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Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:39 am

Does anyone here own a G1 Bruticus? I was contemplating a purchase of one, to go along side the newer FOC one.

Can anyone comment on the awesomeness, or non-awesomeness of it?

Thanks

gbm

Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:46 am

G1 Bruticus will always be awesome for me simply for the nostalgia value. I grew up with these guys. However, if G1 isn't your cup of tea, you may be dissapointed. Here's my 2 cents: FoC much more complex transformation, G1 has about 4 steps for each limb. Size wise G1 stands from his feet to head at 22cm, FoC come in at 29cm. Due to the size of FoC members being larger, G1 may seem a bit anemic. However, proportion wise, due to G1 onslaught being a voyager'ish size figure, his limbs don't appear as large as FOC.

Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:49 am

Breakdown 2099 wrote:G1 Bruticus will always be awesome for me simply for the nostalgia value. I grew up with these guys. However, if G1 isn't your cup of tea, you may be dissapointed. Here's my 2 cents: FoC much more complex transformation, G1 has about 4 steps for each limb. Size wise G1 stands from his feet to head at 22cm, FoC come in at 29cm. Due to the size of FoC members being larger, G1 may seem a bit anemic. However, proportion wise, due to G1 onslaught being a voyager'ish size figure, his limbs don't appear as large as FOC.

hmmmm, makes sense.

Well, I'm a child of the 80s (born '75), so this is right up my alley. Thought it would look bada** standing next to the FOC one.

Found a great price on all 5 G1's....only $120. (with shipping)

I think I'll go for it.

Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:26 pm

I don't have a complete G1 Bruticus (just Onslaught, unfortunately) but I do have RID Ruination (plus a knockoff in RID cartoon accurate colors). It's one of the better Scramble City type combiners, IMO, I hope you like yours when you get it.

News Credits: 5 · Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:04 pm

I always liked the Combaticons over the other combiners because of the variety of vehicles. The Protectobots had some variety too but I could never get my head around a motorcycle being the same size as a helicopter (don't make me compare a jeep to a space shuttle). Ahem. I say go for it, Onslaught is pretty much my favourite Decepticon so I'm biased but they're a cool set.

Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:34 pm

I have him, plus Superion and Defensor to compare him to. Of the three, he's by far my favorite combiner.
The leader has a good transformation, looks plausibly good as a truck and has a useful base mode.
The Bruticus head and kibble looks powerful and the limbs have decent robot modes and character-wise, they're the best combiner team.
Superion always felt too boring theme-wise with five planes and looks skinny, and while Defensor is well-proportioned, his alt modes aren't as fun.
If you like the FOC Bruticus and want to make him even more awesome, definitely consider to give him a little family.
Heck, you might want to get the Energon Combaticons (and 3rd party upgrade) and Power Core Bombshock & Combaticons to go along with him. And maybe Universe Onslaught.

Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:53 pm

So I was about to spring for an brand new Encore version....but from what I read, even a slightly used G1 version is far superior to a mint Encore one.

Truth to this?

Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:29 pm

gbm wrote:So I was about to spring for an brand new Encore version....but from what I read, even a slightly used G1 version is far superior to a mint Encore one.

Truth to this?

Quality wise probably. I heard the reissues have cheaper plastic. You could go with G2 too, if you can stand the colors. I need to get myself a G2 one.

News Credits: 2 · Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:23 am

I own the Encore version and even though I don't have a basis for comparison it is a great G1 combiner. To own him is a definite case of nostalgia being born in '77. The Encore release is a bit pricey so if you can find him at a good price new or used you won't be dissapointed.

Should you decide to pick him up try to get your hands on WST Shockwave (Military Operations Commander) to add to Bruticus...pretty freakin' cool dude! ;)^

News Credits: 7 · Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:37 am

G1 Bruticus is an excellent toy, if you enjoy G1. Solid individual alt modes for all the members and good robot modes for 4 out of the five members (Swindle isn't that good, but he's earned his pass by being a cool character). Onslaught is excellent in all modes (although I've always been a bit disappointed by his lack of articulation in alt mode: he can't turn... But then again, nor can Motormaster, with whom the problem is even more jarring).
I also especially like Vortex (interesting transformation) and Brawl (simple transformation, but very solid lifelike alt mode).
Given a choice of Superion, Defensor, Menasor and Bruticus, I'd choose Bruticus (although adding Computron to that lineup would make my choice more difficult, to be honest).

Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:52 am

Nemesis Destron wrote:I own the Encore version and even though I don't have a basis for comparison it is a great G1 combiner. To own him is a definite case of nostalgia being born in '77. The Encore release is a bit pricey so if you can find him at a good price new or used you won't be dissapointed.

Should you decide to pick him up try to get your hands on WST Shockwave (Military Operations Commander) to add to Bruticus...pretty freakin' cool dude!

Prices were decent...

I found a G1 for $125 (shipping included), and an Encore for $100.

not bad I thought.

Which is why I asked about overall quality for each. Looks like I'll go with the g1.

News Credits: 60 · Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:52 am

Quality wise, in the Encore (okay I also own one too) the most glaring mold degradation is Onslaught. The rest aren't too bad. And his (Bruticus') shoulders don't lock in place unlike the earlier 80's releases.

But still worth purchasing if you don't own one.

Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:38 am

For an extra $25, go with the G1 version.

News Credits: 241 · Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:53 am

fenrir72 wrote:Quality wise, in the Encore (okay I also own one too) the most glaring mold degradation is Onslaught. The rest aren't too bad. And his (Bruticus') shoulders don't lock in place unlike the earlier 80's releases.

But still worth purchasing if you don't own one.

So basically put, replacing Encore Onslaught with a vintage one is the way to go.

Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:50 pm

SWEET F-ING JESUS!!!!

The original G1 Bruticus I bought for $125 WITH SHIPPING off of someone on EBAY just arrived and it is NEAR MINT!

I have never seen a G1 figure purchased on EBAY be THIS near perfect, ...and in this case, 5 figures!

Gosh, I love when Ebay gamblin' works out in your favor.

(my next figure will prob fall apart as I open it) :lol:

Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:49 am

gbm wrote:(my next figure will prob fall apart as I open it)

Good work on Bruticus. As for falling apart, just ask anybody who owns Hasbro MP Rodimus. Mine just joined the shoulders broken off club :BOOM:

Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:24 pm

gbm wrote:SWEET F-ING JESUS!!!!

The original G1 Bruticus I bought for $125 WITH SHIPPING off of someone on EBAY just arrived and it is NEAR MINT!

I have never seen a G1 figure purchased on EBAY be THIS near perfect, ...and in this case, 5 figures!

Gosh, I love when Ebay gamblin' works out in your favor.

(my next figure will prob fall apart as I open it)

I love that feeling. I got a Mindwipe a bunch of years back that was pristine and I kid you not, it almost brought a tear to my eye. It was like it was just produced and I was twelve again.

News Credits: 60 · Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:44 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Quality wise, in the Encore (okay I also own one too) the most glaring mold degradation is Onslaught. The rest aren't too bad. And his (Bruticus') shoulders don't lock in place unlike the earlier 80's releases.

But still worth purchasing if you don't own one.

So basically put, replacing Encore Onslaught with a vintage one is the way to go.

Exactly milady. Though this mold is said to use the Baldigus/Ruination version, could anyone confirm whether or not the Baldigus/Ruination "Onslaught" can lock his shoulder in place?

@gbm

Good for you mein freund! Articulation aside, there's something about G1 figs that you won't feel with the current. :APPLAUSE:

News Credits: 10 · Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:57 pm

fenrir72 wrote:Though this mold is said to use the Baldigus/Ruination version, could anyone confirm whether or not the Baldigus/Ruination "Onslaught" can lock his shoulder in place?

I've got Ruination packed away somewhere, and even though it has been a while, I don't remember him having locking shoulders... Could be wrong...

News Credits: 60 · Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:05 pm

Arctorro wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Though this mold is said to use the Baldigus/Ruination version, could anyone confirm whether or not the Baldigus/Ruination "Onslaught" can lock his shoulder in place?

I've got Ruination packed away somewhere, and even though it has been a while, I don't remember him having locking shoulders... Could be wrong...

When you transform Onslaught into the torso for Bruticus, like Golion, you twist the arms(truck cab) backwards. The notches on the joints clicks a bit to prevent them from flopping down. Once you connect the "arm" components and swing them up, Onslaught's pseudo shoulders shouldn't swing up at the same time(that's for the 1985 version). In the Encore, the arms don't lock up so when you swing the arms (Vortex and Blast off), Onslaught's arms/Bruticus' shoulders also swing up.

As JZGR mentioned that this was obviously from the Baldigus/Ruination mold( the weapon combine and shield/ramp merging back pack feature), I'd like to know from your end if this is also the case for Ruination/Baldigus.

News Credits: 10 · Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:42 pm

fenrir72 wrote:
Arctorro wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Though this mold is said to use the Baldigus/Ruination version, could anyone confirm whether or not the Baldigus/Ruination "Onslaught" can lock his shoulder in place?

I've got Ruination packed away somewhere, and even though it has been a while, I don't remember him having locking shoulders... Could be wrong...

When you transform Onslaught into the torso for Bruticus, like Golion, you twist the arms(truck cab) backwards. The notches on the joints clicks a bit to prevent them from flopping down. Once you connect the "arm" components and swing them up, Onslaught's pseudo shoulders shouldn't swing up at the same time(that's for the 1985 version). In the Encore, the arms don't lock up so when you swing the arms (Vortex and Blast off), Onslaught's arms/Bruticus' shoulders also swing up.

As JZGR mentioned that this was obviously from the Baldigus/Ruination mold( the weapon combine and shield/ramp merging back pack feature), I'd like to know from your end if this is also the case for Ruination/Baldigus.

Ok, I did a bit of digging and found Ruination, his shoulders don't have notches and don't lock into place. Transforming him reminded me of how annoying it was to move Ruinations arms because of this.

News Credits: 60 · Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:19 pm

A case of improving the mold when in reality actually degrading it. Thanks Arctorro.

News Credits: 10 · Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:40 pm

fenrir72 wrote::lol:
A case of improving the mold when in reality actually degrading it.

Oh so true! He'd be soooo much more fun to play with if they'd kept G1 Onslaughts shoulders. Never having owned the original I never knew Ruination wasn't quite so good.