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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby Skritz » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:20 am

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Skritz wrote:I honestly want to bet this figure would have faded as some weird curio some people (weird or not) would have gotten here and there. When controversy started it was immediately propelled to infamy. Now more people will want it due to that.

Maybe this is all viral marketing, Scott is in on it and made the tweet to get interest going? :lol: :lol: :lol:


I highly doubt it.
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby Stormshot_Prime » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:28 am

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Gemstonegemini wrote:Yes Hat, I am dismissive of people like you.

Seriously though, this figure is an embarrassment. That's the worst thing. All it shows anyone from the outside looking in is that Transformers is full of horny man children who want to jerk off to sexy robots.


THEN DONT BUY IT AND STOP RUINING EVERYONE'S FUN, YOU DAMN PURITAN!
"If ---> I <--- don't like it, no one should."
Your kind are allowed to gate or dislike anything. But just leave the hated thing alone and stop it with your Cancel Culture cancer.

Remember when the anti sex people were only Bible thumper from the "far right" and not the "progressives" from the Left?
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You can’t just silence other people’s opinions like that. Like hell no I’m not buying this, and I’m gonna say why. If debate and discord ruins your fun, that’s on you.

Is it really so wrong to want to quality Windblade toy without human nipples and a giant ass? I wouldn’t be looking to buy robots if that’s what I was after.

I’m not some kind of puritan, just because someone objects to something sex-ified doesn’t mean they’re offended by sexuality overall.

And really there’s only one type of person who’s buying this figure. If you want it, sure! Go crazy. It’s not gonna stop people from thinking or saying how weird or gross they think the boob robot is.
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby Black Hat » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:00 am

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Stormshot_Prime wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Gemstonegemini wrote:Yes Hat, I am dismissive of people like you.

Seriously though, this figure is an embarrassment. That's the worst thing. All it shows anyone from the outside looking in is that Transformers is full of horny man children who want to jerk off to sexy robots.


THEN DONT BUY IT AND STOP RUINING EVERYONE'S FUN, YOU DAMN PURITAN!
"If ---> I <--- don't like it, no one should."
Your kind are allowed to gate or dislike anything. But just leave the hated thing alone and stop it with your Cancel Culture cancer.

Remember when the anti sex people were only Bible thumper from the "far right" and not the "progressives" from the Left?
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You can’t just silence other people’s opinions like that. Like hell no I’m not buying this, and I’m gonna say why. If debate and discord ruins your fun, that’s on you.

Which is, ironically enough, exactly what the other side is doing, to a far worse degree. At least we're trying to refute points. And there's a difference between civilized debate and the mud-slinging this thread has become because some people think there's something inherently wrong with the female body.
Is it really so wrong to want to quality Windblade toy without human nipples and a giant ass? I wouldn’t be looking to buy robots if that’s what I was after.

I mean, that's hardly a giant ass, and again you're hardly short on Windblade toys. This sounds like the very definition of not a problem.

I’m not some kind of puritan, just because someone objects to something sex-ified doesn’t mean they’re offended by sexuality overall.

What exactly is wrong with something being depicted as sexy though? Especially a robot toy made of plastic with no animus or sentience? We're not talking about crap like, say, child beauty pageants, where real children are flaunted in often inappropriate dress. We're talking about a fictional character of a female alien robot embodied in an inanimate 5" tall plastic model kit form.
And really there’s only one type of person who’s buying this figure. If you want it, sure! Go crazy. It’s not gonna stop people from thinking or saying how weird or gross they think the boob robot is.

Ah yes, the classic passive-aggressive "You can buy it but you have to be prepared to be considered a pariah for, uh, liking women" move. Maybe, just maybe, the problem is not the existence of sexy robots, but the attitude of thinking that liking sexy robots is a bad thing.
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:12 am

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Well this has certainly erupted, what is it about sex that causes the human psyche to turn out like this :-? Though I do have to laugh at the comments about the far left infiltrating the fandom as I can see the far right here as well. Which is a good thing as it shows that Transformers appeals to all, regardless of ideology (unless said ideology hates plastic). This is an issue that doesn't have an easy answer, it exists for a specific fetish.
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby Black Hat » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:21 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:Well this has certainly erupted, what is it about sex that causes the human psyche to turn out like this :-? Though I do have to laugh at the comments about the far left infiltrating the fandom as I can see the far right here as well. Which is a good thing as it shows that Transformers appeals to all, regardless of ideology (unless said ideology hates plastic). This is an issue that doesn't have an easy answer, it exists for a specific fetish.

I don't think "People should be allowed to enjoy a silly robot kit without getting shouted at for being perverts" is far-right at all. Or if it is, then society has drifted far enough to the left that we need McCarthy back. :HEADHURTS:
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:35 am

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I wasn't necessarily talking about this case. Though personally I think the old left/right system isn't sufficient anymore as people are far more complex then labels we try to use.

Now that I remember, didn't we have all this hooha when her design was first revealed a year ago? I mean this isn't new argument itself is it?
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby Black Hat » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:47 am

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I notice a certain other member of the IDW writing team (Jenevieve Frank) is behaving incredibly unprofessionally, cackling with glee at a creative team being harassed by the No Fun Allowed brigade and calling anyone who disagrees with her stinking attitude "chuds" and "Trukkboys" (whatever the hell that means). I wonder what Hasbro or IDW would think of one of their writers behaving in such an appalling way?
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby Stormshot_Prime » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:50 am

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Black Hat wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Well this has certainly erupted, what is it about sex that causes the human psyche to turn out like this :-? Though I do have to laugh at the comments about the far left infiltrating the fandom as I can see the far right here as well. Which is a good thing as it shows that Transformers appeals to all, regardless of ideology (unless said ideology hates plastic). This is an issue that doesn't have an easy answer, it exists for a specific fetish.

I don't think "People should be allowed to enjoy a silly robot kit without getting shouted at for being perverts" is far-right at all. Or if it is, then society has drifted far enough to the left that we need McCarthy back. :HEADHURTS:


ring back McCarthyism because people criticized a toy? That’s some scary thinking right there man, and you wonder why you sound alt-right.

That Windblade is complete sex appeal, no one is going to buy that without having some kind of sexual motivation behind it. And I hate to say it, but dismissing the sexualization of a character who is popular to all ages and genders is how we ended up with Kiss Players.

There’s plenty of other media out there with sexy women and all that, Why does that have to involve Transformers as well?
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby Lore Keeper » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:54 am

Well ****. I guess me planning on buying it because I like these model kits is actually just a sexual motivation. Whatever will the Mrs think when I tell her I've actually just been a giant perv this whole time. Thank you for revealing to me my own motivations. I could not have realized them without you.
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby Black Hat » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:00 am

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Stormshot_Prime wrote:
Black Hat wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Well this has certainly erupted, what is it about sex that causes the human psyche to turn out like this :-? Though I do have to laugh at the comments about the far left infiltrating the fandom as I can see the far right here as well. Which is a good thing as it shows that Transformers appeals to all, regardless of ideology (unless said ideology hates plastic). This is an issue that doesn't have an easy answer, it exists for a specific fetish.

I don't think "People should be allowed to enjoy a silly robot kit without getting shouted at for being perverts" is far-right at all. Or if it is, then society has drifted far enough to the left that we need McCarthy back. :HEADHURTS:


ring back McCarthyism because people criticized a toy? That’s some scary thinking right there man, and you wonder why you sound alt-right.

That Windblade is complete sex appeal, no one is going to buy that without having some kind of sexual motivation behind it. And I hate to say it, but dismissing the sexualization of a character who is popular to all ages and genders is how we ended up with Kiss Players.

There’s plenty of other media out there with sexy women and all that, Why does that have to involve Transformers as well?

Do you even know what the Alt-Right is? Because I suspect you don't. Regardless, I'm not Alt-Right.

As far as bringing back McCarthyism, I'm not suggesting it because of people losing their tempers over a toy, I'm suggesting it because there are people that think that anyone short of an out and out communist is "far right". Although if they are, then being far-right is obviously not that bad a thing, given that socialism has birthed some of the worst, bloodiest regimes in human history.
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:06 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:Well this has certainly erupted, what is it about sex that causes the human psyche to turn out like this :-? Though I do have to laugh at the comments about the far left infiltrating the fandom as I can see the far right here as well. Which is a good thing as it shows that Transformers appeals to all, regardless of ideology (unless said ideology hates plastic). This is an issue that doesn't have an easy answer, it exists for a specific fetish.


As I see things happening around me, the genuine "far right" is deep in a hole, hidden from everyone. Only the moderates VS the "far left" remain. And the irony is this current far-left is a repaint of the classic far-right.

It's baffling but eh, this is current year.
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:26 am

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I'd argue that most people at the top of those socialist regimes weren't practicing what they were preaching. It's the phrase absolute power corrupts absolutely. That is also true for the opposite as Capitalist regimes don't do very well either, especially when they have idiots in charge.

Though how we got from talking about model kits to this... :-?

As it stands I wouldn't buy it, not when I've got Gundans still to buy.
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby ThunderThruster » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:37 am

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As I eluded to in my previous post, I think it's far to generic 'Sci-fi fem-bot' and is lacking some of the alt-mode kibble that Windblade ought to have.
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:41 am

Toss in my opinion on a statue I won't be buying anyway? Sure, why not.

I don't mind the sex appeal of this. But the ass looks out of place to me. Every other part of her is hyper detailed ... except her ass. It seems awkward.
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:41 am

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ThunderThruster wrote:As I eluded to in my previous post, I think it's far to generic 'Sci-fi fem-bot' and is lacking some of the alt-mode kibble that Windblade ought to have.

It's the style I think, unlike Prime or Starscream who's basic design have alt mode bits on display, Windblade only has the wings, wings they may have thought were too big for posing purposes so went for a reduced look. As Krana pointed out she's even missing the tips of the wings which further alters the look.
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby ThunderThruster » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:47 am

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It we be interesting to see how different she looks once in colour.
The same with Primal. though I'm not hugely convinced on the contouring lines he's sporting on some area's that is supposed to invoke a "fur" like manner.
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:51 am

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Yeah I'm not sold so much on Primal but colour images might salvage it. We'll wait and see.
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:57 am

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ThunderThruster wrote:As I eluded to in my previous post, I think it's far to generic 'Sci-fi fem-bot' and is lacking some of the alt-mode kibble that Windblade ought to have.


My main beef also.
Awesome fembot, but not a proper Transformers.

However, taking down the tweet smell like bending the knee to the puritan outrage mob.
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby blackeyedprime » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:17 pm

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For those that have any of the flame toy kits are they really worth double the price of a comparable gundam kit?
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby Fires_Of_Inferno » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:24 pm

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Sssoooooo...

Is this a bad time for me to say that I was a big fan of Hajime Sorayama when I was a kid? He's the guy who made all the artwork of sexy chrome robot ladies.

When I was a kid I wasn't interested in playing with the GI Joe figures or the hugely muscular masters of the universe figures. The he-man ones in particular felt weird for me to have. In my mind I thought "I like girls, shouldn't I have action figures of girls?" Of course unless they're dolls, they didn't make female action figures, and for all I know (I don't keep up) they still don't usually because "boys don't want to play with them." Yes my parents had to stop telling me to play with dolls and hand me back my he-man with his giant man nipples.

I mean these days my ideal body shape for women is "human". Fat, thin, muscular, tall, short, I really don't care, the body isn't the important part. But that doesn't mean that I still don't mind having figures of female transformers, even in their default thin waist, combat-heel form I like them (despite how much combat-heels irritate me). Generations Arcee, Classics Windblade, Animated Blackarachnia, RID Strongarm, BM Strika, RoTF Elita-1, Beast Hunters Ripclaw, it really doesn't matter to me.

Having said all that, if I miss out on the opportunity to have a Windblade figure that brings to mind the sexy chrome robots little me was interested in because you bastards don't like sexy, I swear I will sit here and be mad because realistically I can't do anything about it.
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:09 pm

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Black Hat wrote:Do you even know what the Alt-Right is? Because I suspect you don't. Regardless, I'm not Alt-Right.

As far as bringing back McCarthyism, I'm not suggesting it because of people losing their tempers over a toy, I'm suggesting it because there are people that think that anyone short of an out and out communist is "far right". Although if they are, then being far-right is obviously not that bad a thing, given that socialism has birthed some of the worst, bloodiest regimes in human history.

-Kanrabat- wrote:As I see things happening around me, the genuine "far right" is deep in a hole, hidden from everyone. Only the moderates VS the "far left" remain. And the irony is this current far-left is a repaint of the classic far-right.

It's baffling but eh, this is current year.


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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:32 pm

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Toss in my opinion on a statue I won't be buying anyway? Sure, why not.

I don't mind the sex appeal of this. But the ass looks out of place to me. Every other part of her is hyper detailed ... except her ass. It seems awkward.


That is the one thing I find offputting about this design too. It isn't the fact that the female proportions may be considered "sexy". It is that the whole butt just looks weird, especially in that last pose. To me she looks like she either dislocated a butt cheek, or she was cooked properly so the meat is falling off the bone.
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:33 pm

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read a damn book or something



Gotta admit that the Culture War is entertaining.
Just look up Project Melody . ;)
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby Burn » Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:04 pm

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Jeddostotle7 wrote:
sweet christ y'all

read a damn book or something



Gotta admit that the Culture War is entertaining.
Just look up Project Melody . ;)

And this is where I'm putting an end to it.

Save the left/right socio-political stuff for another thread. Let's keep this about the figures.

Good or bad, like it or hate it, everyone is entitled to their opinion. LEARN TO **** ACCEPT OPINIONS DIFFERENT TO YOURS.


And yes, go read a **** book.
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

Postby AcademyofDrX » Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:09 pm

blackeyedprime wrote:For those that have any of the flame toy kits are they really worth double the price of a comparable gundam kit?

They are to me, because I enjoy the Transformers characters more than the Gundam models. I'm a big fan of the IDW comics, and I don't buy third-party toys, so this lets me have licensed toys with those designs. I haven't assembled Gundam kits in the last two decades, but if you only care about the experience or see the finished products as equal, you may be better off sticking with Gundam.

I've constructed IDW Optimus and Autobot Megatron, and I have the Drift and Starscream kits unopened. I plan to repaint Starscream into Slipstream. IDW Rodimus is a definite get, and I'm hoping he comes in MTMTE and Lost Light colors. I have paint on hand, I may just buy two. I'm only going to get Windblade if she gets a redesign for reasons that are probably obvious by now.
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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #254 - Redlining Sixth
Twincast / Podcast #254:
"Redlining Sixth"
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