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Autobot032 wrote:Wow. It gets uglier with each new picture. Can they try? Seriously. This is just awful.

well according to your post , it couldnt get uglier since is the same robot , i havent take pictures of the revised parts since kronos will be release first , but i guess you can do a better job , since everyone is a critic

ARAFAT209 wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Wow. It gets uglier with each new picture. Can they try? Seriously. This is just awful.

well according to your post , it couldnt get uglier since is the same robot , i havent take pictures of the revised parts since kronos will be release first , but i guess you can do a better job , since everyone is a critic

I see that you're the OP of this thread. I can see why my post was taken personally, for that I apologize, I shouldn't have offended you. It certainly wasn't my intention. I'm just so caught off guard by this project. After rereading the first post, in which you ask for input, I have to stand by my opinion.

I don't like it. It's unattractive. It's too bubbly looking, when it should be more boxy and sleek. It's too tall, too much mass, the face doesn't work for me.

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be mean, but I am being honest. You have some good ideas here, but just not my cup of tea.

Again, I'm sorry for the offense. I didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings. And before you bring it up again, no I couldn't design a better one. I don't have that kind of skill set. Even if I did, Jetfire's not the one I'd work on bringing to the masses. He's low on my totem pole of desires.

Rated X wrote:12 inches easy pass. Bring it down to 8 and then were talking...

Creating a 3rd party Jetfire that is Eight. would make it too similar in size to Hasbro's 1.0 Jetfire.

After reviewing all Three 3rd party Jetfire toys. MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian is the worst. I don't like the overly skinny & weirdly sculpted legs on SkyGuardian. The Face on Skyguardian looks like badly sculpted grey putty & markers. I think the Titan Jetfire looks the best. the Kronos version is 2nd best. If the Titan price is similar to Kronos Then I'm buying it. I really wish Titan was getting released first & Kronos was getting released 2nd.

Is Kronos & Titan Two different sculpts? Is Titan a Resculpt that uses the Kronos mold? why 2 jetfire's from the same company?

Tsutsukakushi wrote:After reviewing all Three 3rd party Jetfire toys. MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian is the worst. I don't like the overly skinny & weirdly sculpted legs on SkyGuardian. The Face on Skyguardian looks like badly sculpted grey putty & markers. I think the Titan Jetfire looks the best. the Kronos version is 2nd best. If the Titan price is similar to Kronos Then I'm buying it. I really wish Titan was getting released first & Kronos was getting released 2nd.

Is Kronos & Titan Two different sculpts? Is Titan a Resculpt that uses the Kronos mold? why 2 jetfire's from the same company?

They are different molds.

Kronos represents the cartoon Skyfire design, while Titan represents the Jefire design.

looking at pics,It looks like both toys have Early Alternators toys Restrictions in the hips joints. It just doesn't look like Kronos or Titan can move their hips forward all the way or spread out their legs all the way.

I Remember in that Kronos thread. A few members asked that the overly large round shoulders be made a bit smaller. The guy making the Kronos toy,read the thread and made the shoulders smaller. Titan has the same problem with the overly large round shoulders. Is there any way titan's round shoulders can be reduced a bit in size.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:After reviewing all Three 3rd party Jetfire toys. MechaForm MF-01 SkyGuardian is the worst. I don't like the overly skinny & weirdly sculpted legs on SkyGuardian.

Respectfully disagree....Sky Guardian looks the most cartoon accurate to me. The skinnier waist and thighs reflects his original appearance better, IMO. I think all 3 offerings have strengths, but if I could only have one, Sky Guardian wins in my book. Being a huge fan of this particular character I will consider all 3...honestly Im thrilled that Skyfire is getting so much love right now.

OP- don't get discouraged by any negative opinions on Titan, he is really cool. While not my personal favorite, its a very close second. The color render of him looks great and ill admit once I have all three in hand I might find myself having a different opinion.

I am wondering though....can the "Jetfire/Macross" back pack be removed leaving it with a more cartoon version look?

GiveMeSkyfire wrote:I am wondering though....can the "Jetfire/Macross" back pack be removed leaving it with a more cartoon version look?

Yes it can be remove , right now I'm only concentrated on kronos since he is already on tooling process , titan still few months behind

ARAFAT209, are you concerned at all about the rumored Generations Jetfire? Just curious.

I really do like each of your designs for different reasons. If Titan isn't too expensive, I might just have to get him...

Agamemnon wrote: ARAFAT209, are you concerned at all about the rumored Generations Jetfire? Just curious.

It's still unclear it that is a new mold,repaint or retool. For all we know it could have been a asian or japanese movie jetfire exclusive.

At any rate I think ARAFAT209 needs to rush the production on Kronos & Titan before Hasbro Reveals & releases their Generations leader Jetfire. After Hasbro reveals their Jetfire for $44,It's going to be a up hill battle sales pitch to try to convince the fans to buy the 3rd party Jetfire's for over $160 each.

Agamemnon wrote: I really do like each of your designs for different reasons. If Titan isn't too expensive, I might just have to get him...

Titan would be the Version I'd buy if it's priced at the Kronos price.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Agamemnon wrote: ARAFAT209, are you concerned at all about the rumored Generations Jetfire? Just curious.

It's still unclear it that is a new mold,repaint or retool. For all we know it could have been a asian or japanese movie jetfire exclusive.

At any rate I think ARAFAT209 needs to rush the production on Kronos & Titan before Hasbro Reveals & releases their Generations leader Jetfire. After Hasbro reveals their Jetfire for $44,It's going to be a up hill battle sales pitch to try to convince the fans to buy the 3rd party Jetfire's for over $160 each.

rAgamemnon wrote: I really do like each of your designs for different reasons. If Titan isn't too expensive, I might just have to get him...

Titan would be the Version I'd buy if it's priced at the Kronos price.

To the first question , yes I was concern at the beginning since the molds have been paid already , but my contacomment T told me that the generations Jetfire leader class will not be an mp level Jetfire cartoon version .

To the second comment I really can't speed up the process on releasing kronos (first one to be out) ,since the tooling process can't be speed it up also titan should cost less than kronos since if you buy both versions since I promised that I will keep the price low if you buy both versions.

I would be interested in a package deal for both....how will you do that since release dates are different?