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AdventPrime wrote:So how exactly can we put the missile launchers for vehicle mode? The original City Commander trailer didn't have the holes that Powered Commander has to allow the missile launchers to be attached in trailer mode. Will the re-release have the holes that Powered Commander has?

The re-release will have the holes.

REMINATOR wrote:I just pre-ordered the add on accessories.

Hm, the ads claimed the missile launchers will work for both robot and vehicle mode just like the G1. I don't know if this true for the original City Commander since only one side of the trailer has hole.

Not a big lost since I'm displaying in robot mode anyway. I'm just glad the launchers and the dual gun are released as a separate set. They should've done this in the beginning, ehehee.

I was looking at the pictures for the add-on preorder, and due to the design of the launchers, it may be able to peg onto the rectangular-shaped tab which exists on the trailer part, with the circular peg facing outward, because of the lack of a hole for it to fit into. That's just speculation on my part, but hopefully it's correct and we can all display our City Commanders with missiles out in trailer mode.

Someone who owns a Powered Commander may be able to confirm if it's possible to attatch the launchers in that manner.

Hell yeah, just pre-orderd the CC add on. Those are good lookin launchers. I have the G1 launchers on there but I think these fit the kit better. Nice.

kirbenvost wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:
Seibertron may contain nuts, but underneath there's a smooth layer of caramel, chocolate, and soft serve frozen yogurt! MMMMmmmmmmmm yummy

lol! I was about to shoot you a PM as well, but I see it's already been taken care of.

it was a nice gesture on Zod's part, and your as well, nice to know I got friends who got my back.. this community is very supportive of each other.. and I am proud to call myself a member..

On a side note: I need to go back to the Seibertron gallery and check on the images of the CC in trailer mode, since mine is in storage.. so I can view the pegs.. the add did say that the missile launchers were made for the new release and the original, so maybe they will fit on both in trailer mode..someone needs to question Fans Project on this..and maybe find out if the rerelease is going to also be updated to the new mold fixes or if it is just a straight rerelease..

questions that certainly need answering..

skywarp-2 wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:
Seibertron may contain nuts, but underneath there's a smooth layer of caramel, chocolate, and soft serve frozen yogurt! MMMMmmmmmmmm yummy

lol! I was about to shoot you a PM as well, but I see it's already been taken care of.

it was a nice gesture on Zod's part, and your as well, nice to know I got friends who got my back.. this community is very supportive of each other.. and I am proud to call myself a member..

On a side note: I need to go back to the Seibertron gallery and check on the images of the CC in trailer mode, since mine is in storage.. so I can view the pegs.. the add did say that the missile launchers were made for the new release and the original, so maybe they will fit on both in trailer mode..someone needs to question Fans Project on this..and maybe find out if the rerelease is going to also be updated to the new mold fixes or if it is just a straight rerelease..

questions that certainly need answering..

I actually posted to fansproject to ask them that very question. If I actually hear anything back I'll certainly post it here immediately. Also I'd like to thank Convotron for the assist on customizing. I bookmarked that website and will be going over it with a fine toothed comb to learn all I can!

kirbenvost wrote:

AdventPrime wrote:So how exactly can we put the missile launchers for vehicle mode? The original City Commander trailer didn't have the holes that Powered Commander has to allow the missile launchers to be attached in trailer mode. Will the re-release have the holes that Powered Commander has?

The re-release will have the holes.

REMINATOR wrote:I just pre-ordered the add on accessories.

Hm, the ads claimed the missile launchers will work for both robot and vehicle mode just like the G1. I don't know if this true for the original City Commander since only one side of the trailer has hole.

Not a big lost since I'm displaying in robot mode anyway. I'm just glad the launchers and the dual gun are released as a separate set. They should've done this in the beginning, ehehee.

I was looking at the pictures for the add-on preorder, and due to the design of the launchers, it may be able to peg onto the rectangular-shaped tab which exists on the trailer part, with the circular peg facing outward, because of the lack of a hole for it to fit into. That's just speculation on my part, but hopefully it's correct and we can all display our City Commanders with missiles out in trailer mode.

Someone who owns a Powered Commander may be able to confirm if it's possible to attatch the launchers in that manner.

Honestly I don't know what you guys are talking about, and maybe I am just daft and confused.. but here are the images of both the trailer from both sides.. and I can not see where the pegs would be for the missile attachments to go (at all, and since I never opened my TFCON, I have no idea how they go in the first place)..




Am I missing something here?? can you guys help me out??

Guys, the launchers on Powered Commander have small, tight "U" clips on them. These clips have the peg which plugs into the robot/vehicle. I'm sure that the upgrade parts will have a different "U" clip in order to attach to the original City Commander.

Counterpunch wrote:Guys, the launchers on Powered Commander have small, tight "U" clips on them. These clips have the peg which plugs into the robot/vehicle. I'm sure that the upgrade parts will have a different "U" clip in order to attach to the original City Commander.

are you sure about that..

powered commander had these holes.. and I am not so sure the New add on sets will have anything to attach them to the trailer in trailer mode.. if you look at the original Trailer images above, it doesn't look as if CC will be able to hold the missiles..



Now I am worried that the newer version will have the new mold changes, and us CC owners will be out of the ability to display the missiles in truck mode, effectively.

It would be nice of Fan's Project to offer a trade in to all those owners who bought the original version,s o we can get the upgraded mold fixes..that would be mighty decent of them..

a sort of straight up trade, we pay for shipping they give us an exchange for the better release..stipulations that the original be complete with the box..and no KO's

I trust that this accessory won't suck, and I trust that the missiles will attach in vehicle mode. And if I'm wrong, well, I've definitely spent $12 on dumber things. Like ROTF Soundwave

It Is Him wrote:I trust that this accessory won't suck, and I trust that the missiles will attach in vehicle mode. And if I'm wrong, well, I've definitely spent $12 on dumber things. Like ROTF Soundwave

ouch...

zodconvoy wrote:

LiKwid wrote:Would it be crazy to buy this and then re-paint it? The more I look at it the more i want to add my own custom touch to it....

Hey once it's yours you can make it anything you want to! But be warned we can fully expect to get versions for Shadow and Diaclone upgrades. What repainting were you planning?

See that's the thing.. I love the classic colors but when I see something that is viewed as armor I just don't see it in those colors.I'n thinking out making it more metallic and worn. I 've tinkered with trying to make my own armor for this line but I could never get it all to fit into a trailer..Which leads me to another question.. How does the armor collapse into the trailer? I'm very curious..

LiKwid wrote:

zodconvoy wrote:

LiKwid wrote:Would it be crazy to buy this and then re-paint it? The more I look at it the more i want to add my own custom touch to it....

Hey once it's yours you can make it anything you want to! But be warned we can fully expect to get versions for Shadow and Diaclone upgrades. What repainting were you planning?

See that's the thing.. I love the classic colors but when I see something that is viewed as armor I just don't see it in those colors.I'n thinking out making it more metallic and worn. I 've tinkered with trying to make my own armor for this line but I could never get it all to fit into a trailer..Which leads me to another question.. How does the armor collapse into the trailer? I'm very curious..

wouldn't that be interesting, to see an Armor colored Armor made out of one of these trailer upgrades..

all silver might be boring.. you might consider a bit of Gold or liker 1 color to break up the monotony..just a suggestion..

I'd love to see what you come up with.. as for the trailer itself.. go to youtube.com, and check out the videos for City commander or Powered commander.. use the search tool, and all of the trailer transformation will be revealed..

skywarp-2 wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:Guys, the launchers on Powered Commander have small, tight "U" clips on them. These clips have the peg which plugs into the robot/vehicle. I'm sure that the upgrade parts will have a different "U" clip in order to attach to the original City Commander.

are you sure about that..

No.

I mean it's not like I went and checked my CC, PC, and NC figures side by side and took the time to take apart the PC missile launchers to get you some kind of information on the matter.

I'm sure I was just imagining the fact that the missile launchers come apart into 4 distinct parts (2 missiles, launcher, attachment clip).

Whatever.

Counterpunch wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:Guys, the launchers on Powered Commander have small, tight "U" clips on them. These clips have the peg which plugs into the robot/vehicle. I'm sure that the upgrade parts will have a different "U" clip in order to attach to the original City Commander.

are you sure about that..

No.

I mean it's not like I went and checked my CC, PC, and NC figures side by side and took the time to take apart the PC missile launchers to get you some kind of information on the matter.

I'm sure I was just imagining the fact that the missile launchers come apart into 4 distinct parts (2 missiles, launcher, attachment clip).

Whatever.

whoa! you have had a consistent irritable streak here lately (hope all is fine).. I meant no offense by asking if you were sure, just trying to figure out the rational, or see if you have a link or something to that "U" clip.. I just wanted to understand what you were talking about is all..

skywarp-2 wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:Guys, the launchers on Powered Commander have small, tight "U" clips on them. These clips have the peg which plugs into the robot/vehicle. I'm sure that the upgrade parts will have a different "U" clip in order to attach to the original City Commander.

are you sure about that..

No.

I mean it's not like I went and checked my CC, PC, and NC figures side by side and took the time to take apart the PC missile launchers to get you some kind of information on the matter.

I'm sure I was just imagining the fact that the missile launchers come apart into 4 distinct parts (2 missiles, launcher, attachment clip).

Whatever.

whoa! you have had a consistent irritable streak here lately (hope all is fine).. I meant no offense by asking if you were sure, just trying to figure out the rational, or see if you have a link or something to that "U" clip.. I just wanted to understand what you were talking about is all..

It's cool. No worries.

The original CC does not have vehicle mounting holes for the launchers.

All I'm saying is that if FansProject is going to release the launchers seperately, they'll need to make them backwards compatible. The U-clips are the method for attachment, so they'll be what changes.

The U-clips are tight and almost seemless, so you can't tell they're there. Those will be the things that have to change IF the launchers are backwards compatible.

Counterpunch wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:Guys, the launchers on Powered Commander have small, tight "U" clips on them. These clips have the peg which plugs into the robot/vehicle. I'm sure that the upgrade parts will have a different "U" clip in order to attach to the original City Commander.

are you sure about that..

No.

I mean it's not like I went and checked my CC, PC, and NC figures side by side and took the time to take apart the PC missile launchers to get you some kind of information on the matter.

I'm sure I was just imagining the fact that the missile launchers come apart into 4 distinct parts (2 missiles, launcher, attachment clip).

Whatever.

whoa! you have had a consistent irritable streak here lately (hope all is fine).. I meant no offense by asking if you were sure, just trying to figure out the rational, or see if you have a link or something to that "U" clip.. I just wanted to understand what you were talking about is all..

It's cool. No worries.

The original CC does not have vehicle mounting holes for the launchers.

All I'm saying is that if FansProject is going to release the launchers seperately, they'll need to make them backwards compatible. The U-clips are the method for attachment, so they'll be what changes.

The U-clips are tight and almost seemless, so you can't tell they're there. Those will be the things that have to change IF the launchers are backwards compatible.

ahhh makes sense...I hope they do that, but if they do not, and If I have to, I'd buy the new release..new sculpted fixes are a good feature.. and the price ain't half bad..

Thanks for the info CP. I'm sure Fansproject will figure something out to make it compatible for the older kits, because that's the main reason people will be buying this add-on.

I'm sure(I hope) FP will include something with the TFX-03 to enable original run CP owners to utilize the missile launchers in alt mode. They made CP so there's no excuse for going "Oops! We didn't know there aren't holes to peg into.".

Now if just the launchers and UM rifle/CC Cannon are in the accessory pack...can City Commander deal with it?

This is off-topic, but why the heck aren't we getting a CJ reissue upgrade kit if Fansproject is willing to reissue City Commander? Seriously. I want an affordable CJ kit that's not a KO, and I know I'm not the only one.

It Is Him wrote:This is off-topic, but why the heck aren't we getting a CJ reissue upgrade kit if Fansproject is willing to reissue City Commander? Seriously. I want an affordable CJ kit that's not a KO, and I know I'm not the only one.

They stated that the Cliff upgarde mold was destroyed after it's run. The KO is actually really well done and suprisingly high quality for a KO. For the $30 or so it went for when I got it, I highly recommended it.

Yikes! I just checked for the Cliff set on eBay and the only one found is $90. Not worth that much.

skywarp-2 wrote:

LiKwid wrote:

zodconvoy wrote:

LiKwid wrote:Would it be crazy to buy this and then re-paint it? The more I look at it the more i want to add my own custom touch to it....

Hey once it's yours you can make it anything you want to! But be warned we can fully expect to get versions for Shadow and Diaclone upgrades. What repainting were you planning?

See that's the thing.. I love the classic colors but when I see something that is viewed as armor I just don't see it in those colors.I'n thinking out making it more metallic and worn. I 've tinkered with trying to make my own armor for this line but I could never get it all to fit into a trailer..Which leads me to another question.. How does the armor collapse into the trailer? I'm very curious..

wouldn't that be interesting, to see an Armor colored Armor made out of one of these trailer upgrades..

all silver might be boring.. you might consider a bit of Gold or liker 1 color to break up the monotony..just a suggestion..

I'd love to see what you come up with.. as for the trailer itself.. go to youtube.com, and check out the videos for City commander or Powered commander.. use the search tool, and all of the trailer transformation will be revealed..

I checked the galleries here On seibertron and it answered my question.. I had no idea the entire trailer was in fact the armor.. That's damn cool..I was almost gonna cancel the preorder but after seeing some video and the gallery it's a must have now..I can see why it was in such high demand..

As for the painting of it..I'm gonna have to wait to get it in hand before I know how it's gonna go..I agree on all silver being boring, I would defintly break it up a bit.. I would go for a more battle worn and used look.. Shades of siler with aluminum, some mithril silver and some washes.. Has anyone ever painted the armor before?

zodconvoy wrote:Yikes! I just checked for the Cliff set on eBay and the only one found is $90. Not worth that much.

You think thats bad... Have you seen what TFSource is charging!!!!

I'm glad I got mine back when it was first announced for $30

Firebird wrote:

zodconvoy wrote:Yikes! I just checked for the Cliff set on eBay and the only one found is $90. Not worth that much.

You think thats bad... Have you seen what TFSource is charging!!!!

I'm glad I got mine back when it was first announced for $30

Holy I guess it's a good thing I don't need that set then .. That's ridiculous.Has the CC set ever gotten that high?

LiKwid wrote:

Firebird wrote:

zodconvoy wrote:Yikes! I just checked for the Cliff set on eBay and the only one found is $90. Not worth that much.

You think thats bad... Have you seen what TFSource is charging!!!!

I'm glad I got mine back when it was first announced for $30

Holy I guess it's a good thing I don't need that set then .. That's ridiculous.Has the CC set ever gotten that high?

At one point City Commander was selling for $250 when paired with Ultra Magnus. That probably won't happen again for a few years.

But I'd reconsider my stance on KOs if I could get a KO Cliff set for under $50 and if it was of EXCEPTIONALLY high quality, but I've read on these forums that it's not. For the original, $350 sounds reasonable considering that it was produced in such low numbers.

I have an original release CC, and love it, and I pre-ordered the upgrade set, so I am hoping it fits well, as I don't feel comfortable altering it in any way. I could live without it being able to connect in trailer mode, cause mine is pretty much pemanatly in bot mode.

--B-- wrote:I have an original release CC, and love it, and I pre-ordered the upgrade set, so I am hoping it fits well, as I don't feel comfortable altering it in any way. I could live without it being able to connect in trailer mode, cause mine is pretty much pemanatly in bot mode.

I'm hoping I can convince myself to paint once it gets here.. Thank god for the galleries here.. it's helping in the pre-production process. Is the re re-lease going to differ other than the added rocket launchers in anyway or is it to early to tell?