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Anyone remember these?

Nope, 'cause I started late on Animated and didn't follow this site back then xP

Funny that you posted that Bee-ship one. I just saw it in a Japanese toy store the other day. Obviously not Hasbro though.

Erailea wrote:Nope, 'cause I started late on Animated and didn't follow this site back then xP

Funny that you posted that Bee-ship one. I just saw it in a Japanese toy store the other day. Obviously not Hasbro though.

The point is that Hasbro promised years ago that they would try to get these out eventually, and now they're promising us the same about the First Editions. This is promise that they did not keep before. Why should we believe them now?

Sabrblade wrote:

Erailea wrote:Nope, 'cause I started late on Animated and didn't follow this site back then xP

Funny that you posted that Bee-ship one. I just saw it in a Japanese toy store the other day. Obviously not Hasbro though.

The point is that Hasbro promised years ago that they would try to get these out eventually, and now they're promising us the same about the First Editions. This is promise that they did not keep before. Why should we believe them now?

Well that was at the end of Animated wasn't it? Prime is just starting so there's a big window ahead for Prime figures.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Erailea wrote:Nope, 'cause I started late on Animated and didn't follow this site back then xP

Funny that you posted that Bee-ship one. I just saw it in a Japanese toy store the other day. Obviously not Hasbro though.

The point is that Hasbro promised years ago that they would try to get these out eventually, and now they're promising us the same about the First Editions. This is promise that they did not keep before. Why should we believe them now?

Well that was at the end of Animated wasn't it? Prime is just starting so there's a big window ahead for Prime figures.

There are two Prime toylines. First Edition and Robots in Disguise. First Edition never made it past the Wave 1 Deluxes, so its missing figures are just like the missing final Animated figures. And the final DOTM toys are still missing too. And the final Reveal the Shield toys are missing, along with only a select few that were actually made being rejected by big retailers and so went to Market Six stores, which many still consider as being "missing" as well. That makes THREE toylines that got shafted in their final waves, and every promise Hasbro has made about trying to release them later has either been broken or skewed. Prime First Edition doesn't look to be any different, as its just as desired by the fandom as those other canceled figures were.

That doesn't explain ****. WHY did this even happen?

Funny how all Hasbro has to do is release a statement and everybody is all honky dory. Dont actions speak louder then words ??? I see words here. Lets see some action.

I really did want that Gold Grimlock. So beautifull.

I'm glad they answered us so quickly and I understand where they're coming from but I'm curious why they wouldn't release them in the U.S in the first place. Is it because the euro is still worth more than the american dollar and they would make more profit selling them there or just a derpy thing?

omega666 wrote:That doesn't explain ****. WHY did this even happen?

Because the major reatailers won't carry lines aimed at us collectors. Lately it seems like they won't bother with a non-movie line as well. At least that's what i'm noticing around my area anyways.

Rated X wrote:Funny how all Hasbro has to do is release a statement and everybody is all honky dory. Dont actions speak louder then words ??? I see words here. Lets see some action.

AGREED!

Sabrblade wrote:

Erailea wrote:Nope, 'cause I started late on Animated and didn't follow this site back then xP

Funny that you posted that Bee-ship one. I just saw it in a Japanese toy store the other day. Obviously not Hasbro though.

The point is that Hasbro promised years ago that they would try to get these out eventually, and now they're promising us the same about the First Editions. This is promise that they did not keep before. Why should we believe them now?

Oh I got your point. I just said I didn't remember it because I'd never heard of their supposed release dates in the first place.

And as I said in my first post, I'll believe Hasbro when they actually act on their words. Big companies are notorious for lying just to settle people down.

Sabrblade wrote:

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Erailea wrote:Nope, 'cause I started late on Animated and didn't follow this site back then xP

Funny that you posted that Bee-ship one. I just saw it in a Japanese toy store the other day. Obviously not Hasbro though.

The point is that Hasbro promised years ago that they would try to get these out eventually, and now they're promising us the same about the First Editions. This is promise that they did not keep before. Why should we believe them now?

Well that was at the end of Animated wasn't it? Prime is just starting so there's a big window ahead for Prime figures.

There are two Prime toylines. First Edition and Robots in Disguise. First Edition never made it past the Wave 1 Deluxes, so its missing figures are just like the missing final Animated figures. And the final DOTM toys are still missing too. And the final Reveal the Shield toys are missing, along with only a select few that were actually made being rejected by big retailers and so went to Market Six stores, which many still consider as being "missing" as well. That makes THREE toylines that got shafted in their final waves, and every promise Hasbro has made about trying to release them later has either been broken or skewed. Prime First Edition doesn't look to be any different, as its just as desired by the fandom as those other canceled figures were.

They could easily release the FE in future waves of the Prime toyline since they are Prime figures.

So Hasbro take 1 step in the right direction by addressing the fans.

After the 100 backsteps in the past, by my count, this still puts them 99 steps behind.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Erailea wrote:Nope, 'cause I started late on Animated and didn't follow this site back then xP

Funny that you posted that Bee-ship one. I just saw it in a Japanese toy store the other day. Obviously not Hasbro though.

The point is that Hasbro promised years ago that they would try to get these out eventually, and now they're promising us the same about the First Editions. This is promise that they did not keep before. Why should we believe them now?

Well that was at the end of Animated wasn't it? Prime is just starting so there's a big window ahead for Prime figures.

There are two Prime toylines. First Edition and Robots in Disguise. First Edition never made it past the Wave 1 Deluxes, so its missing figures are just like the missing final Animated figures. And the final DOTM toys are still missing too. And the final Reveal the Shield toys are missing, along with only a select few that were actually made being rejected by big retailers and so went to Market Six stores, which many still consider as being "missing" as well. That makes THREE toylines that got shafted in their final waves, and every promise Hasbro has made about trying to release them later has either been broken or skewed. Prime First Edition doesn't look to be any different, as its just as desired by the fandom as those other canceled figures were.

They could easily release the FE in future waves of the Prime toyline since they are Prime figures.

They could, yes, but that doesn't men they will.

There was a suggestion that Hasbro could release the remaining Animated figures in the Generations line, but they didn't.

And, the missing Reveal the Shield figures also could have been released in the Market Six stores with the few that did show up in those places, but they weren't either.

As I said, I'll believe it when the FE figures actually show up in stores.

Yeah, this is pretty much what they said about the last RTS wave and Windcharger. Still haven't seen those outside of TJ Maxx. I'll be happy when I see it happen.

I find it hilarious that hasbro never intended to release TFPrime FE in the U.S. BBTS and those other sites had preorders ready to go which they mentioned, but never explained why TRU had item numbers for the voyagers to begin with. Remember the item number 757271? TRU was expecting them and they had full descriptions with this item number for the voyagers...

Just saying...

DISCHARGE wrote:

funeralthirst7 wrote:What would make them not produce these toys for America?

That was my thought. Kind of strange.

Supply and Demand. They cut the line short knowing that people would like the figures, then they make it available later once they KNOW they have everyone hooked.

I spent a good chunk of change to get all the Hasbro FE's except for Bulkhead. It was a waste of money IMO, because while decent looking on their own, as soon as I actually viewed them side by side with my Takara versions (I bought ALL of the Takara FE's, and they're still for sale/fulfilling more preorders from many that sold out ), there was no comparison.

The Hasbro FE's just aren't worth it. I get trying to save money by not importing, but in this situation, things were reversed. It was more trouble and more costly in most cases to get the domestic releases than it was to get the much better (IMO) Japanese versions.

If I start finding the same pattern in the RID lines once the Takara ones start coming into my POL on BBTS, I'll be canceling my orders for the Hasbro versions.

If Hasbro wants to alienate the collectors by pulling crap like this constantly while their oversees counterpart, which caters almost exclusively to collectors, always seems to have higher production numbers (or at least higher availability due to differing prices/market demand), then that's where we're headed.

If I'm buying a toy for a child on Christmas, I guess cheaper is better and looks aren't that important as long as I got one, it will make the child happy. But as a collector who wants display pieces, I gotta go with Takara these days.

U.S......what about the rest of the world Hasbro? Please!!!

Too many conspiracy theories, not enough logic

Terrorcon cliffy and the vehicon didnt get domestic release in fe as far as im aware. The rest did, i know this because i own them. They werent hard to buy either. If you want them, Theyre coming out via takara too. As for the whole 'they wont release fe figures in rid' argument..... Seriously?????? Its the same show!!!!!! why on earth wouldnt they???? The whole 'they did this to animated' thing is crap too. They killed the line, they saw its popularity, they wanted a united continuity so they killed it. Generations should do animated, but so far it doesnt. And the unreleased figures were REPAINTS! Fine we never got deluxe wingblade prime, but tbh it wudda sucked, the takara version was better. These fe figs were figures made for generations and somewhere along the line they decided to switch it to a kiddie friendly line. Its not like fe figures are solid gold a-grade bits of engineering. Theyre good but nobody should be obsessing over this, if we demand it, they could see the light of day in later waves, which are probably decided months in advance

What about Europe?

This may be a case of Hasbro not wanting to pay some sort of licensing or distribution fee to Takara for the use of their FE molds in addition to what they'll be paying for the rest of the line.

I'll wait patiently to see if this really happens.

Sabrblade wrote:

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Erailea wrote:Nope, 'cause I started late on Animated and didn't follow this site back then xP

Funny that you posted that Bee-ship one. I just saw it in a Japanese toy store the other day. Obviously not Hasbro though.

The point is that Hasbro promised years ago that they would try to get these out eventually, and now they're promising us the same about the First Editions. This is promise that they did not keep before. Why should we believe them now?

Well that was at the end of Animated wasn't it? Prime is just starting so there's a big window ahead for Prime figures.

There are two Prime toylines. First Edition and Robots in Disguise. First Edition never made it past the Wave 1 Deluxes, so its missing figures are just like the missing final Animated figures. And the final DOTM toys are still missing too. And the final Reveal the Shield toys are missing, along with only a select few that were actually made being rejected by big retailers and so went to Market Six stores, which many still consider as being "missing" as well. That makes THREE toylines that got shafted in their final waves, and every promise Hasbro has made about trying to release them later has either been broken or skewed. Prime First Edition doesn't look to be any different, as its just as desired by the fandom as those other canceled figures were.

They could easily release the FE in future waves of the Prime toyline since they are Prime figures.

They could, yes, but that doesn't men they will.

There was a suggestion that Hasbro could release the remaining Animated figures in the Generations line, but they didn't.

And, the missing Reveal the Shield figures also could have been released in the Market Six stores with the few that did show up in those places, but they weren't either.

As I said, I'll believe it when the FE figures actually show up in stores.

We all know the story of what happened with animated and RTS, and how BS it was (trust me, I was pissed. You know how long it took me to get lugnut?) But that is no indication that it will happened here. Its entierly possible that the F.E. will be released in RID later on down the road. Just look up what happened with "Air Attack" Optimus Primal and Megatron Megabolt back in '01 (Oddly enough, also released durring the RID line...)