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I have no interest in the shells im just getting the bots. A bunch of dinosaurs with saddles would look pretty silly on a TF shelf in my opinion. Were the shells even in the Japanese cartoon ? Or were they just for the toys ?

Yes, they were in the cartoons. 'Twas quite silly too....

Agamemnon wrote:Yes, they were in the cartoons. 'Twas quite silly too....

Really ? Im speechless. Well I guess if you wanna hide from humans on earth, what better way than as dinosaurs ? As much as I love the G1 cartoon, im kind of glad they pulled the plug on it rather than killing it slowly with pretenders, powermaster engines, and action masters. Some concepts were better left off the TV screen.

Being a cartoon for kids, I think they were kinda great back in the day.


Fun Fact: Kakuryu ends up becoming GrimMaster in the Japanese toy continuity, so he's kinda awesome in his own right

I don't plan on getting the shells, but they should be made relatively easy to get for those who do want them.

Mkall wrote:

mbd88prime wrote:so i think its very stupid to release the shells as convention exclusives. i know that fansproject said they would be released seperately but i dont recall them saying anything about being convention exclusives.

I believe they will see a mass market release. Maudhouse Toys must've gotten an early shipment or something.

Agreed. They will be made available on the mass market.

I got the first two in hand & I like them. Quality figures & great looking robot modes. None of the joints on mine were scary tight either which is nice.

Rated X wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:Yes, they were in the cartoons. 'Twas quite silly too....

Really ? Im speechless. Well I guess if you wanna hide from humans on earth, what better way than as dinosaurs ? As much as I love the G1 cartoon, im kind of glad they pulled the plug on it rather than killing it slowly with pretenders, powermaster engines, and action masters. Some concepts were better left off the TV screen.

Not only were the shells in Victory, they were the only "altmodes" the Dinoforce had. They never actually transformed.

Midnight_Fox wrote:

Rated X wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:Yes, they were in the cartoons. 'Twas quite silly too....

Really ? Im speechless. Well I guess if you wanna hide from humans on earth, what better way than as dinosaurs ? As much as I love the G1 cartoon, im kind of glad they pulled the plug on it rather than killing it slowly with pretenders, powermaster engines, and action masters. Some concepts were better left off the TV screen.

Not only were the shells in Victory, they were the only "altmodes" the Dinoforce had. They never actually transformed.

Well, except into Dinoking limbs....

Got an email from BBTS. Dinosan should be shipping out soon.

decided to hold off til i know i can get the shells. cancelled pre orders for now. if they decide to ship them with the shells in the future i don't want to be buying a second set of the bots.

bummed bout this though....

mbd88prime wrote:decided to hold off til i know i can get the shells. cancelled pre orders for now. if they decide to ship them with the shells in the future i don't want to be buying a second set of the bots.

bummed bout this though....

The more I look at the pictures of the shells, the less I like them. My friend who has the first one from TFCon says its the size of a football. What am I really gonna do with that ? That would be a waste of shelf space to me. If the Monstructor version comes with the shells, I might not double dip on the molds. The shells are just too stupid looking for me.

Rated X wrote:

mbd88prime wrote:decided to hold off til i know i can get the shells. cancelled pre orders for now. if they decide to ship them with the shells in the future i don't want to be buying a second set of the bots.

bummed bout this though....

The more I look at the pictures of the shells, the less I like them. My friend who has the first one from TFCon says its the size of a football. What am I really gonna do with that ? That would be a waste of shelf space to me. If the Monstructor version comes with the shells, I might not double dip on the molds. The shells are just too stupid looking for me.

for me, if a product is cool enough i make the space! and transformer dino rider combiners are cool enough! being the size of a football only makes it more cool- dino anything should be big.

also, i know i've said this already but, i feel like this was an expensive bait and switch. before the first two bots came out they showed all of these pictures of the set and then they showed pictures of the shells they were making to go with them. i was excited for the above reasons. when the first two came out i bought them right up. it wasn't until after these came in stock and myself and i am sure many others bought the first two that they said oh by the way the shells are going to be limited quantity and only available at random conventions scattered light years away from where you live. "by the fans for the fans" gotta run!!!

i forget who but one reviewer i watched had the right idea- there should be two options for customers to buy: the bot itself or a "deluxe" version that comes with the shell. in the latter case the bot would ship inside of the shell so as to be more efficient on shipping.

if anyone knows someone that is willing to sell their tricerabot shell pm me i am interested!

mbd88prime wrote:being the size of a football only makes it more cool- dino anything should be big.

But should these rubber dinos be bigger than Columpio, Cubrar, and Volar ?

I don't think it was a bait and switch scam. Pretenders are not well liked among the fandom. Ask Rick Alvarez, lol. They knew for every fan that wants the shells, theyre would be 5 that don't. But I do agree they should be made available online for those who want them. FP Core, perhaps ? All I know is if the Monstructor repaint comes with the shells and costs an extra $150-200 more than Dinoking costs without the shells, Fansproject lost my money.

idk if it was on purpose or not. had the same effect on me either way. oh well more money for other stuff. until they make them shells available of course. then they'll have me hooked again

Rated X wrote:

mbd88prime wrote:being the size of a football only makes it more cool- dino anything should be big.

But should these rubber dinos be bigger than Columpio, Cubrar, and Volar ?

I don't think it was a bait and switch scam. Pretenders are not well liked among the fandom. Ask Rick Alvarez, lol. They knew for every fan that wants the shells, theyre would be 5 that don't. But I do agree they should be made available online for those who want them. FP Core, perhaps ? All I know is if the Monstructor repaint comes with the shells and costs an extra $150-200 more than Dinoking costs without the shells, Fansproject lost my money.

I'm with X, it doesn't really feel like a bait and switch to me(partly since it doesn't really match any definition I learned in economics and advertising classes). I seem to remember that they told us fairly early on that the figures wouldn't be releasing with the shells.

Midnight_Fox wrote:

Rated X wrote:

mbd88prime wrote:being the size of a football only makes it more cool- dino anything should be big.

But should these rubber dinos be bigger than Columpio, Cubrar, and Volar ?

I don't think it was a bait and switch scam. Pretenders are not well liked among the fandom. Ask Rick Alvarez, lol. They knew for every fan that wants the shells, theyre would be 5 that don't. But I do agree they should be made available online for those who want them. FP Core, perhaps ? All I know is if the Monstructor repaint comes with the shells and costs an extra $150-200 more than Dinoking costs without the shells, Fansproject lost my money.

I'm with X, it doesn't really feel like a bait and switch to me(partly since it doesn't really match any definition I learned in economics and advertising classes). I seem to remember that they told us fairly early on that the figures wouldn't be releasing with the shells.

it matches the definition i learned in economics and advertising classes. unfortunately i work at a grocery store and every time the picture in an ad is wrong, not just the wording, customers get pissed that they invested time and money(gas)-kinda like my spending $200-and come in and find we don't have that item -kinda like not making the shells available for everyone to purchase- and we have to print corrections etc. same thing. its not just a matter of what is explicitly said its also what is implied. they showed pictures of the shells alongside the bots(whether they come with the bots or seperate isnt the point but that the shells would be available to buy period)and never said they were exclusive to conventions. you can even go to the fp facebook right now and see the time stamped on aug 28 ads that say tricerabot is coming soon. on the website it shows dinoking together with the whole set of shells(art) on the same day. it says nothing about being exclusive they are simply shown together. not long after the first two bots came in stock and shipped on sep 18. if i had any idea that those ads were not entirely true i would not have spent the money until i knew i could buy the shells. i feel cheated because to me the shells are essential to these characters and i spent my money with the understanding that the shells were "coming soon"

mbd88prime wrote:

Midnight_Fox wrote:

Rated X wrote:

mbd88prime wrote:being the size of a football only makes it more cool- dino anything should be big.

But should these rubber dinos be bigger than Columpio, Cubrar, and Volar ?

I don't think it was a bait and switch scam. Pretenders are not well liked among the fandom. Ask Rick Alvarez, lol. They knew for every fan that wants the shells, theyre would be 5 that don't. But I do agree they should be made available online for those who want them. FP Core, perhaps ? All I know is if the Monstructor repaint comes with the shells and costs an extra $150-200 more than Dinoking costs without the shells, Fansproject lost my money.

I'm with X, it doesn't really feel like a bait and switch to me(partly since it doesn't really match any definition I learned in economics and advertising classes). I seem to remember that they told us fairly early on that the figures wouldn't be releasing with the shells.

it matches the definition i learned in economics and advertising classes. unfortunately i work at a grocery store and every time the picture in an ad is wrong, not just the wording, customers get pissed that they invested time and money(gas)-kinda like my spending $200-and come in and find we don't have that item -kinda like not making the shells available for everyone to purchase- and we have to print corrections etc. same thing. its not just a matter of what is explicitly said its also what is implied. they showed pictures of the shells alongside the bots(whether they come with the bots or seperate isnt the point but that the shells would be available to buy period)and never said they were exclusive to conventions. you can even go to the fp facebook right now and see the time stamped on aug 28 ads that say tricerabot is coming soon. on the website it shows dinoking together with the whole set of shells(art) on the same day. it says nothing about being exclusive they are simply shown together. not long after the first two bots came in stock and shipped on sep 18. if i had any idea that those ads were not entirely true i would not have spent the money until i knew i could buy the shells. i feel cheated because to me the shells are essential to these characters and i spent my money with the understanding that the shells were "coming soon"

Pictures of products sitting together and/or being shown/announced together at a trade show =/= advertising in the way you're comparing it. In no way were these advertised by the actual company as being sold in any way that actually matches a definition of bait and switch, that being "the action (generally illegal) of advertising goods that are an apparent bargain, with the intention of substituting inferior or more expensive goods."

Not making the shells mass retail is not the same as them not being available at all.

Midnight_Fox wrote:

mbd88prime wrote:

Midnight_Fox wrote:

Rated X wrote:

mbd88prime wrote:being the size of a football only makes it more cool- dino anything should be big.

But should these rubber dinos be bigger than Columpio, Cubrar, and Volar ?

I don't think it was a bait and switch scam. Pretenders are not well liked among the fandom. Ask Rick Alvarez, lol. They knew for every fan that wants the shells, theyre would be 5 that don't. But I do agree they should be made available online for those who want them. FP Core, perhaps ? All I know is if the Monstructor repaint comes with the shells and costs an extra $150-200 more than Dinoking costs without the shells, Fansproject lost my money.

I'm with X, it doesn't really feel like a bait and switch to me(partly since it doesn't really match any definition I learned in economics and advertising classes). I seem to remember that they told us fairly early on that the figures wouldn't be releasing with the shells.

it matches the definition i learned in economics and advertising classes. unfortunately i work at a grocery store and every time the picture in an ad is wrong, not just the wording, customers get pissed that they invested time and money(gas)-kinda like my spending $200-and come in and find we don't have that item -kinda like not making the shells available for everyone to purchase- and we have to print corrections etc. same thing. its not just a matter of what is explicitly said its also what is implied. they showed pictures of the shells alongside the bots(whether they come with the bots or seperate isnt the point but that the shells would be available to buy period)and never said they were exclusive to conventions. you can even go to the fp facebook right now and see the time stamped on aug 28 ads that say tricerabot is coming soon. on the website it shows dinoking together with the whole set of shells(art) on the same day. it says nothing about being exclusive they are simply shown together. not long after the first two bots came in stock and shipped on sep 18. if i had any idea that those ads were not entirely true i would not have spent the money until i knew i could buy the shells. i feel cheated because to me the shells are essential to these characters and i spent my money with the understanding that the shells were "coming soon"

Pictures of products sitting together and/or being shown/announced together at a trade show =/= advertising in the way you're comparing it. In no way were these advertised by the actual company as being sold in any way that actually matches a definition of bait and switch, that being "the action (generally illegal) of advertising goods that are an apparent bargain, with the intention of substituting inferior or more expensive goods."

Not making the shells mass retail is not the same as them not being available at all.

k

got a hold of a tricerabot finally, and you can mount all guns including missile pods/feet/hands on shell by plugging pegs on side of his gun into pin holes on side of feet/hands- they happen to be 5mm perfect fit!

Just got an email from BBTS that Dinoshi will be processing in the next ten business days. I am hyped!

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Just got an email from BBTS that Dinoshi will be processing in the next ten business days. I am hyped!

And now it's processing!

I'm impressed with how quick FP got these out. Now I just need the two legs.

Mkall wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Just got an email from BBTS that Dinoshi will be processing in the next ten business days. I am hyped!

And now it's processing!

I'm impressed with how quick FP got these out. Now I just need the two legs.

I am, too. What's even better is just how well-done they are, IMHO.

I really like the look of the brontosaurus shell. Might have to jump on that one.

I've got four of them right now. Each is excellent in just about every way. I cannot wait for the final two. Come on, preorders at least, please?

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I've got four of them right now. Each is excellent in just about every way. I cannot wait for the final two. Come on, preorders at least, please?

Didn't FP do something similar with Menasor? Release the first 4 in relative quickness, and then wait a decade (exaggeration) for Motormaster?