The Energon Pub

Oh stop whinging about it and buy the bloody thing allready.

Well, when you look back at the recolored version of Megatron Classics in Metallic Silver and Black coloring, you see the intent of the design. It looks like a futuristic short nosed revolver.. which isn't half bad. Granted I agree with the negative points:
-safety orange
-neon green
-moth wings
-mess of a transformation (MP makes him tame though)
-shell transformer
-nerf gun
-PBC on bottom of arm
-scope is blurry
-eyes are not red
-scope is not secure
-what's with the purple?
-hard to balance

But if I'm to atleast give an idea of what i consider the best Megatron, i will have to break them down into series, and for that to be a proper assessment of the different versions, because Megatron in Beast Wars is completely different in concept then the one in Generation One, and vice versa. Just like the Armada/Energon/cybertron Megatron is different from the G-1 and Beast Wars versions..

I'm linking choice images through the seibertron gallery for reference if you forgot what each bot looked like..

In Generation One:
1. MP Megatron (he is the best representation of the original cartoon design to date, he has great articulation, and is complex enough to make him worth the buy. Not to mention the sheer size and the accompanying extras. He is a bit expensive, and is not for Children to play with for he is a bit breakable, but he is a Masterpiece, and as such meant as a collectors item for G-1 enthusiasts.)
BotMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... &image=123
AltMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=47
Revised: MP Megatron is the most faithful...

2. Reissue Megatron (nice to have the original back, he's a pure work of nostalgia, and is why he is 2nd in my list, and that is saying alot, because his Bot mode wasn't all that and really had a lot of work that the MP version corrected.. so he would be 2nd in my book because even though his Bot mode is outdated, he is still the closest thing to the Orginial cartoon designed Megatron, which even Beast Wars hailed as the best version.)
REVISED:Reissue is the next closest thing to the Original Gun design/ cartoon Megatron..

BotMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=57
AltMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... =2&image=7

3.Megatron G-1 Classics Deluxe ( I would have to choose this version over the Megatron Classics Megatron "Nerf" Gun, simply because this bot has alot of what I would look for in a Megatron Tank. It is a marked improvement over the G-2 Tank megatron in design and though I would prefer the colors to be a dark grey and or urban camo, it does look quite nice. It envokes a feeling of the original Marvel UKI comics for some reason, a very nice figure. Not to mention it compliments Optimus prime very nicely in the 2 pack.)
BotMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=50
AltMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=19

4. Classics Megatron ( affectionately or menacingly called the "Nerf" Megqatron, this version is supposed to represent a cybertronian Blaster, and is colored in bright colors due to US Gun toy laws. Its ok, and has a Robotmode that resembles the G-1 Megatron. The only reason I would not choose this over the tank is that in G-1 they take on Human weapons and disguises, and a cybertronian gun sticks out and doesn't fit the mold.. now had they made him a revolver and still had an orange tip it would be a little more believeable as Megatron earth version..not to mention the other bad qualitites we touched on, but still He's 4th on my list becasue a repainted version of him would make him look badass, and his bot form is very well executed in design.)
BotMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=64
AltMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=28

5. Titanium Megatron (He would have been like number 3 on this list had they released him in a larger format and with a little less diecast, more plastic. His altmode is fantastic and superb even better then the classics Tank megatron, I love his Botmode, but If i was to add anything I would have had then add a large rocket launcher to the back of the Tank, whcih then could become his arm canon, not too big a fan of the shoulder one, but still a nice robot, and again gives me reflections of the Marvel UK Transformers Comics..the face sculpt is fantastic!! Man that tank alt mode is wonderful, nice colors too...a definate Buy)
BotMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=86
AltMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=23

6.) War Within Megatron (a great likeness, the only problem is he is in the titanium series, too much diecast.. See I advocate diecast, but its in a 30% diecast to 70% Plastic ratio that I consider its best uses.. if there is too much diecast the toy suffers, so my opinion of the Titanium series is what prompts me to place these Megatrons low on the list..that said had they released WW Megatron in the regular line up he'd be 4th under the regular Titanium Megatron.. they are simply nice designs and great alt and robot modes, they actually compliment each other.. and would work as the updated "gun law safe" revised Megatron for G-1. those are what the Classics line should have released..)
BotMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=80
AltMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=29

Genration 2:

1.Megatron G2 Green Version ( ok not bad in altmode, seriously lacking in Botmode sdue to articulation and elongated chin, but he was faithful to the design, much has improved since his debut..if your into G2 he's the best version..)
BotMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=44
AltMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... =1&image=6

2. Meagtron G2 Purple (ok super soaker weapon aside and the fact he was smaller, i really like this version, there could have been some improvements and overall, he's not that bad. He's armed to the teeth, and has some cool stickers, but the Purple Tank...?? well that is something I don't think i would ever see, unless they made "Legally Blonde" in charge of the military..still nice bot and alt modes..)
BotMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=30
AltMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... =1&image=0

Ok, well thats G-1 up to G-2 so far, and since I'm not really trying to write a novel here, thats atleast my take on the toys thus far..Beast wars is entirely another "animal" heee hee , in itself..if you want me to do a review on who i think is the best in Beast wars let me know and I'll do the same thing..I will tell you the best version of Megatron for me is the reissue 10th anniversary version.. he just looks awesome, the colors are wonderful, and the Galvatron colored variant is sweet too!!

How can MP Megatron be "the best representation of the original cartoon design to date" and yet the G1 reissue "is still the closest thing to the Orginial cartoon designed Megatron"?

Anyway, I still don't see how Classics is hard to balance or why the scope is not secure.

MP Megatron probably is the best. The only thing I can think of that any of the others have over him is durability, but like you say, that's due to the different purposes of the pieces.

Leonardo wrote:How can MP Megatron be "the best representation of the original cartoon design to date" and yet the G1 reissue "is still the closest thing to the Orginial cartoon designed Megatron"?

Anyway, I still don't see how Classics is hard to balance or why the scope is not secure.

MP Megatron probably is the best. The only thing I can think of that any of the others have over him is durability, but like you say, that's due to the different purposes of the pieces.

Thas simply because MP Megatron looks more like the cartoon, has articulation, and is an overall badass transformer..

The reissue and original Megatron, though craptastic in Bot mode with no articulation and head movement or not so similar on the face likeness is still Megatron as a Gun, whereas anything since, with the exception of the MP Megatron is a tank or something else, so the reissue is still a great representation, all-be-it, not a Masterpiece like the MP Megatron, but he's still a gun and looks more like the original then anything else..everything else is different, and thats the only reason i place him as 2nd in my review.. simply for the fact that he is a representation of the cartoon version..

Ah, it sounded like you were saying they were both the most faithful representation of the cartoon Megatron.

Leonardo wrote:Ah, it sounded like you were saying they were both the most faithful representation of the cartoon Megatron.

sorry about that...

MP Megatron is the most faithful...


Reissue is the next closest thing to the Original Gun design/ cartoon Megatron..


Everything released since is different.. and changes what the orginalk was.. because of the mass shifting not being believable, or the gun laws.. to me though the original gun Megatron from the cartoon was the best..

But, I would except a Masterpiece Megatron Tank from the titanium series, with rocket launcher as arm canon.. that would be nice..

What if Takara released a Masterpiece Megatron with the silencer and stock, would it be the best in all categories then?

skywarp-2 wrote:...
In Generation One:
1. MP Megatron (he is the best representation of the original cartoon design to date, he has great articulation, and is complex enough to make him worth the buy. Not to mention the sheer size and the accompanying extras. He is a bit expensive, and is not for Children to play with for he is a bit breakable, but he is a Masterpiece, and as such meant as a collectors item for G-1 enthusiasts.) Agreed. As it was intended to be just that

BotMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... &image=123
AltMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=47
Revised: MP Megatron is the most faithful...

2. Reissue Megatron (nice to have the original back, he's a pure work of nostalgia, and is why he is 2nd in my list, and that is saying alot, because his Bot mode wasn't all that and really had a lot of work that the MP version corrected.. so he would be 2nd in my book because even though his Bot mode is outdated, he is still the closest thing to the Orginial cartoon designed Megatron, which even Beast Wars hailed as the best version.)
REVISED:Reissue is the next closest thing to the Original Gun design/ cartoon Megatron..
Not quite, but hell, he is the original, and was supposed to evoke the Cartoon Megatron if nothing more
BotMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=57
AltMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... =2&image=7

3.Megatron G-1 Classics Deluxe ( I would have to choose this version over the Megatron Classics Megatron "Nerf" Gun, simply because this bot has alot of what I would look for in a Megatron Tank. It is a marked improvement over the G-2 Tank megatron in design and though I would prefer the colors to be a dark grey and or urban camo, it does look quite nice. It envokes a feeling of the original Marvel UKI comics for some reason, a very nice figure. Not to mention it compliments Optimus prime very nicely in the 2 pack.)He would be higher up the ladder, placing him only under MP. if only he did not have that dinky little spinning arm weapon. That really adds nothing to the toy, but actually detracts from it. A Real arm, with a big fusion cannon (heck even the same weapon, but arm mounted instead of arm replacing) as an arm cannon would have been easier to implement, and would have looked 1000 times better. A good Megatron, with just one flaw.
BotMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=50
AltMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=19

4. Classics Megatron ( affectionately or menacingly called the "Nerf" Megqatron, this version is supposed to represent a cybertronian Blaster, and is colored in bright colors due to US Gun toy laws. Its ok, and has a Robotmode that resembles the G-1 Megatron. The only reason I would not choose this over the tank is that in G-1 they take on Human weapons and disguises, and a cybertronian gun sticks out and doesn't fit the mold.. now had they made him a revolver and still had an orange tip it would be a little more believeable as Megatron earth version..not to mention the other bad qualitites we touched on, but still He's 4th on my list becasue a repainted version of him would make him look badass, and his bot form is very well executed in design.) I'm not a big fan of this Megs, only because I was never a big fan of G1 Gun Megs. Don't get me wrong, the Cartoon Megs was an awesome villain, but the toy was never what I wanted from a toy. I always wanted either a life size Starscream to hold him, or a smaller version of him, that Starscream could hold. In any case this one would loose a few positions IMHO
BotMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=64
AltMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=28

5. Titanium Megatron (He would have been like number 3 on this list had they released him in a larger format and with a little less diecast, more plastic. His altmode is fantastic and superb even better then the classics Tank megatron, I love his Botmode, but If i was to add anything I would have had then add a large rocket launcher to the back of the Tank, whcih then could become his arm canon, not too big a fan of the shoulder one, but still a nice robot, and again gives me reflections of the Marvel UK Transformers Comics..the face sculpt is fantastic!! Man that tank alt mode is wonderful, nice colors too...a definate Buy)Other than the insane floppiness, and its come-apart-ness. (good word there ) He's not a bad looking Megs. And yes and arm cannon instead of a shoulder mounted one, would have improved the figure.
BotMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=86
AltMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=23


6.) War Within Megatron (a great likeness, the only problem is he is in the titanium series, too much diecast.. See I advocate diecast, but its in a 30% diecast to 70% Plastic ratio that I consider its best uses.. if there is too much diecast the toy suffers, so my opinion of the Titanium series is what prompts me to place these Megatrons low on the list..that said had they released WW Megatron in the regular line up he'd be 4th under the regular Titanium Megatron.. they are simply nice designs and great alt and robot modes, they actually compliment each other.. and would work as the updated "gun law safe" revised Megatron for G-1. those are what the Classics line should have released..)I'm still looking for one of these. He looks pretty good. And the Arm cannon makes him look even better.
BotMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=80
AltMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=29

...

Can't say much about the G2 versions, since i never owned them nor find them very appealing.

As for the More Recent Megatrons i would have to place them as follows.

My personal Favorite: R.I.D. Megatron/Galvatron
Character wise he was a still and evil scheming Megs, which appeals to me. Toy version: he was a very versatile Megs. Even if some modes did not really look like what they claimed to be. Poseability alone makes this a great Megatron.


Armada Megatron: A Tank Megatron is always a good Megatron. Although limited Articulation and no arm gun make this one loose a few points. Still great incarnation of Megs, if not so much in the Cartoon.

Energon Megs: Plane Megs was more of a Galvatron homage, and as such is low in the list. Don't really think of Megs as a Plane. But hey he looked good.

Cybertron Megs: This one I just really don't like A futuristic Batmobile, does not represent Megatron at all.

Overcracker wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:...
In Generation One:
1. MP Megatron (he is the best representation of the original cartoon design to date, he has great articulation, and is complex enough to make him worth the buy. Not to mention the sheer size and the accompanying extras. He is a bit expensive, and is not for Children to play with for he is a bit breakable, but he is a Masterpiece, and as such meant as a collectors item for G-1 enthusiasts.) Agreed. As it was intended to be just that

BotMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... &image=123
AltMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=47
Revised: MP Megatron is the most faithful...

2. Reissue Megatron (nice to have the original back, he's a pure work of nostalgia, and is why he is 2nd in my list, and that is saying alot, because his Bot mode wasn't all that and really had a lot of work that the MP version corrected.. so he would be 2nd in my book because even though his Bot mode is outdated, he is still the closest thing to the Orginial cartoon designed Megatron, which even Beast Wars hailed as the best version.)
REVISED:Reissue is the next closest thing to the Original Gun design/ cartoon Megatron..
Not quite, but hell, he is the original, and was supposed to evoke the Cartoon Megatron if nothing more
BotMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=57
AltMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... =2&image=7

3.Megatron G-1 Classics Deluxe ( I would have to choose this version over the Megatron Classics Megatron "Nerf" Gun, simply because this bot has alot of what I would look for in a Megatron Tank. It is a marked improvement over the G-2 Tank megatron in design and though I would prefer the colors to be a dark grey and or urban camo, it does look quite nice. It envokes a feeling of the original Marvel UKI comics for some reason, a very nice figure. Not to mention it compliments Optimus prime very nicely in the 2 pack.)He would be higher up the ladder, placing him only under MP. if only he did not have that dinky little spinning arm weapon. That really adds nothing to the toy, but actually detracts from it. A Real arm, with a big fusion cannon (heck even the same weapon, but arm mounted instead of arm replacing) as an arm cannon would have been easier to implement, and would have looked 1000 times better. A good Megatron, with just one flaw.
BotMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=50
AltMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=19

4. Classics Megatron ( affectionately or menacingly called the "Nerf" Megqatron, this version is supposed to represent a cybertronian Blaster, and is colored in bright colors due to US Gun toy laws. Its ok, and has a Robotmode that resembles the G-1 Megatron. The only reason I would not choose this over the tank is that in G-1 they take on Human weapons and disguises, and a cybertronian gun sticks out and doesn't fit the mold.. now had they made him a revolver and still had an orange tip it would be a little more believeable as Megatron earth version..not to mention the other bad qualitites we touched on, but still He's 4th on my list becasue a repainted version of him would make him look badass, and his bot form is very well executed in design.) I'm not a big fan of this Megs, only because I was never a big fan of G1 Gun Megs. Don't get me wrong, the Cartoon Megs was an awesome villain, but the toy was never what I wanted from a toy. I always wanted either a life size Starscream to hold him, or a smaller version of him, that Starscream could hold. In any case this one would loose a few positions IMHO
BotMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=64
AltMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=28

5. Titanium Megatron (He would have been like number 3 on this list had they released him in a larger format and with a little less diecast, more plastic. His altmode is fantastic and superb even better then the classics Tank megatron, I love his Botmode, but If i was to add anything I would have had then add a large rocket launcher to the back of the Tank, whcih then could become his arm canon, not too big a fan of the shoulder one, but still a nice robot, and again gives me reflections of the Marvel UK Transformers Comics..the face sculpt is fantastic!! Man that tank alt mode is wonderful, nice colors too...a definate Buy)Other than the insane floppiness, and its come-apart-ness. (good word there ) He's not a bad looking Megs. And yes and arm cannon instead of a shoulder mounted one, would have improved the figure.
BotMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=86
AltMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=23


6.) War Within Megatron (a great likeness, the only problem is he is in the titanium series, too much diecast.. See I advocate diecast, but its in a 30% diecast to 70% Plastic ratio that I consider its best uses.. if there is too much diecast the toy suffers, so my opinion of the Titanium series is what prompts me to place these Megatrons low on the list..that said had they released WW Megatron in the regular line up he'd be 4th under the regular Titanium Megatron.. they are simply nice designs and great alt and robot modes, they actually compliment each other.. and would work as the updated "gun law safe" revised Megatron for G-1. those are what the Classics line should have released..)I'm still looking for one of these. He looks pretty good. And the Arm cannon makes him look even better.
BotMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=80
AltMode:
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=29

...

Can't say much about the G2 versions, since i never owned them nor find them very appealing.

As for the More Recent Megatrons i would have to place them as follows.

My personal Favorite: R.I.D. Megatron/Galvatron
Character wise he was a still and evil scheming Megs, which appeals to me. Toy version: he was a very versatile Megs. Even if some modes did not really look like what they claimed to be. Poseability alone makes this a great Megatron.


Armada Megatron: A Tank Megatron is always a good Megatron. Although limited Articulation and no arm gun make this one loose a few points. Still great incarnation of Megs, if not so much in the Cartoon.

Energon Megs: Plane Megs was more of a Galvatron homage, and as such is low in the list. Don't really think of Megs as a Plane. But hey he looked good.

Cybertron Megs: This one I just really don't like A futuristic Batmobile, does not represent Megatron at all.

Nice review, could you copy and place it in my Megatron buy and review thread, i think it would be nice for newcomers to see other peoples opinions too..

Done.

Overcracker wrote:Done.

thanks man.. your cool.. i like your points of view..

Leonardo wrote:Hang on, chap, a lot of those defects are to do with colour, as I've indicated!

The PBC (I presume that's the fusion cannon, but what does PBC stand for?)

Hey Leonardo, sorry didn't modify the list, I just repeated
everything, and those are just a collected list of opinions
from various people.

I just wanted a collection of negative points.
so sorry if you feel like he's being dissed.

PBC = Particle Beam Cannon

here are some positive notes so you see I'm not biased

-cool bot mode
-big feet for balance
-nice big decepticon symbol on scope
-scope actually has crosshairs
-gun clicks!
-wings contain mini-con peg & port!!!!!!!
-nice to have cannon back on arm
-nice to have a gun mode
-one of the BEST Meg faces
-KICK ASS light piping
-curve on shins remenecent of cartoon
-interesting, above average in challenge transformation
-good articulation, poseable

ok so those are awesome positive points,
but when I compare this guy to another guy in the
voyager class..... my favorite.... VECTOR PRIME!
I feel like they are selling classics Meg on
mostly name value.

VP
-mini-con safeguard
-cyber planet key
-stashable sword
-battle attack sounds
-shooting missile
-mini-con ports

Classics Meg
-mini-con ports
-mini-con pegs
-light piping eyes
-clicking trigger/crosshairs <--either is not much, really
forcing it because he doesn't have other features!
they should have given him at least 1 more.

the energy morning star weapon would have been so easy
& nice. something like energon ravege's tail!

And, since just one of his leg becomes the handle to the
gun, it would have been so nice to have a magazine you
can pull out and inside it stores a sword hopefully
similar in design to G1 Meg's sword.

if all that is too much, then just make him come with a
cool unique mini-con then
it would put him in the top 3 of my collection.

Personally I've liked pretty much every transforming Megatron ever released. All have their own charm, and are briliiant for different reasons. I also am a great fan of the original Megatron gun transformer.

It'd be the same for Op Prime, but fattimus Prime is just slightly beyond acceptable for me...

Pulling the trigger doesn't shoot anything.

My main complaint, though? He makes all the Unicron Trilogy Megatrons (except Jungle Planet Megs, who uses the kick-awesome BWX Megs mold) seem to REALLY suck.

Particle Beam Cannon, of course!

You don't have to apologise for dissing a toy, wympr. Everyone's entitled to their opinion and it's not like we're discussing my mother.

Comparing him to Vector Prime is just cruel, though, as Megatron doesn't stand a chance! I think the only thing Classics Megatron has over Vector Prime is light-piping (which I personally am a sucker for) and a relatively-complex transformation.

On a side note, how did they explain Jungle Planet Megatron and Optimus Primal in the Cybertron line?

Leonardo wrote:#-o Particle Beam Cannon, of course!

You don't have to apologise for dissing a toy, wympr. Everyone's entitled to their opinion and it's not like we're discussing my mother.

Comparing him to Vector Prime is just cruel, though, as Megatron doesn't stand a chance! I think the only thing Classics Megatron has over Vector Prime is light-piping (which I personally am a sucker for) and a relatively-complex transformation.

On a side note, how did they explain Jungle Planet Megatron and Optimus Primal in the Cybertron line?

PBC, hehehe I'm old school
comparing him to VP is cruel? oh well, hopefully he will
look like a fitting opponent when next to him, I already
ordered the dude.

not sure about the beast guys in cyb.
I watch bits and pieces of armada, energon, & cyb
on youtube, and everytime, I'm like huh?

I stopped watching the tv shows after beastwars and I
think I did the right thing!

Believe me, you did. There are no real stories in any of the series. Armada was superior show wise. After they had finished messing around with mini-shits, and returned to Cybertron, it got pretty good.

And I loved the first episode of Armada- not including the human bits. Megatron looked brill, and Prime looked like his RiD incarnation. Plus, the intro showing the tfs preparing for war looked good. I saw alot of G1 tfs running about and generally acting like headless chickens. Very G1 accurate

Lord Crump wrote:Believe me, you did. There are no real stories in any of the series. Armada was superior show wise. After they had finished messing around with mini-shits, and returned to Cybertron, it got pretty good.

And I loved the first episode of Armada- not including the human bits. Megatron looked brill, and Prime looked like his RiD incarnation. Plus, the intro showing the tfs preparing for war looked good. I saw alot of G1 tfs running about and generally acting like headless chickens. Very G1 accurate

What I have seen of Armada looked good (I havnt got past earth yet though).

As for the Primal and t-rex megatron, they didnt explain them. For a start they came out a LONG time after the series, they were just another couple of repaints to extend the line.

You could argue that they are the cyb univere's version of the G1 universe's Beast Wars. There's nothing in Cybertron that says a similar beast wars couldnt have taken place in that universe.

The whole 'find the minicons' thing gets pretty old after a while.
But the characters do have some depth to them, and I like the animation.

Redimus wrote:

Lord Crump wrote:Believe me, you did. There are no real stories in any of the series. Armada was superior show wise. After they had finished messing around with mini-shits, and returned to Cybertron, it got pretty good.

And I loved the first episode of Armada- not including the human bits. Megatron looked brill, and Prime looked like his RiD incarnation. Plus, the intro showing the tfs preparing for war looked good. I saw alot of G1 tfs running about and generally acting like headless chickens. Very G1 accurate

What I have seen of Armada looked good (I havnt got past earth yet though).

As for the Primal and t-rex megatron, they didnt explain them. For a start they came out a LONG time after the series, they were just another couple of repaints to extend the line.

You could argue that they are the cyb univere's version of the G1 universe's Beast Wars. There's nothing in Cybertron that says a similar beast wars couldnt have taken place in that universe.

Good Heavens, I am so stupid. Why didn't I think of that?

If I remember the Hasbro site bios correctly, apparently the atmosphere and the power of the Jungle Cyber Key changed the two leaders into powerful beast forms.

Having said that, each planet received a special Prime and Megs really. Well, speed planet anyway.

In all honesty, the Beast versions don't look more powerful than the originals to me.

skywarp-2 wrote:you know to tell you the truth i never bought him so I really can't complain, I've seen him and passed right by him..I mean he's a nerf gun!!!

Thtas not G-1 to me, and with all the political correctness I have seen lately it makes me sick.. whjat are we protecting our kids from?? If they never have a toy gun, then they are 10 times more likely to never play with one.. ok i get that..it also makes parents who own a real gun feel like its safer to leave that real gun laying around more because there isn't a toy version it could be mistaken for in the kids room..its not safety its stupid..

And what about those kids that own real guns and their parents take them hunting? I mean those kids end up actually using guns, and those kids who play with nerf guns and such have no clue what they are in for as an adult.. its unrealistic to believe we can protect our children from violence.. I mean come on, chances are most of those kids playin g with toys are gonna end up in Iraq or a 3rd world country in the future...all because of what crappy polaticians are doing now..

I mean its like we are trying to say, we are stopping violence because we want your transformable guns to be out rageous and look like a nerf gun, and we want police to not mistake your kids guns as real guns..

train you cops better!!!


I understand the orange tip, but the nerfology is way too far 0ut there..I mean its G-1 and a transformable toy.. it should have been a pistol, granted maybe a little toyish in looks, but still a pistol... they are gonna grow up and have a gun in their face one way or another, its a fact of life..

might as well have them prepared and explain the issue of gun saftely instead of letting them wonder what its like to really hold a gun, go down the street to a neighbors house and play with their dads real gun and accidently shoot someone!!! i mean we are creating a disasterous prblem by hiding our kids from guns in toys.. it makes it easier for us to ignore the issue and not have to talk to our kids...


So we get them a video game that has guns and real sounding ones, with real blood from good CGI victims.. .but we aren't allowed to sell a realistic "robot Gun" that shoots lasers at other "robots" I ema GI Joe from the 80s had guns, but they also shot lasers.. and didn't make me want a real gun, just a laser rifle or laser gun.. Those Anime Japanese shows, though clever still have gratuitous gun violence all the time, and show real gun casing shells.. I mean give me a break HASBRO!!!

Political Correctness has gotten way out of control in this country.. we are so scared to do anything to hurt some minority group, and I'm not just talking race..religion, vegetarians, ledsbians, gays, mormons, fly fisherman, alchoholics, Gobot lovers, he-man haters of america.. what ever!!! I mean its the lawyers and lawmakers who have made it so bad..you hurt my feelings and gave me mental stress becasue you said something I took offense too.. give me 1 Million dollars.. oh and lets make that a new law, you can't say that again.... what a freaking joke!! I'm moving to Canada one of these days..Captain Canuck I'm buying your Marvel Legends figure!!

Every time I see that NERF gun MEGATRON, I get pissed off... sorry but I needed to rant this morning.. and your thread was the perfect choice considering the topic..

just had to HAD bring this back up again, AWESOME post
about an awesome figure, I started this thread originally to see if I really wanted to get Classics Meg, got him and love him to this day.
no other TF toy had this much controversy other than MP Meg (Canadian customs issue). Damn always a Meg!!! TF is a freakin toy for crying out loud yet it brings in politics, awesome sheer awesomeness