen 3rd party companies have done FAR better than the #1 toy company in the entire Northern Hemisphere...

In addition to Burn's burn, I should point out that Hasbro is the #3 toy company, behind Mattel and, as of this year, LEGO.

How did Mattel get up there? Besides Barbie what do they have?

Off the top of my head?

Hot Wheels, Matchbox, MOTU, DC Figures License, WWE, Disney Figures License, American Girl, Monster High...

They're #1. I hate to admit it, since I really only collect Transformers, Marvel Legends & Star Wars (in that order), but they are.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

megatronus wrote:

T-Macksimus wrote:Half a dozen 3rd party companies have done FAR better than the #1 toy company in the entire Northern Hemisphere...

In addition to Burn's burn, I should point out that Hasbro is the #3 toy company, behind Mattel and, as of this year, LEGO.

How did Mattel get up there? Besides Barbie what do they have?

Hotwheels.