The Energon Pub

[ZeroWolf]

I wasn't necessarily talking about this case. Though personally I think the old left/right system isn't sufficient anymore as people are far more complex then labels we try to use.

Now that I remember, didn't we have all this hooha when her design was first revealed a year ago? I mean this isn't new argument itself is it?

[Evil Eye]

I notice a certain other member of the IDW writing team (Jenevieve Frank) is behaving incredibly unprofessionally, cackling with glee at a creative team being harassed by the No Fun Allowed brigade and calling anyone who disagrees with her stinking attitude "chuds" and "Trukkboys" (whatever the hell that means). I wonder what Hasbro or IDW would think of one of their writers behaving in such an appalling way?

[Stormshot_Prime]

Well this has certainly erupted, what is it about sex that causes the human psyche to turn out like this Though I do have to laugh at the comments about the far left infiltrating the fandom as I can see the far right here as well. Which is a good thing as it shows that Transformers appeals to all, regardless of ideology (unless said ideology hates plastic). This is an issue that doesn't have an easy answer, it exists for a specific fetish.

I don't think "People should be allowed to enjoy a silly robot kit without getting shouted at for being perverts" is far-right at all. Or if it is, then society has drifted far enough to the left that we need McCarthy back.

ring back McCarthyism because people criticized a toy? That’s some scary thinking right there man, and you wonder why you sound alt-right.

That Windblade is complete sex appeal, no one is going to buy that without having some kind of sexual motivation behind it. And I hate to say it, but dismissing the sexualization of a character who is popular to all ages and genders is how we ended up with Kiss Players.

There’s plenty of other media out there with sexy women and all that, Why does that have to involve Transformers as well?

[Lore Keeper]

Well ****. I guess me planning on buying it because I like these model kits is actually just a sexual motivation. Whatever will the Mrs think when I tell her I've actually just been a giant perv this whole time. Thank you for revealing to me my own motivations. I could not have realized them without you.

[Evil Eye]

Well this has certainly erupted, what is it about sex that causes the human psyche to turn out like this Though I do have to laugh at the comments about the far left infiltrating the fandom as I can see the far right here as well. Which is a good thing as it shows that Transformers appeals to all, regardless of ideology (unless said ideology hates plastic). This is an issue that doesn't have an easy answer, it exists for a specific fetish.

I don't think "People should be allowed to enjoy a silly robot kit without getting shouted at for being perverts" is far-right at all. Or if it is, then society has drifted far enough to the left that we need McCarthy back.

ring back McCarthyism because people criticized a toy? That’s some scary thinking right there man, and you wonder why you sound alt-right.

That Windblade is complete sex appeal, no one is going to buy that without having some kind of sexual motivation behind it. And I hate to say it, but dismissing the sexualization of a character who is popular to all ages and genders is how we ended up with Kiss Players.

There’s plenty of other media out there with sexy women and all that, Why does that have to involve Transformers as well?

Do you even know what the Alt-Right is? Because I suspect you don't. Regardless, I'm not Alt-Right.

As far as bringing back McCarthyism, I'm not suggesting it because of people losing their tempers over a toy, I'm suggesting it because there are people that think that anyone short of an out and out communist is "far right". Although if they are, then being far-right is obviously not that bad a thing, given that socialism has birthed some of the worst, bloodiest regimes in human history.

[-Kanrabat-]

Well this has certainly erupted, what is it about sex that causes the human psyche to turn out like this Though I do have to laugh at the comments about the far left infiltrating the fandom as I can see the far right here as well. Which is a good thing as it shows that Transformers appeals to all, regardless of ideology (unless said ideology hates plastic). This is an issue that doesn't have an easy answer, it exists for a specific fetish.

As I see things happening around me, the genuine "far right" is deep in a hole, hidden from everyone. Only the moderates VS the "far left" remain. And the irony is this current far-left is a repaint of the classic far-right.

It's baffling but eh, this is current year.

[ZeroWolf]

I'd argue that most people at the top of those socialist regimes weren't practicing what they were preaching. It's the phrase absolute power corrupts absolutely. That is also true for the opposite as Capitalist regimes don't do very well either, especially when they have idiots in charge.

Though how we got from talking about model kits to this...

As it stands I wouldn't buy it, not when I've got Gundans still to buy.

[ThunderThruster]

As I eluded to in my previous post, I think it's far to generic 'Sci-fi fem-bot' and is lacking some of the alt-mode kibble that Windblade ought to have.

[Gauntlet101010]

Toss in my opinion on a statue I won't be buying anyway? Sure, why not.

I don't mind the sex appeal of this. But the ass looks out of place to me. Every other part of her is hyper detailed ... except her ass. It seems awkward.

[ZeroWolf]

As I eluded to in my previous post, I think it's far to generic 'Sci-fi fem-bot' and is lacking some of the alt-mode kibble that Windblade ought to have.

It's the style I think, unlike Prime or Starscream who's basic design have alt mode bits on display, Windblade only has the wings, wings they may have thought were too big for posing purposes so went for a reduced look. As Krana pointed out she's even missing the tips of the wings which further alters the look.

[ThunderThruster]

It we be interesting to see how different she looks once in colour.
The same with Primal. though I'm not hugely convinced on the contouring lines he's sporting on some area's that is supposed to invoke a "fur" like manner.

[ZeroWolf]

Yeah I'm not sold so much on Primal but colour images might salvage it. We'll wait and see.

[-Kanrabat-]

As I eluded to in my previous post, I think it's far to generic 'Sci-fi fem-bot' and is lacking some of the alt-mode kibble that Windblade ought to have.

My main beef also.
Awesome fembot, but not a proper Transformers.

However, taking down the tweet smell like bending the knee to the puritan outrage mob.

[blackeyedprime]

For those that have any of the flame toy kits are they really worth double the price of a comparable gundam kit?

[Fires_Of_Inferno]

Sssoooooo...

Is this a bad time for me to say that I was a big fan of Hajime Sorayama when I was a kid? He's the guy who made all the artwork of sexy chrome robot ladies.

When I was a kid I wasn't interested in playing with the GI Joe figures or the hugely muscular masters of the universe figures. The he-man ones in particular felt weird for me to have. In my mind I thought "I like girls, shouldn't I have action figures of girls?" Of course unless they're dolls, they didn't make female action figures, and for all I know (I don't keep up) they still don't usually because "boys don't want to play with them." Yes my parents had to stop telling me to play with dolls and hand me back my he-man with his giant man nipples.

I mean these days my ideal body shape for women is "human". Fat, thin, muscular, tall, short, I really don't care, the body isn't the important part. But that doesn't mean that I still don't mind having figures of female transformers, even in their default thin waist, combat-heel form I like them (despite how much combat-heels irritate me). Generations Arcee, Classics Windblade, Animated Blackarachnia, RID Strongarm, BM Strika, RoTF Elita-1, Beast Hunters Ripclaw, it really doesn't matter to me.

Having said all that, if I miss out on the opportunity to have a Windblade figure that brings to mind the sexy chrome robots little me was interested in because you bastards don't like sexy, I swear I will sit here and be mad because realistically I can't do anything about it.

[Jeddostotle7]

Do you even know what the Alt-Right is? Because I suspect you don't. Regardless, I'm not Alt-Right.

As far as bringing back McCarthyism, I'm not suggesting it because of people losing their tempers over a toy, I'm suggesting it because there are people that think that anyone short of an out and out communist is "far right". Although if they are, then being far-right is obviously not that bad a thing, given that socialism has birthed some of the worst, bloodiest regimes in human history.

As I see things happening around me, the genuine "far right" is deep in a hole, hidden from everyone. Only the moderates VS the "far left" remain. And the irony is this current far-left is a repaint of the classic far-right.

It's baffling but eh, this is current year.

sweet christ y'all

read a damn book or something

[TF-fan kev777]

Toss in my opinion on a statue I won't be buying anyway? Sure, why not.

I don't mind the sex appeal of this. But the ass looks out of place to me. Every other part of her is hyper detailed ... except her ass. It seems awkward.

That is the one thing I find offputting about this design too. It isn't the fact that the female proportions may be considered "sexy". It is that the whole butt just looks weird, especially in that last pose. To me she looks like she either dislocated a butt cheek, or she was cooked properly so the meat is falling off the bone.

[-Kanrabat-]

sweet christ y'all

read a damn book or something

Gotta admit that the Culture War is entertaining.
Just look up Project Melody .

[Burn]

sweet christ y'all

read a damn book or something

Gotta admit that the Culture War is entertaining.
Just look up Project Melody .

And this is where I'm putting an end to it.

Save the left/right socio-political stuff for another thread. Let's keep this about the figures.

Good or bad, like it or hate it, everyone is entitled to their opinion. LEARN TO **** ACCEPT OPINIONS DIFFERENT TO YOURS.

And yes, go read a **** book.

[AcademyofDrX]

For those that have any of the flame toy kits are they really worth double the price of a comparable gundam kit?

They are to me, because I enjoy the Transformers characters more than the Gundam models. I'm a big fan of the IDW comics, and I don't buy third-party toys, so this lets me have licensed toys with those designs. I haven't assembled Gundam kits in the last two decades, but if you only care about the experience or see the finished products as equal, you may be better off sticking with Gundam.

I've constructed IDW Optimus and Autobot Megatron, and I have the Drift and Starscream kits unopened. I plan to repaint Starscream into Slipstream. IDW Rodimus is a definite get, and I'm hoping he comes in MTMTE and Lost Light colors. I have paint on hand, I may just buy two. I'm only going to get Windblade if she gets a redesign for reasons that are probably obvious by now.

[ZeroWolf]

I can't see them not re-releasing Hot Rod in the Lost Light colours, I wonder, will they ever do a Rung?

[AcademyofDrX]

Rung seems too niche? But certainly not impossible. I think we'd see more of the big hitters first, like Soundwave.

[blackeyedprime]

For those that have any of the flame toy kits are they really worth double the price of a comparable gundam kit?

They are to me, because I enjoy the Transformers characters more than the Gundam models. I'm a big fan of the IDW comics, and I don't buy third-party toys, so this lets me have licensed toys with those designs. I haven't assembled Gundam kits in the last two decades, but if you only care about the experience or see the finished products as equal, you may be better off sticking with Gundam.

I've constructed IDW Optimus and Autobot Megatron, and I have the Drift and Starscream kits unopened. I plan to repaint Starscream into Slipstream. IDW Rodimus is a definite get, and I'm hoping he comes in MTMTE and Lost Light colors. I have paint on hand, I may just buy two. I'm only going to get Windblade if she gets a redesign for reasons that are probably obvious by now.

Thanks, if I was more onto idw stuff I might have been able (or kinda forced) to jump in on them. Im trying to not go down the gundam sink hole so once I've filled out my ironblooded orphans/maybe give up on build divers I'm considering bee, hound, rodimus and windblade.

[-Kanrabat-]

Repainting Starscream as Slipstream is a great idea. The overall silhouette is very feminine, much like that Optimus. Only mods to do would be to tone down the bulging crotch (for obvious reasons) and change the face if possible.

Too bad I have no talent at repainting figures because that look like a very fun project.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

For those that have any of the flame toy kits are they really worth double the price of a comparable gundam kit?

They are to me, because I enjoy the Transformers characters more than the Gundam models. I'm a big fan of the IDW comics, and I don't buy third-party toys, so this lets me have licensed toys with those designs. I haven't assembled Gundam kits in the last two decades, but if you only care about the experience or see the finished products as equal, you may be better off sticking with Gundam.

I've constructed IDW Optimus and Autobot Megatron, and I have the Drift and Starscream kits unopened. I plan to repaint Starscream into Slipstream. IDW Rodimus is a definite get, and I'm hoping he comes in MTMTE and Lost Light colors. I have paint on hand, I may just buy two. I'm only going to get Windblade if she gets a redesign for reasons that are probably obvious by now.

Pretty much this, I absolutely love the kits. I have the Attack mode Prime, IDW prime, Bee, Starscream, and Thundercracker and all 5 are great. I currently have SG Prime, Skywarp, Drift, and Megatron paid for in my Stack, and am awaiting the Devastator. I really love the kits.

I truly think they will do MTMTE and LL Rodimi, and I will get both