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TheTheoretician wrote:I may be in the minority here, but am I the only one who thinks Classics Skyfire is superior to Generations Jetfire? Sure, scale-wise a Leader is more befitting for the character, but otherwise Classics/Henkei just seems superior to me:
-Sturdier build without excessive hollowness
-Wrist swivel
-No faux cockpit/chest for forcing a compromise between a Valkyrie and the cartoon robot mode
-Awesome backpack whose cannons can fold over the robots shoulders for total badassery
-More weapons overall, including spring-fired missiles and eight cannons on his HELMET only, the guy is a freakin´ walking arsenal, but still feels slick and nimble
-More straightforward, but at the same time more clever transformation (love the nose cone split into the robot´s pectorals)
-Jet mode closer to the animation model (if that is preferred, as for my opinion, we have Macross if one wants a real Valkyrie)
-Better head sculpt
-Better battle mask (the perfect reference to the original toy instead of blue shades...)
-Overall, a robot mode that looks more like a robot and less like a guy in a racing helmet packing excessive wing junk protruding well over his shoulders, adorned by metallic red... somethings sticking into the air...
-I can´t stress enough how this is one of HasTak´s best molds EVER...
Each to their own I guess, but seriously, look at this picture:
To the left, a classic that has aged gracefully, but still aged. To the right, the perfect amalgam of cartoon Jetfire and the original G1 toy. In the middle: The biggest question mark of the latter years of releases, in my humble opinion...
Rodimus Prime wrote:I finally got my Generations Jetfire, and I like it. I prefer the robot mode to the jet mode, and I actually dig the chrome. I moved the big guns from the leg and attached them to the backpack boosters, and now he looks cool next to my other Jetfires. For $25, he was worth it.
That depends on your point of view. I didn't think he was worth a penny over $25, so I think I got a fair deal. Had he been $20 or less, it would have been a bargain.Optimum Supreme wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I finally got my Generations Jetfire, and I like it. I prefer the robot mode to the jet mode, and I actually dig the chrome. I moved the big guns from the leg and attached them to the backpack boosters, and now he looks cool next to my other Jetfires. For $25, he was worth it.
Wow, you got a bargain!
Yeah, me too. For some reason that red just looks dull.Yeah, the chrome really grew on me after getting the figure, I'm glad I didn't go Takara.
TheTheoretician wrote:I may be in the minority here, but am I the only one who thinks Classics Skyfire is superior to Generations Jetfire? Sure, scale-wise a Leader is more befitting for the character, but otherwise Classics/Henkei just seems superior to me:
-Sturdier build without excessive hollowness
-Wrist swivel
-No faux cockpit/chest for forcing a compromise between a Valkyrie and the cartoon robot mode
-Awesome backpack whose cannons can fold over the robots shoulders for total badassery
-More weapons overall, including spring-fired missiles and eight cannons on his HELMET only, the guy is a freakin´ walking arsenal, but still feels slick and nimble
-More straightforward, but at the same time more clever transformation (love the nose cone split into the robot´s pectorals)
-Jet mode closer to the animation model (if that is preferred, as for my opinion, we have Macross if one wants a real Valkyrie)
-Better head sculpt
-Better battle mask (the perfect reference to the original toy instead of blue shades...)
-Overall, a robot mode that looks more like a robot and less like a guy in a racing helmet packing excessive wing junk protruding well over his shoulders, adorned by metallic red... somethings sticking into the air...
-I can´t stress enough how this is one of HasTak´s best molds EVER...
Each to their own I guess, but seriously, look at this picture:
fenrir72 wrote:ScottyP wrote:GuyIncognito wrote:What's all this about quality? G1 figures had metal parts, but they were bricks with four points of articulation, and they broke pretty easily. Very few of mine survived fully intact. They were subject to rust, yellowing, and GPS.
I'm thinking of, roughly, 2002-2010. Occasional gimmick intrusion aside, and occasional GPS use aside (rawr), these were big toys with some pretty hefty plastic, with increasing complexity as time went by.
Galaxyforce comes to mind..........boy were they big and "whole"
Optimum Supreme wrote:TheTheoretician wrote:I may be in the minority here, but am I the only one who thinks Classics Skyfire is superior to Generations Jetfire? Sure, scale-wise a Leader is more befitting for the character, but otherwise Classics/Henkei just seems superior to me:
-Sturdier build without excessive hollowness
-Wrist swivel
-No faux cockpit/chest for forcing a compromise between a Valkyrie and the cartoon robot mode
-Awesome backpack whose cannons can fold over the robots shoulders for total badassery
-More weapons overall, including spring-fired missiles and eight cannons on his HELMET only, the guy is a freakin´ walking arsenal, but still feels slick and nimble
-More straightforward, but at the same time more clever transformation (love the nose cone split into the robot´s pectorals)
-Jet mode closer to the animation model (if that is preferred, as for my opinion, we have Macross if one wants a real Valkyrie)
-Better head sculpt
-Better battle mask (the perfect reference to the original toy instead of blue shades...)
-Overall, a robot mode that looks more like a robot and less like a guy in a racing helmet packing excessive wing junk protruding well over his shoulders, adorned by metallic red... somethings sticking into the air...
-I can´t stress enough how this is one of HasTak´s best molds EVER...
Each to their own I guess, but seriously, look at this picture:
To the left, a classic that has aged gracefully, but still aged. To the right, the perfect amalgam of cartoon Jetfire and the original G1 toy. In the middle: The biggest question mark of the latter years of releases, in my humble opinion...
You make a lot of good points, but to me Generations Jetfire just looks a lot cooler than Classics Jetfire. Neither one is perfect, but if I had to pick between those two, I'm goin with the big guy.
Actually I'd pick the original Jetfire (over pretty much any Transformer, not just the other Jetfires), but I'm glad I don't have to choose, and have all three of these.
william-james88 wrote:I am resurecting this thread because I just found this listing on amiami:
It's about 200$ US and is currently available for preorder. The alt mode struck me because the legs were just as visible (if not more so) than on Generations Jetfire. And I find Jetfire looks even better than this. While some people thought he felt like a KO, I see it as us getting an official product in a style of a 200$ toy that looks as good if not better.
william-james88 wrote:I am resurecting this thread because I just found this listing on amiami:
It's about 200$ US and is currently available for preorder. The alt mode struck me because the legs were just as visible (if not more so) than on Generations Jetfire. And I find Jetfire looks even better than this. While some people thought he felt like a KO, I see it as us getting an official product in a style of a 200$ toy that looks as good if not better.
thedistinctroom wrote:To express a little dissent...
CW Ultra Magnus feels like a KO and it disgusts me. Brittle. No grip in his hands. Hollow, honeycomb design. Sparse paint apps. Weightless. Assembled with pins instead of screws. In fact, all of the new Leader Class toys are generally kind of flimsy.
Drift082111 wrote:Is Leader Magnus really that bad? I def would like to know. I'm on the fence about picking him up.
fenrir72 wrote:Drift082111 wrote:Is Leader Magnus really that bad? I def would like to know. I'm on the fence about picking him up.
Oh you're gonna pick him regardless "D". Same as us all (TT ver. for me)
Rodimus Prime wrote:I finally got my Generations Jetfire, and I like it. I prefer the robot mode to the jet mode, and I actually dig the chrome. I moved the big guns from the leg and attached them to the backpack boosters, and now he looks cool next to my other Jetfires. For $25, he was worth it.
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
Ironhidensh wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I finally got my Generations Jetfire, and I like it. I prefer the robot mode to the jet mode, and I actually dig the chrome. I moved the big guns from the leg and attached them to the backpack boosters, and now he looks cool next to my other Jetfires. For $25, he was worth it.
This is how I feel as well. I absolutely love Generations Jetfire, but a big part of that is because I only paid $20 for him. If I had paid full price, I'd be incredibly disappointed.
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