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News Credits: 2 · Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:58 pm

Oh man I just realized with the way Whirl looks I hate to see Tailgate. He was the main one I wanted in IDW style.

Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:02 pm

Mindmaster wrote:
RAcast wrote:I love how people are making decisions about it's "quality" and "size" when we haven't had it in hand or even SEEN IT next to anything well enough to compare it's size to yet.

This.

I mean, I could understand comments like "Hey, I think it looks good/bad because x, y, and z. And I like/dislike that it looks like IDW/G1 Whirl instead of ___ Whirl. Also I'm concerned about the weirdness with the shoulder struts, but I would assume that's some manner of mistransformation."

Comments like that? I totally get. But it's just silly to comment on the "quality" of a thing you know nothing about, unless you're from the future and have a production sample on hand. :lol:

News Credits: 2 · Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:02 pm

phase wrote:
The Variable wrote:Slightly disappointed that they weren't using the IDW treatment for Whirl's design. I really like the VTOL mode he has there. But a Voyager scale update to the original toy is still full of awesome.

sixshot20 wrote:Man bit of a letdown I thought he was going to be like the MTMTE Whirl . He still looks nice as an updated G1 Whirl though.

The reason they couldn't do MTMTE Whirl is the fact that not only his skinny, curved legs would be hard to articulate, he'd be as top-heavy as Mega-class Cheetor, if not more-so. They could've done his pre-MTMTE design, though.

They could have easily put a new head and paint on the old generations springer and had MtMtE Whirl done really nice.

News Credits: 251 · Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:05 pm

RAcast wrote:....unless you're from the future and have a production sample on hand.

...Yeah, haha, totally. Not like no one here is from the future or anything! :lol:

News Credits: 7 · Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:27 pm

I'm thinking Whirl's legs can be reconfigured into a digitrade setup, like so:

whirllegs.jpg

News Credits: 251 · Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:29 pm

Noideaforaname wrote:I'm thinking Whirl's legs can be reconfigured into a digitrade setup, like so:
whirllegs.jpg

Chicken legs ala Movie Starscream? Interesting. Did he have his legs like that in any media? I haven't read any of the comics, sadly. :-(

News Credits: 1 · Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:30 pm

So far, Whirl is a pass. I still like the Whirl repaint of Blackout with the custom Whirl head. What they really need to make is a decent Roadbuster for once. Like All Hail Megatron big.

Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:33 pm

who the hell transforms these things? i hope they know they lose customers because it makes the toy look like crap, and if i did not know it was mistransformed i would ate it. but since i know its mis transformed i can expect it to look a lot better when properly transformed. still looking forward to this toy. :grin:

Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:48 pm

I'm sure that, once transformed properly, that Whirl will be sweet. I'm liking most of what I see of it already. It triggers a G1 feeling, and I'm not sure why exactly, but it's the only one out of all the Generations unveils that I actually want to own. The rest are take it or leave it (reasons varying from crappy figure to already owning that mold/character) The Beast wars figures look the best so far, but I don't collect Transformers with organic beast modes.

Oh, and Trailbreak is awesome, so Hoist is as well.

I am no longer interested in Metroplex. Not until I can first own a Unicron that trumps it in size.

News Credits: 7 · Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:59 pm

Mindmaster wrote:Chicken legs ala Movie Starscream? Interesting. Did he have his legs like that in any media? I haven't read any of the comics, sadly.

Yep, in the current MtMtE series he's got chicken legs, as well as a few other odd features.

mtmteWhirl.jpg

News Credits: 8 · Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:00 pm

Well, I for one really like him, and his GI Apache (Cobra?... not the villans, the helicopter) alt mode, but the shoulders worry me, and there's absolutely no attempt to hide rbot parts here the engine pods, and would itg have killed someone to put some kind of folding cover over his upper thighs to hid his waist joint in helicopter mode? Energon Bulkhead did it... Even something like Animated Megatron's leg covers would've been a little more effective than him running around with his thighs showing. And I do hope there's a better placve to mount those guns.

But then, I love that Whirl co,mes with FOUR different weapons.

Now, here's hoping for a Rotorstorm repaint!!

News Credits: 251 · Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:01 pm

Noideaforaname wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Chicken legs ala Movie Starscream? Interesting. Did he have his legs like that in any media? I haven't read any of the comics, sadly.

Yep, in the current MtMtE series he's got chicken legs, as well as a few other odd features.
mtmteWhirl.jpg

Ah, gotcha. Thanks!

It would be interesting if his legs are capable of doing that.

Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:06 pm

Well.... for all of you G1 only people, there's your damn G1. :lol:

Like others I was looking forward to an IDW Whirl. I do think he looks pretty good though. But he does look kinda outdated. I suppose he's too G1.

News Credits: 462 · Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:16 pm

Never owned any Whirl toy, so I do find this interesting.

News Credits: 2 · Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:20 pm

The whole tail section seems like a pretty big piece of kibble. I'm trying to see if it's just a case of mistransformation but I can't see any panels or anything.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:28 am

Bought...On...Sight!

I'm glad they went this direction with him. I was so horribly disappointed with the repaint treatment they gave the combiner Wreckers and honestly, attempting to make the toys in exactly the same style as their MTMTE and RID comic counterparts would frustrate the toy designers and be a discredit to the comic artists when the finished product rolled out. This, going back to the basics of G1 designs, is going to make a LOT of collectors very happy. This is what the Classics/Generations line is all about anyways. Paying tribute to the originals but with some update to the design/articulation and I think this works splendidly. Those of you bitching about his appearance obviously don't seem to care that the "Generations" label is boldly displayed at the top of the packaging. Go back to your Mega-Zords if you want something totally unrelated to the origins of this franchise.

Now bring on Road Buster and give us Twin Twist and Top Spin done RIGHT because the combiner versions of all those figures were just insulting.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:50 am

This is certainly a surprise. I was totally expecting to see the designs from the MTMTE comics, just like Springer.

Despite the mistransformation, it looks like it could look pretty good. I just hope that shortened tail in alt mode is also a mistransformation.

Not a fan of the G1 colors, to be honest.

If I can get my hands on the more affordable Hasbro version, as opposed to the Takara versions my hobby store tends to bring in, this thing is getting repainted in olive drab for an original character custom.

News Credits: 2 · Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:05 am

I really like the look of Whirl. There is at least some minor mistransformation happening on the display but basically, it looks like it is very much hearkening back to the G1 toy design. I'm very curious about the transformation for the toy.

News Credits: 656 · Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:10 am

Nice to see it in color, hopefully his eye gets painted in, but if not, that's an easy fix.

News Credits: 5749 · Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:13 am

The GeeWunner in me has a major "toy boner" for this figure!

News Credits: 1082 · Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:22 am

Well he does appear to possibly have trigger created propeller spinning in alt mode, that's important right?

I'll buy it and may end up liking it. The thing about a Rotorstorm reprint could be cool, but with the club doing MW Sandstorm using the DOTM Skyhammer mold, I'd rather see the club also tackle Rotorstorm and give him a new head. It would be a nice circular relationship similar to how the Rotorstorm mold was originally reprinted into MW Sandstorm.

Anyway, this makes all of my 3 rd party Whirl kits now useless.

News Credits: 656 · Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:39 am

tigertracks 24 wrote:
Anyway, this makes all of my 3 rd party Whirl kits now useless.

Oh man, that's a good call. How many of those are there? Eight?

News Credits: 12 · Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:22 am

For me, this is one of the most exciting reveals this year. G1 Whirl was one of my favorites, and one of the few larger figures to survive my childhood. I've been trying to buy the "Classic" version of every one of my remaining childhood TFs, and Whirl is one of the holes I have left to fill. (heh heh)

The fact that he resembles the original so much is just icing on the cake! I'm super excited for this figure.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:56 am

This has just re-affirmed not getting FOC repaints. While there are things that could be better obviously, I feel this mold is as good as it's going to get for the forseable future. He can stand by Generations Springer, Universe Roadbuster, and Classics Ultra Magnus.

News Credits: 11 · Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:06 pm

I'm all over this. After the Botcon news I figured he would be more MTMTE, but I'm actually happy he's not. The current comic design is a little too weird for me. I love the G1-inspired look. Reminds me of Energon Bulkhead, which is actually a good thing to me. I'm sure he's a bit mistransformed, but I definitely like what I see.