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Seibertron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:This difference this time being, unlike Landshark, they used an existing character to make this instead of making up a whole new one.ScottyP wrote:Cool mold, comes with a Minicon, but character I totally don't care about. Kinda feels like Flak and Landshark out of the '09 set.
Yah, it exists, but it's so obscure that I doubt many people care. Plus the poor color scheme doesn't help much. It looks like a KO.
ScottyP wrote:feels like Flak and Landshark
For everyone who wants that character EVERYONE knows of and really needs an update, don't worry, he is on his way...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Seibertron wrote:We are different types of collectors then because this isn't what I want as a collector, nor as someone who wants to see BotCon succeed. It's the 30th anniversary of Transformers and the 20th of BotCon ... this set should have knocked it out of the park. An extremely nice premium edition set of Transformers Prime characters or something way more mainstream would be far more appropriate for an anniversary year set. Again, doing an Encore/TRU Stunticons set and BotCon/e-Hobby G2 Stunticons exclusive set would have been a really nice way to do something to honor both the 30th anniversary and the 20th (though if Hasbro and Takara wasn't onboard then I don't know what you can do about that).
Sabrblade wrote:Anyway -- https://twitter.com/BotCon/status/443390204586389504For everyone who wants that character EVERYONE knows of and really needs an update, don't worry, he is on his way...
I'm hoping for Devcon.Mkall wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Anyway -- https://twitter.com/BotCon/status/443390204586389504For everyone who wants that character EVERYONE knows of and really needs an update, don't worry, he is on his way...
It's going to be Hot Rod isn't it?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I'm hoping for Devcon.Mkall wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Anyway -- https://twitter.com/BotCon/status/443390204586389504For everyone who wants that character EVERYONE knows of and really needs an update, don't worry, he is on his way...
It's going to be Hot Rod isn't it?
Mkall wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I'm hoping for Devcon.Mkall wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Anyway -- https://twitter.com/BotCon/status/443390204586389504For everyone who wants that character EVERYONE knows of and really needs an update, don't worry, he is on his way...
It's going to be Hot Rod isn't it?
I'd love a Devcon, but the word "update" suggests to me that whatever figure it is already has a toy, but an outdated one.
Maybe it'll be Energon Ironhide
Sabrblade wrote:I'm hoping for Devcon.Mkall wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Anyway -- https://twitter.com/BotCon/status/443390204586389504For everyone who wants that character EVERYONE knows of and really needs an update, don't worry, he is on his way...
It's going to be Hot Rod isn't it?
Mkall wrote:I guess we'll have to disagree on that. Since the 2007 backlash against Thundercracker, Ramjet and Dirge, FunPub has been offering "extras" instead of "must have" figures. I think that's overall a good thing for them and fans in general, especially where the hobby is today. I mean, Hasbro gave us a Straxus for crying out loud. Who'd've guessed that 5 years ago? Who knows (other than HasTak) what we'll get in the next 5 at this rate?
Seibertron wrote:I think that business strategy is a mistake. They should be offering "must haves" at the conventions or early shots at figures Hasbro will release at a later date. That should be part of the business strategy so that you put butts in seats at an event like that. When you look at what appears to be stagnant attendance numbers from the past 7 years meanwhile the live action movies have churned about 2.6 BILLION dollars and while a Transformers convention in Asia drew in over 15,000 (double or triple BotCon attendance levels depending on who you talk to), you have to look at this lackluster strategy as being one that should be put to bed. There's no winning this discussion ... I can't convince any of you who feel one way to see it another, but I think the attendance levels alone should speak for themselves. From a business perspective, "must have" convention exclusives should be a "must have" feature for any convention.
If this is just a throw away figure and there is a "must have" figure in this set, then I go back to one of my other statements about how these reveals are "rolled out" every year. This "let's generate some negative discussions by showing the lackluster reveals first" and then reveal the more popular choices is a really poor marketing strategy. If you've got some lackluster repaints, the entire set would be better served by simply showing the set as a whole. "Here you go folks, here's this year's entire BotCon set!" If there's a lackluster figure amongst the set, it'll just get overlooked by the more favored choices.
I'd love to hear from some of you who actually work in marketing to get some professional responses and opinions about these marketing choices that I perceive as being poor choices. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this is the way to go. Just 9 years of this yo-yo negative marketing just seems really counterintuitive to me.
You can't improve on the perfection that was Energon Ironhide. The Playskoolian head assembly pops on and off so easily that all of your favorite TFs can take turns decapitating him, making it the greatest possible toy for a character that f*@&ing irritating. Don't you wish we had a Nightscream that could withstand that dozens of times without irreparably breaking?Mkall wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I'm hoping for Devcon.Mkall wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Anyway -- https://twitter.com/BotCon/status/443390204586389504For everyone who wants that character EVERYONE knows of and really needs an update, don't worry, he is on his way...
It's going to be Hot Rod isn't it?
I'd love a Devcon, but the word "update" suggests to me that whatever figure it is already has a toy, but an outdated one.
Maybe it'll be Energon Ironhide
Bumblevivisector wrote:Maybe our newest cassette molds aren't off limits, and we're getting Masterpiece Shattered Glass Ravage? It's been almost 4 years, so he's surely starved for attention.
Sabrblade wrote:I'm hoping for Devcon.Mkall wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Anyway -- https://twitter.com/BotCon/status/443390204586389504For everyone who wants that character EVERYONE knows of and really needs an update, don't worry, he is on his way...
It's going to be Hot Rod isn't it?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Ferak wasn't a UK character.
Right, forgot about that guy.Seibertron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Ferak wasn't a UK character.
You know what I meant. His random robot mode was taken from the UK comics. He didn't have a robot mode in his brief generic drone mode in Transformers #17.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:Rodimusprim ... denied.jpg
So. We played around with Ferak's colors today, to see if even a SLIGHT lavender hue would be ok. Yeah. Even a little purple and it's Cyclonus.
So, chalk it up to being "Wings Universe" version of the character lol. Either way, I think he looks very sharp!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:
On a different note, those wishing for more a lavenderish shade instead of basic white might be in for disappointment, as Pete Sinclair has weighed in on the decision to make Ferak white:So. We played around with Ferak's colors today, to see if even a SLIGHT lavender hue would be ok. Yeah. Even a little purple and it's Cyclonus.
So, chalk it up to being "Wings Universe" version of the character lol. Either way, I think he looks very sharp!
Rodimus Prime wrote:
OK, so not lavender, but did it have to be white? Couldn't it be a combo of a couple of different colors?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'