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Re: Hasbro Invites Transformers Fans To Create Massive Transformers Character To Enlist In Combiner Wars

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:39 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:We won't get that. This poll is for brand new characters only.
I was thinking about going back and counting the number of times you have said this, but doubt I have enough fingers and toes :P

Does no one read the threads before posting?
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LE0KING wrote:Would it be too much to ask for a Fembot combiner? That'd be pretty cool.



No, it wouldn't be cool. We have plenty of "fembots" at this point.


Yes all 3 of them in Generations :D

Yeah out of 45 domestic figures figures, not counting the microns, 3 were female. That's around abouts a ratio of 6% of transformers generations toys, not counting microns target masters, et cettera were "female" whilst 94% were "male". Counting the all the extra mini-figures and the minicon assault team as three figures, female transformers made up about 4 percent of domestic release.
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Re: Hasbro Invites Transformers Fans To Create Massive Transformers Character To Enlist In Combiner Wars

Postby shockblast2 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:24 pm

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LE0KING wrote:Would it be too much to ask for a Fembot combiner? That'd be pretty cool.



No, it wouldn't be cool. We have plenty of "fembots" at this point.


Yes all 3 of them in Generations :D

Yeah out of 45 domestic figures figures, not counting the microns, 3 were female. That's around abouts a ratio of 6% of transformers generations toys, not counting microns target masters, et cettera were "female" whilst 94% were "male". Counting the all the extra mini-figures and the minicon assault team as three figures, female transformers made up about 4 percent of domestic release.




Yeah, and that is more than enough. The whole concept of gender for robots, alien robots at that, is utterly illogical and absurd.
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Re: Hasbro Invites Transformers Fans To Create Massive Transformers Character To Enlist In Combiner Wars

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:27 pm

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SW's SilverHammer wrote:
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LE0KING wrote:Would it be too much to ask for a Fembot combiner? That'd be pretty cool.



No, it wouldn't be cool. We have plenty of "fembots" at this point.


Yes all 3 of them in Generations :D

Yeah out of 45 domestic figures figures, not counting the microns, 3 were female. That's around abouts a ratio of 6% of transformers generations toys, not counting microns target masters, et cettera were "female" whilst 94% were "male". Counting the all the extra mini-figures and the minicon assault team as three figures, female transformers made up about 4 percent of domestic release.




Yeah, and that is more than enough. The whole concept of gender for robots, alien robots at that, is utterly illogical and absurd.
Then you should be equally upset about all the male ones we've gotten for the past 30 years as well. 'Tis only fair. ;)
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Re: Hasbro Invites Transformers Fans To Create Massive Transformers Character To Enlist In Combiner Wars

Postby shockblast2 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:28 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:We won't get that. This poll is for brand new characters only.
I was thinking about going back and counting the number of times you have said this, but doubt I have enough fingers and toes :P

Does no one read the threads before posting?
*sigh* Someone's gotta let people know what's up.



People are just throwing up random thoughts. It is just for fun. Of course we read the article, but this is not the official poll. Again, it is just for fun.

Why Arctorro has to act all condescending about it is beyond me.
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shockblast2 wrote:
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shockblast2 wrote:
LE0KING wrote:Would it be too much to ask for a Fembot combiner? That'd be pretty cool.



No, it wouldn't be cool. We have plenty of "fembots" at this point.


Yes all 3 of them in Generations :D

Yeah out of 45 domestic figures figures, not counting the microns, 3 were female. That's around abouts a ratio of 6% of transformers generations toys, not counting microns target masters, et cettera were "female" whilst 94% were "male". Counting the all the extra mini-figures and the minicon assault team as three figures, female transformers made up about 4 percent of domestic release.




Yeah, and that is more than enough. The whole concept of gender for robots, alien robots at that, is utterly illogical and absurd.
Then you should be equally upset about all the male ones we've gotten for the past 30 years as well. 'Tis only fair. ;)



Ummm...they are not "male". They don't have a p*nis. Nor do they have testicles or the power to reproduce sexually. They are genderless inorganic robots with personalities.
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Postby SW's SilverHammer » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:33 pm

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SW's SilverHammer wrote:
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LE0KING wrote:Would it be too much to ask for a Fembot combiner? That'd be pretty cool.



No, it wouldn't be cool. We have plenty of "fembots" at this point.


Yes all 3 of them in Generations :D

Yeah out of 45 domestic figures figures, not counting the microns, 3 were female. That's around abouts a ratio of 6% of transformers generations toys, not counting microns target masters, et cettera were "female" whilst 94% were "male". Counting the all the extra mini-figures and the minicon assault team as three figures, female transformers made up about 4 percent of domestic release.




Yeah, and that is more than enough. The whole concept of gender for robots, alien robots at that, is utterly illogical and absurd.


It's called suspension of disbelief. If you're cool enough to accept the idea of massive alien robots who turn into things and have spent millions of years beating the ever loving fudge out of each other, I don't think it should be to big of a leap to say "Oh and also Dude robots and Lady Robots".

If that's your line that'd be like reading the Hobbit and thinking something along the lines "Okay elves who use magics, Dwarves who live underground mostly, and little people, I can accept that, but Dragons? You can't do that."
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Re: Hasbro Invites Transformers Fans To Create Massive Transformers Character To Enlist In Combiner Wars

Postby shockblast2 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:37 pm

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shockblast2 wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:
LE0KING wrote:Would it be too much to ask for a Fembot combiner? That'd be pretty cool.



No, it wouldn't be cool. We have plenty of "fembots" at this point.


Yes all 3 of them in Generations :D

Yeah out of 45 domestic figures figures, not counting the microns, 3 were female. That's around abouts a ratio of 6% of transformers generations toys, not counting microns target masters, et cettera were "female" whilst 94% were "male". Counting the all the extra mini-figures and the minicon assault team as three figures, female transformers made up about 4 percent of domestic release.




Yeah, and that is more than enough. The whole concept of gender for robots, alien robots at that, is utterly illogical and absurd.


It's called suspension of disbelief. If you're cool enough to accept the idea of massive alien robots who turn into things and have spent millions of years beating the ever loving fudge out of each other, I don't think it should be to big of a leap to say "Oh and also Dude robots and Lady Robots".

If that's your line that'd be like reading the Hobbit and thinking something along the lines "Okay elves who use magics, Dwarves who live underground mostly, and little people, I can accept that, but Dragons? You can't do that."



I never read the Hobbit, so I have no clue what you are talking about. My point is the fact that the idea of robots, who do not and can not reproduce sexually or even asexually, cannot be a male or female. Gender is exclusive in biological organisms. Viruses are like machines and they have no gender. Nor do the robots we build. Let alone aliens who do not reproduce sexually.
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Re: Hasbro Invites Transformers Fans To Create Massive Transformers Character To Enlist In Combiner Wars

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:39 pm

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shockblast2 wrote:Gender is exclusive in biological organisms.
Sexes, you mean, not genders.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender
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Postby SW's SilverHammer » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:57 pm

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SW's SilverHammer wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:
LE0KING wrote:Would it be too much to ask for a Fembot combiner? That'd be pretty cool.



No, it wouldn't be cool. We have plenty of "fembots" at this point.


Yes all 3 of them in Generations :D

Yeah out of 45 domestic figures figures, not counting the microns, 3 were female. That's around abouts a ratio of 6% of transformers generations toys, not counting microns target masters, et cettera were "female" whilst 94% were "male". Counting the all the extra mini-figures and the minicon assault team as three figures, female transformers made up about 4 percent of domestic release.




Yeah, and that is more than enough. The whole concept of gender for robots, alien robots at that, is utterly illogical and absurd.


It's called suspension of disbelief. If you're cool enough to accept the idea of massive alien robots who turn into things and have spent millions of years beating the ever loving fudge out of each other, I don't think it should be to big of a leap to say "Oh and also Dude robots and Lady Robots".

If that's your line that'd be like reading the Hobbit and thinking something along the lines "Okay elves who use magics, Dwarves who live underground mostly, and little people, I can accept that, but Dragons? You can't do that."



I never read the Hobbit, so I have no clue what you are talking about. My point is the fact that the idea of robots, who do not and can not reproduce sexually or even asexually, cannot be a male or female. Gender is exclusive in biological organisms. Viruses are like machines and they have no gender. Nor do the robots we build. Let alone aliens who do not reproduce sexually.


And Viruses don't transform into cars now do they. Also I think the entire point of my analogy was lost on you, let me break it down again. The idea of giant alien robots who've been waging a million year war over the known galaxy, is perfectly logical for Science Fiction. However the concept they may have some sort of gender identification, no matter if they have the ability to have sex, is completely ludicrous. Let me lay out some examples of other such conundrums of logic v Suspension of disbelief:

I liked Star wars Up until the Death Star made a sound when it blew up, completely unrealistic.

I can accept the idea of aliens and interstellar travel, and time travle in Star Trek, but alternate dimensions are just absurd.

I'm a biblical literalist, but the idea of a war in heaven? that's just crazy talk.
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Re: Hasbro Invites Transformers Fans To Create Massive Transformers Character To Enlist In Combiner Wars

Postby shockblast2 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:58 pm

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shockblast2 wrote:Gender is exclusive in biological organisms.
Sexes, you mean, not genders.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex

BTW, in recent fiction, the Transformers are biological organisms. Just ones whose base element is silicon rather than carbon.




Yes, but, we are discussing the logical application, and that ideology is absurd on so many levels that it is not even really worth discussing. If you want to try to justify it, then great. That is your opinion. Mine is that it is illogical and absurd. Because sex is EXCLUSIVE in organisms that give birth either sexually or asexually, and the transformers, no matter how anyone can try to justify it, cannot be male or female. That is completelysilly. Even the "fembots" have curves to indicate breasts, which are exclusive in mammals. Which makes the concept even more silly.
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Re: Hasbro Invites Transformers Fans To Create Massive Transformers Character To Enlist In Combiner Wars

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:01 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:Gender is exclusive in biological organisms.
Sexes, you mean, not genders.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex

BTW, in recent fiction, the Transformers are biological organisms. Just ones whose base element is silicon rather than carbon.




Yes, but, we are discussing the logical application, and that ideology is absurd on so many levels that it is not even really worth discussing. If you want to try to justify it, then great. That is your opinion. Mine is that it is illogical and absurd. Because sex is EXCLUSIVE in organisms that give birth either sexually or asexually, and the transformers, no matter how anyone can try to justify it, cannot be male or female. That is completelysilly. Even the "fembots" have curves to indicate breasts, which are exclusive in mammals. Which makes the concept even more silly.
I'm just saying what the fiction says. It's official and, whether we like it or not, we have no say on the matter. They don't have sexes, but they officially have gender and silicon-based biology.
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Re: Hasbro Invites Transformers Fans To Create Massive Transformers Character To Enlist In Combiner Wars

Postby shockblast2 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:09 pm

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shockblast2 wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
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LE0KING wrote:Would it be too much to ask for a Fembot combiner? That'd be pretty cool.



No, it wouldn't be cool. We have plenty of "fembots" at this point.


Yes all 3 of them in Generations :D

Yeah out of 45 domestic figures figures, not counting the microns, 3 were female. That's around abouts a ratio of 6% of transformers generations toys, not counting microns target masters, et cettera were "female" whilst 94% were "male". Counting the all the extra mini-figures and the minicon assault team as three figures, female transformers made up about 4 percent of domestic release.




Yeah, and that is more than enough. The whole concept of gender for robots, alien robots at that, is utterly illogical and absurd.


It's called suspension of disbelief. If you're cool enough to accept the idea of massive alien robots who turn into things and have spent millions of years beating the ever loving fudge out of each other, I don't think it should be to big of a leap to say "Oh and also Dude robots and Lady Robots".

If that's your line that'd be like reading the Hobbit and thinking something along the lines "Okay elves who use magics, Dwarves who live underground mostly, and little people, I can accept that, but Dragons? You can't do that."



I never read the Hobbit, so I have no clue what you are talking about. My point is the fact that the idea of robots, who do not and can not reproduce sexually or even asexually, cannot be a male or female. Gender is exclusive in biological organisms. Viruses are like machines and they have no gender. Nor do the robots we build. Let alone aliens who do not reproduce sexually.


And Viruses don't transform into cars now do they. Also I think the entire point of my analogy was lost on you, let me break it down again. The idea of giant alien robots who've been waging a million year war over the known galaxy, is perfectly logical for Science Fiction. However the concept they may have some sort of gender identification, no matter if they have the ability to have sex, is completely ludicrous. Let me lay out some examples of other such conundrums of logic v Suspension of disbelief:

I liked Star wars Up until the Death Star made a sound when it blew up, completely unrealistic.

I can accept the idea of aliens and interstellar travel, and time travle in Star Trek, but alternate dimensions are just absurd.


The analogy was not lost on me. I didn't care. Because the concept is so silly to me that nothing you could say to try to justify it is going to change my opinion. The fact is, again, that male and female is a sexual identity that a robot, whether it be biological or not, cannot share in common with humans for one reason noone can argue. They do not reproduce sexually. Period. Of course this i just fiction. But in fiction you alawys have logical groundwork to set up the story. And a robot, alien ones at that, being a male or female, is just PC BS that they made up to try to attract more fans. Which is insulting, because girls like Transformers because of the same reasons we do. Not because there is "girl" one. And the fact that G1 Arcee is pink is even more insulting. That is one reason i like IDW Arcee and its red deco over other lines and fiction.
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Re: Hasbro Invites Transformers Fans To Create Massive Transformers Character To Enlist In Combiner Wars

Postby shockblast2 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:14 pm

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shockblast2 wrote:Gender is exclusive in biological organisms.
Sexes, you mean, not genders.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex

BTW, in recent fiction, the Transformers are biological organisms. Just ones whose base element is silicon rather than carbon.




Yes, but, we are discussing the logical application, and that ideology is absurd on so many levels that it is not even really worth discussing. If you want to try to justify it, then great. That is your opinion. Mine is that it is illogical and absurd. Because sex is EXCLUSIVE in organisms that give birth either sexually or asexually, and the transformers, no matter how anyone can try to justify it, cannot be male or female. That is completelysilly. Even the "fembots" have curves to indicate breasts, which are exclusive in mammals. Which makes the concept even more silly.
I'm just saying what the fiction says. It's official and, whether we like it or not, we have no say on the matter. They don't have sexes, but they officially have gender and silicon-based biology.


Sure you have a choice. ignore the concept. That is what I do. when I look at Arcee, Windblade, and Chromia on my shelf, even now, I do not see females. Conversely, looking at Springer, Grimlock, etc doesn't make me think male.
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Postby shockblast2 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:18 pm

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Really, I hope they just make up brand new characters with new names. And no fembots. They are small bodied anyhow. LOL, I mean, what is it going to be in combined mode, its gimp arm? A peg leg? A pirate combiner!
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shockblast2 wrote:
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shockblast2 wrote:
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LE0KING wrote:Would it be too much to ask for a Fembot combiner? That'd be pretty cool.



No, it wouldn't be cool. We have plenty of "fembots" at this point.


Yes all 3 of them in Generations :D

Yeah out of 45 domestic figures figures, not counting the microns, 3 were female. That's around abouts a ratio of 6% of transformers generations toys, not counting microns target masters, et cettera were "female" whilst 94% were "male". Counting the all the extra mini-figures and the minicon assault team as three figures, female transformers made up about 4 percent of domestic release.




Yeah, and that is more than enough. The whole concept of gender for robots, alien robots at that, is utterly illogical and absurd.


It's called suspension of disbelief. If you're cool enough to accept the idea of massive alien robots who turn into things and have spent millions of years beating the ever loving fudge out of each other, I don't think it should be to big of a leap to say "Oh and also Dude robots and Lady Robots".

If that's your line that'd be like reading the Hobbit and thinking something along the lines "Okay elves who use magics, Dwarves who live underground mostly, and little people, I can accept that, but Dragons? You can't do that."



I never read the Hobbit, so I have no clue what you are talking about. My point is the fact that the idea of robots, who do not and can not reproduce sexually or even asexually, cannot be a male or female. Gender is exclusive in biological organisms. Viruses are like machines and they have no gender. Nor do the robots we build. Let alone aliens who do not reproduce sexually.


And Viruses don't transform into cars now do they. Also I think the entire point of my analogy was lost on you, let me break it down again. The idea of giant alien robots who've been waging a million year war over the known galaxy, is perfectly logical for Science Fiction. However the concept they may have some sort of gender identification, no matter if they have the ability to have sex, is completely ludicrous. Let me lay out some examples of other such conundrums of logic v Suspension of disbelief:

I liked Star wars Up until the Death Star made a sound when it blew up, completely unrealistic.

I can accept the idea of aliens and interstellar travel, and time travle in Star Trek, but alternate dimensions are just absurd.


The analogy was not lost on me. I didn't care. Because the concept is so silly to me that nothing you could say to try to justify it is going to change my opinion. The fact is, again, that male and female is a sexual identity that a robot, whether it be biological or not, cannot share in common with humans for one reason noone can argue. They do not reproduce sexually. Period. Of course this i just fiction. But in fiction you alawys have logical groundwork to set up the story. And a robot, alien ones at that, being a male or female, is just PC BS that they made up to try to attract more fans. Which is insulting, because girls like Transformers because of the same reasons we do. Not because there is "girl" one. And the fact that G1 Arcee is pink is even more insulting. That is one reason i like IDW Arcee and its red deco over other lines and fiction.


Fine then, you know what I find insulting about transformers, Why do they have voice actors? It's a simple question. Why can't they all sound like Microsoft Mike, why do they have to given male or female voice actors.
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Re: Hasbro Invites Transformers Fans To Create Massive Transformers Character To Enlist In Combiner Wars

Postby shockblast2 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:26 pm

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LE0KING wrote:Would it be too much to ask for a Fembot combiner? That'd be pretty cool.



No, it wouldn't be cool. We have plenty of "fembots" at this point.


Yes all 3 of them in Generations :D

Yeah out of 45 domestic figures figures, not counting the microns, 3 were female. That's around abouts a ratio of 6% of transformers generations toys, not counting microns target masters, et cettera were "female" whilst 94% were "male". Counting the all the extra mini-figures and the minicon assault team as three figures, female transformers made up about 4 percent of domestic release.




Yeah, and that is more than enough. The whole concept of gender for robots, alien robots at that, is utterly illogical and absurd.


It's called suspension of disbelief. If you're cool enough to accept the idea of massive alien robots who turn into things and have spent millions of years beating the ever loving fudge out of each other, I don't think it should be to big of a leap to say "Oh and also Dude robots and Lady Robots".

If that's your line that'd be like reading the Hobbit and thinking something along the lines "Okay elves who use magics, Dwarves who live underground mostly, and little people, I can accept that, but Dragons? You can't do that."



I never read the Hobbit, so I have no clue what you are talking about. My point is the fact that the idea of robots, who do not and can not reproduce sexually or even asexually, cannot be a male or female. Gender is exclusive in biological organisms. Viruses are like machines and they have no gender. Nor do the robots we build. Let alone aliens who do not reproduce sexually.


And Viruses don't transform into cars now do they. Also I think the entire point of my analogy was lost on you, let me break it down again. The idea of giant alien robots who've been waging a million year war over the known galaxy, is perfectly logical for Science Fiction. However the concept they may have some sort of gender identification, no matter if they have the ability to have sex, is completely ludicrous. Let me lay out some examples of other such conundrums of logic v Suspension of disbelief:

I liked Star wars Up until the Death Star made a sound when it blew up, completely unrealistic.

I can accept the idea of aliens and interstellar travel, and time travle in Star Trek, but alternate dimensions are just absurd.


The analogy was not lost on me. I didn't care. Because the concept is so silly to me that nothing you could say to try to justify it is going to change my opinion. The fact is, again, that male and female is a sexual identity that a robot, whether it be biological or not, cannot share in common with humans for one reason noone can argue. They do not reproduce sexually. Period. Of course this i just fiction. But in fiction you alawys have logical groundwork to set up the story. And a robot, alien ones at that, being a male or female, is just PC BS that they made up to try to attract more fans. Which is insulting, because girls like Transformers because of the same reasons we do. Not because there is "girl" one. And the fact that G1 Arcee is pink is even more insulting. That is one reason i like IDW Arcee and its red deco over other lines and fiction.


Fine then, you know what I find insulting about transformers, Why do they have voice actors? It's a simple question. Why can't they all sound like Microsoft Mike, why do they have to given male or female voice actors.



LOL....really?
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Re: Hasbro Invites Transformers Fans To Create Massive Transformers Character To Enlist In Combiner Wars

Postby shajaki » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:27 pm

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girl. robot. toys.
the third one in italics is my key point. calm down folks.
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Re: Hasbro Invites Transformers Fans To Create Massive Transformers Character To Enlist In Combiner Wars

Postby shockblast2 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:31 pm

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shajaki wrote:girl. robot. toys.
the third one in italics is my key point. calm down folks.


I don't think anyone is getting excited. Now go moderate a little girls tea party, and let us discuss the silliness of gender identification in robots. Why are there so many condescending people here tonight? Did your mother in laws move in or what? ;)
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Re: Hasbro Invites Transformers Fans To Create Massive Transformers Character To Enlist In Combiner Wars

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:34 pm

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LE0KING wrote:Would it be too much to ask for a Fembot combiner? That'd be pretty cool.



No, it wouldn't be cool. We have plenty of "fembots" at this point.


Yes all 3 of them in Generations :D

Yeah out of 45 domestic figures figures, not counting the microns, 3 were female. That's around abouts a ratio of 6% of transformers generations toys, not counting microns target masters, et cettera were "female" whilst 94% were "male". Counting the all the extra mini-figures and the minicon assault team as three figures, female transformers made up about 4 percent of domestic release.




Yeah, and that is more than enough. The whole concept of gender for robots, alien robots at that, is utterly illogical and absurd.


It's called suspension of disbelief. If you're cool enough to accept the idea of massive alien robots who turn into things and have spent millions of years beating the ever loving fudge out of each other, I don't think it should be to big of a leap to say "Oh and also Dude robots and Lady Robots".

If that's your line that'd be like reading the Hobbit and thinking something along the lines "Okay elves who use magics, Dwarves who live underground mostly, and little people, I can accept that, but Dragons? You can't do that."



I never read the Hobbit, so I have no clue what you are talking about. My point is the fact that the idea of robots, who do not and can not reproduce sexually or even asexually, cannot be a male or female. Gender is exclusive in biological organisms. Viruses are like machines and they have no gender. Nor do the robots we build. Let alone aliens who do not reproduce sexually.


And Viruses don't transform into cars now do they. Also I think the entire point of my analogy was lost on you, let me break it down again. The idea of giant alien robots who've been waging a million year war over the known galaxy, is perfectly logical for Science Fiction. However the concept they may have some sort of gender identification, no matter if they have the ability to have sex, is completely ludicrous. Let me lay out some examples of other such conundrums of logic v Suspension of disbelief:

I liked Star wars Up until the Death Star made a sound when it blew up, completely unrealistic.

I can accept the idea of aliens and interstellar travel, and time travle in Star Trek, but alternate dimensions are just absurd.


The analogy was not lost on me. I didn't care. Because the concept is so silly to me that nothing you could say to try to justify it is going to change my opinion. The fact is, again, that male and female is a sexual identity that a robot, whether it be biological or not, cannot share in common with humans for one reason noone can argue. They do not reproduce sexually. Period. Of course this i just fiction. But in fiction you alawys have logical groundwork to set up the story. And a robot, alien ones at that, being a male or female, is just PC BS that they made up to try to attract more fans. Which is insulting, because girls like Transformers because of the same reasons we do. Not because there is "girl" one. And the fact that G1 Arcee is pink is even more insulting. That is one reason i like IDW Arcee and its red deco over other lines and fiction.


Fine then, you know what I find insulting about transformers, Why do they have voice actors? It's a simple question. Why can't they all sound like Microsoft Mike, why do they have to given male or female voice actors.



LOL....really?



No think about it, it's a simple question. If there are no genders in transformers, why would transformers sound the way they do in cartoons, movies, and live readings of comics. If there are no males in a classical sense of XY, there would be no facet to produce testosterone like there is in humans, Testosterone is what give men deep voices. If there are no females, in an XX sense, then there would be nothing to create Estrogen, which gives women their higher voice, also the low low low levels of testosterone. So, why would optimus prime have a deep southwester voice, and Arcee a higher pitched voice, if there are no genders, thus; Why don't they all sound monotone like computerized speech, and they should should like that anyway because they are robots..
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Re: Hasbro Invites Transformers Fans To Create Massive Transformers Character To Enlist In Combiner Wars

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:34 pm

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shockblast2 wrote:And no fembots. They are small bodied anyhow.
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Re: Hasbro Invites Transformers Fans To Create Massive Transformers Character To Enlist In Combiner Wars

Postby shockblast2 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:37 pm

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Superion - Piracon, why did you choose a combined identity of a 17th century earth pirate?


Piracon - Me leg is a damn fembot! It was either that, or that of Chris Elliots character in Scary Movie 2! Argg!!!


Superion - Get away from me. Your embarrassing.
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Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:39 pm

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shockblast2 wrote:Superion - Piracon, why did you choose a combined identity of a 17th century earth pirate?


Piracon - Me leg is a damn fembot! It was either that, or that of Chris Elliots character in Scary Movie 2! Argg!!!


Superion - Get away from me. Your embarrassing.
Aww, come on. A pirate combiner would be awesome. :lol:
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Re: Hasbro Invites Transformers Fans To Create Massive Transformers Character To Enlist In Combiner Wars

Postby shockblast2 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:44 pm

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Sabre, the pictures are really unnecessary. Your post was silly long man. Just say the names. I know the characters, my friend.

Let me ask you this simple question. What makes a fembot different than a "male" robot?
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Re: Hasbro Invites Transformers Fans To Create Massive Transformers Character To Enlist In Combiner Wars

Postby shockblast2 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:46 pm

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shockblast2 wrote:Superion - Piracon, why did you choose a combined identity of a 17th century earth pirate?


Piracon - Me leg is a damn fembot! It was either that, or that of Chris Elliots character in Scary Movie 2! Argg!!!


Superion - Get away from me. Your embarrassing.
Aww, come on. A pirate combiner would be awesome. :lol:



LOL...I know, right? I actually thought of the idea, laughed, and then thought, that would be kinda cool!
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