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News Credits: 119 · Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:49 am

KapowToys has mentioned via their facebook page, and they already have an order page ready.

http://www.kapowtoys.co.uk/fansproject- ... -6079.html

c/o KapowToys' Facebook page

News Credits: 15 · Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:59 am

Is this supposed to be an existing character?

I like it and hope it has a dark paint scheme.

News Credits: 119 · Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:05 am

Ravage XK wrote:Is this supposed to be an existing character?

I like it and hope it has a dark paint scheme.

Based on G1 character Broadside, who's also a triple changer.

News Credits: 15 · Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:09 am

Wow, just looked up the G1 Broadside toy. I guess this will replicate the red/white/grey colour scheme then. I hope they tone down the red or reduce it in area.

Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:53 am

Pretty sure I read somewhere that this guy will have 4 modes? 2 vehicle modes and 2 different robot modes?

Really looking forward to this one, just hope the price is reasonable. I know he's big & has die-cast, but keep it under $100 please!

News Credits: 1 · Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:14 am

Mekatron wrote:Pretty sure I read somewhere that this guy will have 4 modes? 2 vehicle modes and 2 different robot modes?

Really looking forward to this one, just hope the price is reasonable. I know he's big & has die-cast, but keep it under $100 please!

Doubt it'll be under $100, but I'm guessing in the $120 range.

News Credits: 5 · Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:08 pm

daimchoc wrote:KapowToys has mentioned via their facebook page, and they already have an order page ready.

http://www.kapowtoys.co.uk/fansproject- ... -6079.html

c/o KapowToys' Facebook page

would it be too much to ask, if FP would at least show the other modes and colors before pre-orders?

Don't get me wrong, after Steelcore, FP has my loyalty, but enough teasing already.

News Credits: 119 · Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:26 pm

From the convention, it was said that the MSRP would be around $90USD.

Pics, sure... but not the final colors. MIssing trims and the canopy is supposed to be translucent.

You got the bot, the aircraft, the watercraft, and then some sort of Gerwalk type (? - not shown).

News Credits: 1 · Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:08 pm

I'm happy to hear this guy's getting a general release as I'm not too keen to go through FansProjectCore again quite so soon.

Please say they've decided to leave off the blue and yellow lines on his legs. :PRAY:

Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:14 pm

Sodan-1 wrote:Please say they've decided to leave off the blue and yellow lines on his legs.

I must be the only one who like the blue & yellow...

News Credits: 1 · Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:26 pm

Mekatron wrote:
Sodan-1 wrote:Please say they've decided to leave off the blue and yellow lines on his legs.

I must be the only one who like the blue & yellow...

I get that they're (probably) a nod to the circuitry stickers we used to get with G1 figures, but they strike me as out-of-place given the reletive blandness of his upper body.

Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:00 pm

I like this figure quite a bit.

Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:11 pm

Pre-Order seems to have been and gone already on Kapow - anyone else going to put a pre-order up?

Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:44 pm

Why is it not on BBTS, Robot Kingdom, or TF Source yet ???

Has anyone else noticed that the "Big 3" seem to avoid selling certain random 3rd party figures ???

Toyworld Hegemon a "no-go" but Toyworld Throttlebots are ok ???

Everyone scared to sell Art-Feather Bumblebee ??? (Big props to Tony)

Survival Specialist Wheelie ???

I can understand the KO's but WTF ???

News Credits: 1 · Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:47 pm

Motorthing wrote:Pre-Order seems to have been and gone already on Kapow - anyone else going to put a pre-order up?

Not at all. They've just go the page ready for once they get details of how much and how many. They haven't gone on sale just yet.

News Credits: 119 · Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:58 pm

Rated X wrote:Why is it not on BBTS, Robot Kingdom, or TF Source yet ???

Has anyone else noticed that the "Big 3" seem to avoid selling certain random 3rd party figures ???

Toyworld Hegemon a "no-go" but Toyworld Throttlebots are ok ???

Everyone scared to sell Art-Feather Bumblebee ??? (Big props to Tony)

Survival Specialist Wheelie ???

I can understand the KO's but WTF ???

1. KapowToy's only has a placeholder. The other e-tailers will eventually have this up for pre-order.
2. Hegemon closely resembles MP Megs which is why BBTS and TFSource didn't carry it.
3. Art Feather BB... What do you expect, it a blatant rip off.

Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:58 pm

Rated X wrote:Why is it not on BBTS, Robot Kingdom, or TF Source yet ???

No need for panic... the preorder page on Kapow Toys only appears to be a placeholder & doesn't even have a price listed. These aren't ready for sale just yet...

News Credits: 2 · Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:58 am

Mekatron wrote:
Rated X wrote:Why is it not on BBTS, Robot Kingdom, or TF Source yet ???

No need for panic... the preorder page on Kapow Toys only appears to be a placeholder & doesn't even have a price listed. These aren't ready for sale just yet...

You should email them if you are interested though, that's what they have advised on facebook.

Sat Sep 29, 2012 1:06 pm

daimchoc wrote:
Rated X wrote:Why is it not on BBTS, Robot Kingdom, or TF Source yet ???

Has anyone else noticed that the "Big 3" seem to avoid selling certain random 3rd party figures ???

Toyworld Hegemon a "no-go" but Toyworld Throttlebots are ok ???

Everyone scared to sell Art-Feather Bumblebee ??? (Big props to Tony)

Survival Specialist Wheelie ???

I can understand the KO's but WTF ???

1. KapowToy's only has a placeholder. The other e-tailers will eventually have this up for pre-order.
2. Hegemon closely resembles MP Megs which is why BBTS and TFSource didn't carry it.
3. Art Feather BB... What do you expect, it a blatant rip off.

I personally find it amusing how they distingush which 3rd party figures are modest IP theft vs. blatant IP theft. It's like one big joke. If your Fansproject or TFC, your blatant IP theft gets downgraded to modest IP theft. But if youre a small, up and coming company you get no love.

News Credits: 119 · Sat Sep 29, 2012 3:41 pm

Rated X wrote:

I personally find it amusing how they distingush which 3rd party figures are modest IP theft vs. blatant IP theft. It's like one big joke. If your Fansproject or TFC, your blatant IP theft gets downgraded to modest IP theft. But if youre a small, up and coming company you get no love.

Well, TFC/FP at least is using a different name and they don't even use the insignias... Art Feather's BB is really that bold. >:oP

Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:43 pm

daimchoc wrote:
Rated X wrote:

I personally find it amusing how they distingush which 3rd party figures are modest IP theft vs. blatant IP theft. It's like one big joke. If your Fansproject or TFC, your blatant IP theft gets downgraded to modest IP theft. But if youre a small, up and coming company you get no love.

Well, TFC/FP at least is using a different name and they don't even use the insignias... Art Feather's BB is really that bold.

See thats where our opinions differ. Thats the kind of boldness I respect. BBTS and TF Source make more money from 3rd party items then they do from Hasbro stuff anyways. So they dont need to appease Hasbro. These companies target audiences are adult collectors. Let Toys-R-Us worry about keeping Hasbro happy.

News Credits: 1 · Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:09 pm

Sometimes I wonder where the line is for things that are too far for BBTS or TFSource. KOs are obviously out, but what Delicate Warrior ok, but not Hegemon? How do the Impossible Toys products get a pass?

I guess it depends on the person and the character. Megatron's a flagship character. Arcee's not. May be that.

And on 3rd party stuff earning more $$$ than Hasbro / Takara stock ... :lol:

Fansprojects has made .... how many items? In their entire existence? Compared to just Hasbro's classics lines? (which sell out). Yeah, I don't care how much more expencive the price is, Hasbro stuff bring in more money. By sheer quantity it brings more in.

News Credits: 119 · Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:32 pm

Rated X wrote:
daimchoc wrote:
Rated X wrote:

I personally find it amusing how they distingush which 3rd party figures are modest IP theft vs. blatant IP theft. It's like one big joke. If your Fansproject or TFC, your blatant IP theft gets downgraded to modest IP theft. But if youre a small, up and coming company you get no love.

Well, TFC/FP at least is using a different name and they don't even use the insignias... Art Feather's BB is really that bold.

See thats where our opinions differ. Thats the kind of boldness I respect. BBTS and TF Source make more money from 3rd party items then they do from Hasbro stuff anyways. So they dont need to appease Hasbro. These companies target audiences are adult collectors. Let Toys-R-Us worry about keeping Hasbro happy.

Sure.... Yet Art Feather is not selling their wares directly, and that product is basically a KO with updates. The base is that of the classics BB. TFC/FP doesn't use any of HasTak's figures as base. FP did have the add-ons, and the full figures that they made are from scratch. BBTS/TFSource/KapowToys all have ties with HasTak, so in essence they still at least, respect that connection. Unless you actually walk in their shoes (BBTS/TFSource), that line of thinking is not going to sit well with others.

Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:02 pm

Putting myself in the shoes of a retailer... I imagine there would be certain products that would make we worry about receiving a "cease and desist" letter. Art Feather BB would definitely be one of them.

News Credits: 1 · Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:31 pm

Yeah, Art feather BB is a stright up KO. It's a KO done with skill, a re-shell many collectors will be interested in, but there's no fundamental difference between it and ... http://chimungmung.com/product_info.php?products_id=172 something like that. Not really. They both copy Hasbro's copyrighted toy and change it up. And not intellectual copyrights either - toys get copywritten based on scuplt. There was a whole craze when people found the Japanese patent office and "new" pics of BW Neo Unicron that way.

Hasbro contols .... how many products now? Transformers, GIJoe, My Little Pony (off the top of my head) and BBTS should give ALL THAT UP to please the 3rd party market and 3rd party fans? To be "ballsy"? Yeah, no. No, that'd just be stupid. There's no possible way all the 3rd party items combined makes more than all the Hasbro takara stuff combined. If Hasbro is going to boycott them for selling KOs then we should be grateful Hasbro doesn't boycott them from selling any 3rd party toy period! Because they really don't have to be nice and allow guys like BBTS that option. They can be total dicks about it and say "no 3rd party toys period or we won't ship to you".