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Leonardo wrote:I agree with you. For me, this is the best rendering of the G1 universe and, on a less objective note, it is (so far, provided they don't mess it up with multiverse interlacing) my personal G1 canon.

I concur with the canon quote!

I was just reading issue #3 of this and I noticed that on page 11 Koska looks like he has blue eyes with purple irises/pupils. Then, on page 14 or so, the leader of the opposition has a close-up panel where his eyes look to be blue with purple irises. I've only noticed it in these two panels as a lot of the time the eyes are so small they just look black. Is this a method of identifying facsimiles?

Leonardo wrote:I was just reading issue #3 of this and I noticed that on page 11 Koska looks like he has blue eyes with purple irises/pupils. Then, on page 14 or so, the leader of the opposition has a close-up panel where his eyes look to be blue with purple irises. I've only noticed it in these two panels as a lot of the time the eyes are so small they just look black. Is this a method of identifying facsimiles?

Finally found issue 3 today. Havent read it yet, gonna go through INfiltration and Escalation tonite in one fell swoop. But perhaps its just a coincidence. Koska was the only facimilie there, wasnt he? If ont, why didnt the autobots try to get the other guy as well?

Insurgent wrote:

Leonardo wrote:I was just reading issue #3 of this and I noticed that on page 11 Koska looks like he has blue eyes with purple irises/pupils. Then, on page 14 or so, the leader of the opposition has a close-up panel where his eyes look to be blue with purple irises. I've only noticed it in these two panels as a lot of the time the eyes are so small they just look black. Is this a method of identifying facsimiles?

Finally found issue 3 today. Havent read it yet, gonna go through INfiltration and Escalation tonite in one fell swoop. But perhaps its just a coincidence. Koska was the only facimilie there, wasnt he? If ont, why didnt the autobots try to get the other guy as well?

Well they didn't know is the easiest answer.

Colors could be a coincidence, but is a nice pick up nonetheless.

Finally got Issue #6, and I jumped into it, thinking I had only missed issue #5, but I also missed issue #4!
What is so good about these comics is that I could figure out what is going on fairly quickly.

Cant wait for Devastation, and Revelation, to see what really happened to Ironhide, how Nightbeat "broke" the clone (we all know he did it, Hot Rod had guarded him well)
Personally Im not sure if with all the damage he received from Skywarp if Hot Rod was still altogether with it after being beamed aboard the Shuttle.
He said himself that two jumps would rattle him a fair bit, so it is possible that with the damage and the jump, Hot Rod could have been either really "concussed" or injured, allowing Nightbeat to put Hot Rod in the CR chamber and squish the clone.
If Nightbeat actually fought Hot Rod, then healing him in the CR chamber wouldnt be the brightest thing to do, and I doubt Furman is going to kill off Hot Rod, when he still has the Dealer card up his sleeve.

Insurgent wrote:What if Galvatron wanted the Autobts/Decepticon conflict on Earth to continue and escalate, so Megs would call in Sixshot, knowing the Reapers would follow, so Galvatron could harness their power and become powerful enough to wipe out the warring factions and take control of the entire Transformer race? Thus creating an empire that spans the cosmos?

Nice. Very nice. I hope that or something like it is the case; Megs would not take too kindly to being manipulated like that.

It's been quite some time since we've seen G1 Megs and G1 Galvatron throw down. I wouldn't object to another round. The fact that they're different entities in this continuity makes it even more interesting.

Insurgent wrote:

Leonardo wrote:I was just reading issue #3 of this and I noticed that on page 11 Koska looks like he has blue eyes with purple irises/pupils. Then, on page 14 or so, the leader of the opposition has a close-up panel where his eyes look to be blue with purple irises. I've only noticed it in these two panels as a lot of the time the eyes are so small they just look black. Is this a method of identifying facsimiles?

Finally found issue 3 today. Havent read it yet, gonna go through INfiltration and Escalation tonite in one fell swoop. But perhaps its just a coincidence. Koska was the only facimilie there, wasnt he? If ont, why didnt the autobots try to get the other guy as well?

Well, I don't know. I can't tell if the Autobots can only detect facsimiles at close range or if they can't detect them at all.

Off the top of my head, I can't even remember how they determined that Koska was a facsimile, but I do remember the Autobots telling the humans that employing facsimiles was part of their modus operandi, so it's possible the Autobots just calculated Koska was a facsimile (based on the fact that Koska was holding what they rightly believed to be Megatron). If that was the case, then they'd have no evidence that anyone else was a facsimile, which is why they needed Koska's template. That would explain why they don't get the other guy as well.

Leonardo is on thw right track on top of page 13, Prowl and Prime are looking at a satellite image of Koska firing off Megatron. They recognize and identify the discharges of the gun Koska isfiring to be Megatron and therefore the one firing him off must be the facsimile.



Oh, and another thought came to me while looking here. Someoe brought up the notion of Bumblebee's absense and I believe I have an answer. A simpleone, but an answer none the less.

On the same page as I was describing above, on the last panel Prime says to prowl "Ready your strike team."

We know Bumblebee's a scout, not apart of the strike team, that's why he's absent from the battles in Brasneya.

That would make sense. So, Bumblebee's either out scouting about or he's guarding the base. Maybe he's waiting for new troops to arrive?

Do we know if Optimus came to Earth alone? At the end of "Stormbringer" he was in a ship (an Ark?) with some other fellows (Crosshairs was one, I think). Did they drop him off then go back to where they came from? Did Prime orbital bounce down to Earth and Crosshairs et al's ship is still in Earth orbit? Did Prime board a ship on his own between "Stormbringer" and "Infiltration #6"?

Leonardo wrote:That would make sense. So, Bumblebee's either out scouting about or he's guarding the base. Maybe he's waiting for new troops to arrive?

Do we know if Optimus came to Earth alone? At the end of "Stormbringer" he was in a ship (an Ark?) with some other fellows (Crosshairs was one, I think). Did they drop him off then go back to where they came from? Did Prime orbital bounce down to Earth and Crosshairs et al's ship is still in Earth orbit? Did Prime board a ship on his own between "Stormbringer" and "Infiltration #6"?

I also thought it was a bit odd for Prime to come alone. In previous continuities it would not bother me, but since they're going for a more realistic & solid command structure in this one you'd think that the guy on the top would have some bodyguards and assistants wandering around with him.

Leonardo wrote:
That would make sense. So, Bumblebee's either out scouting about or he's guarding the base. Maybe he's waiting for new troops to arrive?

Do we know if Optimus came to Earth alone? At the end of "Stormbringer" he was in a ship (an Ark?) with some other fellows (Crosshairs was one, I think). Did they drop him off then go back to where they came from? Did Prime orbital bounce down to Earth and Crosshairs et al's ship is still in Earth orbit? Did Prime board a ship on his own between "Stormbringer" and "Infiltration #6"?


I also thought it was a bit odd for Prime to come alone. In previous continuities it would not bother me, but since they're going for a more realistic & solid command structure in this one you'd think that the guy on the top would have some bodyguards and assistants wandering around with him.

Probably an orbital bounce. And the ship he came on was probably sent off back to Cybertron. Afterall, they left Jetfire and the wreckers there without a ship (unless someone we didnt see was left on the Xantium). Or Prime sent them off to track down where Thunderwing went. Which would lead them to Nebulos. And the remains of the Zarak Consortium whose leader was tragically crippled 29 years ago and probably in need of a new body.

tigertracks 24 wrote:You mean because of whatever that one person did to his head in the NIghtbeat Spotlight right???

im still confused on that

steve2275 wrote:

tigertracks 24 wrote:You mean because of whatever that one person did to his head in the NIghtbeat Spotlight right???

im still confused on that

Yeah, I think we all are. Well, I know I am. It is hard to tell who, exactly, is messing with his cranium, and of course, we have no idea exactly what all was done...

Is it assumed that Ironhide is dead?

They showed him being really messed up but Transformers have come back from being really messed up before

I doutb he's dead, but severly damaged; hell yes.

I really don't want them to kill Ironhide off because it doesn't seem like that blast should be powerful enough to kill him. If Prime can get his aft handed to him five times over by super-Megs and live, Ironhide should be OK. Saying that, I don't expect him to be appearing again on his feet until well into Devastation or even Revolation.

^^^ yep he isn't dead if screamer is still alive after taking one of the hardest hits to date in the series....then it is safe to say not many bots will die out right....poof

I think the 5 page preview of Galvatron stated that Ironhide was out of action, but I can't remember the details...

tigertracks 24 wrote:I think the 5 page preview of Galvatron stated that Ironhide was out of action, but I can't remember the details...

It did. Ratchet said that their little excursion "cost them dearly" but I still don't think Ironhide is dead. It doesn't seem right for Ironhide to be the first TF casualty. I suppose story wise this could potentially creat some awesome character conflictions, but still...

Ironhide can't be dead.

Well Ironhide would only be the first named Transformer to die, if he did indeed die from that explosion (personally I think he is just badly injured). After all, Kup killed dozens of bots in his Spotlight....

When Ratchet mentioned that the "excursion cost us dearly" I had the feeling that he meant more than just Ironhide's injury, like the excursion had broken their cover or exposed their alt modes to Earth Agencies, or something along those lines as well.

i_amtrunks wrote:Well Ironhide would only be the first named Transformer to die, if he did indeed die from that explosion (personally I think he is just badly injured). After all, Kup killed dozens of bots in his Spotlight....

When Ratchet mentioned that the "excursion cost us dearly" I had the feeling that he meant more than just Ironhide's injury, like the excursion had broken their cover or exposed their alt modes to Earth Agencies, or something along those lines as well.

Good point.

ok, is it safe to assume after looking at what happened to Ironhide and to a some degree Sunstreaker that Transformers are much more vulnerable in their alt modes than robot forms?

Ironhide wouldn't even be the first named Transformer to die. Didn't Iguanas die in "Stormbringer" (just before Bludgeon went nuts in his shell)? I remember Prime holding Iguanas' hand then Iguanas seemingly went off-line for good.

I have another question: at the end of issue #6, how did the Reapers know about Earth or where Sixshot was going? At the end of Sixshot's spotlight, it was implied that the Reapers had left for the time being (I remember them walking off, saying something to the effect of, "Whenever the ties that bind irrevocably snap, we will find you again"). So, were they still in Sixshot's company at the end of issue #6? Did they listen in on his transmission from the Decepticons on Earth? Do the Reapers have a vast knowledge of the universe and thus already know of Earth?

Leonardo wrote:I have another question: at the end of issue #6, how did the Reapers know about Earth or where Sixshot was going? At the end of Sixshot's spotlight, it was implied that the Reapers had left for the time being (I remember them walking off, saying something to the effect of, "Whenever the ties that bind irrevocably snap, we will find you again"). So, were they still in Sixshot's company at the end of issue #6? Did they listen in on his transmission from the Decepticons on Earth? Do the Reapers have a vast knowledge of the universe and thus already know of Earth?

This just fuels my dislike of the reapers (I won't even dignify them with a capital r) and belief that they are nothing more than replacements for Unicron & his planet destroyer plot device.

They never said they were leaving the planet. They just sorta left. They probably planted a bug on Sixshot when they were fighting him. Thats how they were able to listen in. They weren't in Sixshots company, cos he left form the station he was in at teh start of his spotlight. I hope the reapers dont have too big a part to play, its too early to introduce third factions.