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Sunstorm is also a disappointing character. I want one, but I don't know if I'm ready to shell out $150+ on a repaint of Starscream who was a "filler" character for two episodes in G1. I have the Universe version, but I don't really like the Armada Thrust mold, and he looks like he escaped from the Creamscicle farm.

Roadbuster. Such an awesome character--but he's only gotten one toy. Now, it is an awesome figure, but it's a pity that Hasbro never gave us an Alternator version or even a Universe repaint, such as they did for Whirl. Whirl gets a kickin' Universe repaint and Attactix figures--where's the love for the other Wreckers?

Death's Head. No toy. Hell, I'd be content if they were to make a Marvel Legend's figure of Death's Head 3.0 (such as he appeared on the last page of the series) at this point.

Armada Sideways. I thought he was pretty neat in the show, then I get the toy, and it can barely move. WTH?

cybertron nemesis breaker

G1 Menasor:
Too DAMNED SMALL!

G1 Seekers:
Eh, legs, head, arms.

G1 Astrotrain
Arms

G1 Superion:
Legs and height

G1 Metroplex:
Height.

BW Airazor
Not feminine.

Armada Blurr
It's batman

Armada Superpants Prime
The pants

Energon Every Autobot
except Rody, sucked, Rody the legs/amrs.

Cybertron Megatron
Paintjob.

Greed wrote:I just found it awesome that Grimmy was able to transcend time and avoided having his spark stolen from BM Megs. I mean he must be incredibly lucky.

Ya know, I never thought of it in a BM way! Should IDW have a Beast Machines mini-series, they could easily upgrade Grimlock into T-Wrecks, as was implied by the Tech Specs. Maybe Furman was setting the pieces into play.

As for others, I don't particularly like what I've seen from Wheeljack that much.

All the show deluxe Autobots. If it wasn't for the powerlinking, they could have been so much better. It's the littel flaws that really hurt them, and Prowl has no neck.

I'm not too big on BW Rampage, way too back heavy. Then again, I don't have one nearly complete, mine has no guns and only two crap legs.

G1 Silverbolt(based off the KO I have). Even for a G1, one of the lesser articluated ones.

Finally, Guiltor, cause he never got any figures whatsoever. Then again, he kind of didn't really warrent a figure back then cause he was a one-shot appearance. But still, a new figure of him would be so sweet.

Cybertron Brakedown, Cybertron Starscream, Cybertron Thundercracker, Armada/Cybertron Blurr, Armada Cyclonis, Energon Superion Maximus, Energon Prime, Armada Megatron, and G1 Hot Rod(20 years and still nothing to capture his glory).

Bluebullet wrote:G1 Hot Rod(20 years and still nothing to capture his glory).

Unfamiliar with the Classics, are you?

I didn't think G1 Hot Rod was that bad, to be honest.

83457W422102 wrote:

Bluebullet wrote:G1 Hot Rod(20 years and still nothing to capture his glory).

Unfamiliar with the Classics, are you?

You forget to mention that G1 Hot Rod was one of the nicest G1 toys made, especilly post movie, and has one of the more enjoyable and well designed transformations.

Bluebullet wrote:Cybertron Starscream, Armada Megatron

I wouldnt call these two crap either, OK, they should have given Starscream a little extra something, becuase what works at Voyager size looks a bit too simple at supreme size, but he was a good toy, as was a megs, even if he did have to walk like a crab.

Bluebullet wrote:Energon Prime

No no no... Good charecter, Crap toy, not Crap charecter Crap toy...

Energon Prime has a good character?

There are good characters in the Energon cartoon?

I want a series without ruddy Optimus Prime.

Windsweeper wrote:I want a series without ruddy Optimus Prime.

I'm awaiting the backlash to this comment!

Leonardo wrote:I didn't think G1 Hot Rod was that bad, to be honest.

I'm with you. I think these comments should be placed within the context of their time periods. Sure, many if not all of the G1 stuff is crap compared to what comes out today. Yet, for their time, most were ingenious. A lot had very cool poses possible, if not the articulation of today's toys. I remember being able to point Primes gun straight out from his side and turn his head do he was minimizing his profile. Very nice. Sure, Hotrod couldn't move his shoulders, but I found his posability and looks far superior to Roddimus Prime's.

G1 Cyclonus pales in comparison to his toon incarnation. I'd love a Classics rendition done for him. Yet, his alt mode was pretty cool. He had some posability, but I think I played with him more as a space plane than as a robot.

G1 Galvatron didn't fit his toon counterpart, but I still felt he was far superior to the playability of Megatron. With that said, I do have to say that Megatron's arm cannon made him worth it, IMHO.

Today's toys are very nicely built, if sometimes lacking a bit in design or imagination. But back when I played with the G1 toys, back before they were expensive , I remember using my imagination a lot more. I'd act out stuff from the shows or come up with my own interpretation, and I didn't need extensive articulation to have fun with them. They were done in such a way that the transformations were simple enough to add the sound effects for transformation.

I do think that it's a bit unfair to compare today's toys to those twenty or more years older.

That said, the one G1 toy that might hold up in comparison: Jetfire.

Every G1 toy I've had first hand experience with except for Soundwave.

You guys are leaving out Astrotrain.....

He was awesome in the cartoon but why was he so small? He should of been at least the size of Megatron or the Seekers.

ChrisR291 wrote:You guys are leaving out Astrotrain.....

He was awesome in the cartoon but why was he so small? He should of been at least the size of Megatron or the Seekers.

Classics Astrotrain?

ChrisR291 wrote:You guys are leaving out Astrotrain.....

He was awesome in the cartoon but why was he so small? He should of been at least the size of Megatron or the Seekers.

Wasn't Broadside the same way? And Sky Lynx? And pretty much every other Transformer they used for transport in the show? Dude, seriously, size reference charts like didn't exist 20 something years ago.

Id go with any of the decepticon Pretenders.They look awsome in the comic and show, esp the MTMTE. but when you get the toy... buhhhh

g1 sixshot none of his modes worked well. Though he was great in the cartoon

BW Terrorsaur, loved the show character, but the toy just didn't do him any justice.

Size charts apparantly still dont exist.....see Classics Astrotrain.....

G1 Astrotrain. Saw the character and imagined a big super cool toy, just as he was on the show. I finally picked up the figure and just said "What the hell is this tiny little block!?"

Today I appreciate the toy and like it ALOT but I just couldn't help feeling a little cheated when I first got him.

To me basically any post movie G1 toys. There were some great characters, but the majority of the toys bit hard.

Leonardo wrote:

Wheelies Executioner wrote:Easily G1 Ironhide. One of my all time favourite characters reduced to a stick man with an odd sticker-face behind the windscreen

Oh, yes! And Ratchet, also.

Indeed ... I can live with the body ... but those faces?! ...

Greed wrote:

ChrisR291 wrote:You guys are leaving out Astrotrain.....

He was awesome in the cartoon but why was he so small? He should of been at least the size of Megatron or the Seekers.

Classics Astrotrain?

Yeah but Classics Astrotrain isn't even Grey!

I'm glad I got the Ehobby Astrotrain when it was cheap. The best Astrotrain was the one in that fold out that used to come with the G1 Transformers. That one looked bad ass.

Nemesis_Apoc wrote:

ChrisR291 wrote:You guys are leaving out Astrotrain.....

He was awesome in the cartoon but why was he so small? He should of been at least the size of Megatron or the Seekers.

Wasn't Broadside the same way? And Sky Lynx? And pretty much every other Transformer they used for transport in the show? Dude, seriously, size reference charts like didn't exist 20 something years ago.

He was small and the wrong Color. They could of just made it a decent size. The Ehobby version works color wise on the other hand!

I never had Sky lynx's but Skyfire (jetfire) was a good size if you ask me.