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victoryconvoy wrote:

monstergrotusque wrote:i just don't think Hasbro will put the resources into an armoured UM. Or design it properly.
I bet they'd even make it scout class for crying out loud. That's a ridiculous statement of course but i just don't have the faith in Hasbro to design him properly. Their best so far was G1.

do you think its too much effort to upsise a figure they have?Im not trying to be rude in asking the question ,i just dont really know what goes in making a figure also for me r.i.d magnus was really cool,fansproject being the best and i'll always love the g1 the most cause it was the first transformer i ever had

Upsizing molds is for poor KO companies, not for a company with a reputation like Hasbro. There have only been two single instances of upsizing/downsizing molds, and only between Hasbro and Takara:

1) Hasbro's Energon Megatron (Leader) and Takara's Superlink Galvatron (roughly Ultra)
2) Hasbro's Cybertron Starscream (Supreme) and Takara's Galaxy Force Starscream (Voyager)

victoryconvoy wrote:

monstergrotusque wrote:i just don't think Hasbro will put the resources into an armoured UM. Or design it properly.
I bet they'd even make it scout class for crying out loud. That's a ridiculous statement of course but i just don't have the faith in Hasbro to design him properly. Their best so far was G1.

do you think its too much effort to upsise a figure they have?Im not trying to be rude in asking the question ,i just dont really know what goes in making a figure also for me r.i.d magnus was really cool,fansproject being the best and i'll always love the g1 the most cause it was the first transformer i ever had

I'd just rather see the effort put into another character period.

Like i said earlier, some Dinobots or a team leader or two. Like a Hun-Grrr or Scattershot with some scouts for limbs later down the line. That would be a good way to start introducing some combiners.

Or turn the decision making process too shuffle and revisit some characters that don't get alot of attention or that aren't mainstream.

I'm not trying to knock the UM fans out there at all.

monstergrotusque wrote:

victoryconvoy wrote:

monstergrotusque wrote:i just don't think Hasbro will put the resources into an armoured UM. Or design it properly.
I bet they'd even make it scout class for crying out loud. That's a ridiculous statement of course but i just don't have the faith in Hasbro to design him properly. Their best so far was G1.

do you think its too much effort to upsise a figure they have?Im not trying to be rude in asking the question ,i just dont really know what goes in making a figure also for me r.i.d magnus was really cool,fansproject being the best and i'll always love the g1 the most cause it was the first transformer i ever had

sorry i misunderstood in that case i would love to see all of the 87 target masters and 87 head masters i dont really care if they dont come with there gimmic i just like the look of alot of those toys

I'd just rather see the effort put into another character period.

Like i said earlier, some Dinobots or a team leader or two. Like a Hun-Grrr or Scattershot with some scouts for limbs later down the line. That would be a good way to start introducing some combiners.

Or turn the decision making process too shuffle and revisit some characters that don't get alot of attention or that aren't mainstream.

I'm not trying to knock the UM fans out there at all.

monstergrotusque wrote:

victoryconvoy wrote:

monstergrotusque wrote:i just don't think Hasbro will put the resources into an armoured UM. Or design it properly.
I bet they'd even make it scout class for crying out loud. That's a ridiculous statement of course but i just don't have the faith in Hasbro to design him properly. Their best so far was G1.

do you think its too much effort to upsise a figure they have?Im not trying to be rude in asking the question ,i just dont really know what goes in making a figure also for me r.i.d magnus was really cool,fansproject being the best and i'll always love the g1 the most cause it was the first transformer i ever had

I'd just rather see the effort put into another character period.

Like i said earlier, some Dinobots or a team leader or two. Like a Hun-Grrr or Scattershot with some scouts for limbs later down the line. That would be a good way to start introducing some combiners.

Or turn the decision making process too shuffle and revisit some characters that don't get alot of attention or that aren't mainstream.

I'm not trying to knock the UM fans out there at all.

I hear ya. I'd rather they do just that. The Decepticons could use a lot of love in the new Generations/RTS lines. I'd love for them to make Shockwave, Blitzwing, Slipstream, and the Insecticons. Also, as mentioned before, the rest of the Dinobots would be awesome.

As far as upsizing a character goes, they did it with Seaspray and Powerglide, so why not Warpath. I would like to see him done in a Voyager class. Well, i always thought he should be bigger anyways........ he's a tank for Cybertron's sake. And what's up with not doing anymore Dinobots? Grimlock gets love, but not the rest of them? I would love to see the rest of them get made. Combiners?- now that's a worn out rant for me- The Stunticons- we need more combiners and I don't mean PCC........

I definitely want the rest of the Triple Changers in Deluxe size. I want them all to match. And I think it'd be cool if they followed suit with Classics 2.0 and released ULTRA versions of Hot Spot and Motormaster. And, as for repaints, you could get an R.I.D. Optimus and Magnus respectively.

Shockwave is a MUST. I think it'd be nice to have a Soundwave and a Blaster because Music/Device Label was just too.... Pricey.

But the Decepticons need more love, most importantly.

Springer and Blaster were already done in the Classics line. They were just disappointing. But they were done, you guys have your Classics Springer and Blaster.

Ultra Magnus was already done too, but I can see where some guys are coming from. I think it's FAR more likely it'll just be another white Prime if they do another of him, though.

i like the idea of new combiners. even if we only get 2 gestalt teams (fingers crossed for g2 styled defensor/menasaur) i hate how the energon combiners turned out (IE: the wide stance that makes them look like they're in an old cowboy movie) and that they keep rereleasing them.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Springer and Blaster were already done in the Classics line. They were just disappointing. But they were done, you guys have your Classics Springer and Blaster.

Ultra Magnus was already done too, but I can see where some guys are coming from. I think it's FAR more likely it'll just be another white Prime if they do another of him, though.

True. But there was a Classics 2.0 AND 3.0 Blurr. Ha.

Blurring the lines, so to speak. And there's about 10 Classics Optimus Primes.

craggy wrote:Blurring the lines, so to speak. And there's about 10 Classics Optimus Primes.

No kidding! Classics 1.o, Nemesis, UM, Shattered G, Henkei, Lucky Draw, I can't remember if he is in one of the Sons of Cybertrons sets or not, and like a freakin TON of upgrades via 3rd party!

I wish I was as popular as that mould!

Ha! Don't forget the many Bumblebees in the movie line. Point is, if they can release multiple iterations of one character in one line, I'm sure they can do it for others. Of course, this is only possible on Hasbro/Takara's whim.

AutobotJazz87 wrote:Ha! Don't forget the many Bumblebees in the movie line. Point is, if they can release multiple iterations of one character in one line, I'm sure they can do it for others. Of course, this is only possible on Hasbro/Takara's whim.

You are so right. Logic need not apply. I'm just waiting for the day they do something really wacky, like a MP Blistleback.

I would buy a generation/rts voyager or deluxe class warpath, wheelie, cosmos, dinobots, magnus or any number of other g1 characters.
It depends on how they interpret it. I think the upcoming wreck-gar looks terrible but kup, scourge and perceptor look great (my opinion only).
I would love to see a new version of runabout and runamuck.

blotbot wrote:I would buy a generation/rts voyager or deluxe class warpath, wheelie, cosmos, dinobots, magnus or any number of other g1 characters.
It depends on how they interpret it. I think the upcoming wreck-gar looks terrible but kup, scourge and perceptor look great (my opinion only).
I would love to see a new version of runabout and runamuck.

G1 good, yes. Wreck-gar easily looks 10x better the G1 toy. Runamuck already a classic 2.0.

GetRightRobot wrote:

AutobotJazz87 wrote:Ha! Don't forget the many Bumblebees in the movie line. Point is, if they can release multiple iterations of one character in one line, I'm sure they can do it for others. Of course, this is only possible on Hasbro/Takara's whim.

You are so right. Logic need not apply. I'm just waiting for the day they do something really wacky, like a MP Blistleback.

Definitely wacky for an MP If they do release him in any class, let's just hope he doesn't have any gold plastic; the toy was so frail

blotbot wrote:I would buy a generation/rts voyager or deluxe class warpath, wheelie, cosmos, dinobots, magnus or any number of other g1 characters.
It depends on how they interpret it. I think the upcoming wreck-gar looks terrible but kup, scourge and perceptor look great (my opinion only).
I would love to see a new version of runabout and runamuck.

Yeah, I see what you mean about interpretation of a character. Wreck-Gar to me looks okay, but not "jump off the edge of your seat" okay. I don't hate him and I'll still get him if only to complete the Neo-G1 collection. Also, like you said, I would love to have Warpath, Cosmos, and Wheelie up'd in class from Legends - a class that makes sense for their alt modes. Powerglide is a great example of this and so is Seaspray.

Yes, Seaspray was wonderful. He made break a rule. I shelve my bots according to toy series. He found his way onto my classics 2.0 shelf with grey AND red Powerglide. Only exception I've ever made.

GetRightRobot wrote: Runamuck already a classic 2.0.

I think that's an rotf legends class.
I just mean I'd like to see some neo-g1, at least deluxe, decepticon cars. any of the stunticons would do as well.

blotbot wrote:

GetRightRobot wrote: Runamuck already a classic 2.0.

I think that's an rotf legends class.
I just mean I'd like to see some neo-g1, at least deluxe, decepticon cars. any of the stunticons would do as well.

I love Neo G1. Truly. I could even handle seeing the Stunticons even if (please don't lynch me) they didn't combine. The way Sideswipe and Sunstreaker were New Lambo's. It would be neat.
But seriously. Universe (often called classics 2.0) 5 figure Costco exclusive. Runamuck. Not a movie-verse mould at all.

AutobotJazz87 wrote:Yeah, I see what you mean about interpretation of a character. Wreck-Gar to me looks okay, but not "jump off the edge of your seat" okay. I don't hate him and I'll still get him if only to complete the Neo-G1 collection. Also, like you said, I would love to have Warpath, Cosmos, and Wheelie up'd in class from Legends - a class that makes sense for their alt modes. Powerglide is a great example of this and so is Seaspray.

I've been going back and forth on seaspray. I as a rule have been staying away from the movieverse but he does look good. I missed out on powerglide, maybe I'll find him at tj maxx or ebay.

blotbot wrote:

AutobotJazz87 wrote:Yeah, I see what you mean about interpretation of a character. Wreck-Gar to me looks okay, but not "jump off the edge of your seat" okay. I don't hate him and I'll still get him if only to complete the Neo-G1 collection. Also, like you said, I would love to have Warpath, Cosmos, and Wheelie up'd in class from Legends - a class that makes sense for their alt modes. Powerglide is a great example of this and so is Seaspray.

I've been going back and forth on seaspray. I as a rule have been staying away from the movieverse but he does look good. I missed out on powerglide, maybe I'll find him at tj maxx or ebay.

Oh man, I was in the same boat with Seaspray. I would always walk down the aisle, debating on whether or not I should pick him up. I finally broke down and bought him along with Skullgrin the week of Christmas and let me tell you, he's worth it. A shelfwarmer yes, but he's an awesome toy. He fits in very well with the Generations/RTS line too, much like Lugnut will. I'd say, if you're still on the fence about him, wait until he's at discount otherwise my personal opinion would be to pick him up when you see him

GetRightRobot wrote:I love Neo G1. Truly. I could even handle seeing the Stunticons even if (please don't lynch me) they didn't combine. The way Sideswipe and Sunstreaker were New Lambo's. It would be neat.
But seriously. Universe (often called classics 2.0) 5 figure Costco exclusive. Runamuck. Not a movie-verse mould at all.

yeah, it looks o.k. but... (I actually just found it on ebay for like $7, what the hell why not.)
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Runamuck_%28ROTF%29

blotbot wrote:

GetRightRobot wrote:I love Neo G1. Truly. I could even handle seeing the Stunticons even if (please don't lynch me) they didn't combine. The way Sideswipe and Sunstreaker were New Lambo's. It would be neat.
But seriously. Universe (often called classics 2.0) 5 figure Costco exclusive. Runamuck. Not a movie-verse mould at all.

yeah, it looks o.k. but... (I actually just found it on ebay for like $7, what the hell why not.)
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Runamuck_%28ROTF%29

If there was a white one to go with him, he would be greatly improved. The original version of that mold was Sipeswipe (i think) from Armada, not very good at all.

OK my bad. released once in Cybertron packaging and then again in Costco Universe fivepack, along with Prime, Blurr, Longrack and Cyclonus. Yes. Sorry.

Blurrz wrote:Comics that come with toys don't mean anything. Animated Jetfire and Jetstorm's comic had Animated Perceptor, Wheeljack and Red Alert. All 3 characters never received toys.

Completely different situation.

The intent to make those toys undoubtedly existed. Animated was stopped, and so the toys stopped. Had animated continued, I'm sure we would have gotten many more toys based on those characters and more.

The classics/universe stuff has no cartoon attached. It's a toyline that's really just that. Yes, it has older things attached to it. Though, none of that is modern. A comic is made for some bits of story. What's an 8 year old kid suppose to think of all these characters? Well, the comic helps spell it out.
The comic absolutely shows direction and intent, as did the animated one. It's not a 100% thing, but I wouldn't ignore it.

I hope we do get a warpath and a mp Galvatron. I hope we don't see a new classics UM. I'm happy with the Fansproject one and don't want to see the prices drop mainly because of what I spent. Makes me wish I picked up more Classics UM when they were on clearance for $13 at target. Also I doubt HasTak can make a better springer or UM