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Mr. Lamb conceded that the brand had gotten a little off track over the years. “As new designers and engineers continued to work on this brand, it got more complicated," he said. Hasbro will continue to make complex Transformers for adult fans who have collected the toys since their inception 30 years ago. But the new design is intended to re-engage parents and children, who found the transformations too challenging.
Well excuse the rest of humanity for not be gifted child geniuses, your majesty. We simpletons are truly humbled to be standing in the grace of your wondrous superior presence. We are not worthy of such a rare and exclusive honor.Deathscythetransform wrote:why? because I enjoy complex transformations, of because I find it ludicrous that someone took half an hour to transform a simplistic toy such as sideburn?? seriously, the RID line was so simlistic it was stupid.
the only transformer I had few difficulties was MP 05 Masterpiece Magatron... because he is such a poopy figure he was constantly falling apart while I was converting him!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
MightyMagnus78 wrote:Nothing Hasbro does surprises me anymore, their ineptitude is legendary!
Burn wrote:Shadowstream wrote:It's quite clear they dun dropped the ball, but did they have to drop it so far and so hard?
It's FunPub. It's their specialty.
A big factor in this is that you're not an amateur (or at least I presume you aren't). You've likely had experience with lots of TFs and would have gotten used to the more challenging levels of difficulty to not find them as challenging as one with less experience would.Shadowstream wrote:Dragging this a bit off topic, but I agree with Deathscythetransform on how I don't think the RID toys are that difficult to transform. I admit Sideburn's parts end up in odd places and the clearance for them is a bit weird, but it's hardly rocket science. Give me a Sideburn that hasn't fallen apart from the ravages of time and hard playing and I could get it done in about a minute or so.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
More like they're just grouping everything under one generic label of packaging, with each line's individual logo included somewhere on the box to let us know which line they belong to.Hero Alpha wrote:"The move to reduce the complexity of the toys extends to the branding, too. The property often has multiple toy lines on sale, reflecting various TV, movie and classic versions of the characters, leading to confusion in the toy aisle. Now, all Transformers toys will come under a single, bold logo."
Quote from the article here. It does seem like they are getting rid of the generations line and others like a few people mentioned here.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:A big factor in this is that you're not an amateur (or at least I presume you aren't). You've likely had experience with lots of TFs and would have gotten used to the more challenging levels of difficulty to not find them as challenging as one with less experience would.Shadowstream wrote:Dragging this a bit off topic, but I agree with Deathscythetransform on how I don't think the RID toys are that difficult to transform. I admit Sideburn's parts end up in odd places and the clearance for them is a bit weird, but it's hardly rocket science. Give me a Sideburn that hasn't fallen apart from the ravages of time and hard playing and I could get it done in about a minute or so.
While transforming Transformers is fun, taking more than 5 minutes to do so is not fun.
The key thing that Hasbro is trying to go for with the new simplicity is to give kids toys that they can transform faster.
Remember when playing with the toys as a child and trying to have a battle scene with lots of TFs? You and your friends would always have to pause the game to transform each toy each time that the battle or play pattern called for any of the toys to be transformed. You and you're friends were obligated to wait for the transformations to be done before they could resume shooting at each other. And that isn't fun.
With these new toys, however, you can transform them fast enough to match the "TSCHE-CHU-CHU-CHU-TSCHE!" noise that we liked to make as kids, instead of having to go "TSCHE....................CHU.................CHU.......................just a sec...................CHU......................almost got it........................darn it, come on...........................TSCHE!"
I'm fine with the toys being simpler as long as A) both modes look at least half-decent, and B) the robot modes have at least half-decent articulation.
The gimmick is "Transforming at the speed of play!"
MightyMagnus78 wrote:Nothing Hasbro does surprises me anymore, their ineptitude is legendary!
Burn wrote:Shadowstream wrote:It's quite clear they dun dropped the ball, but did they have to drop it so far and so hard?
It's FunPub. It's their specialty.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Transformation races are not unheard of.Hammer wrote:Bragging about how fast you can transform a toy on the internet?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Transformation races are not unheard of.Hammer wrote:Bragging about how fast you can transform a toy on the internet?
Burn wrote:thedistinctroom wrote:Simplified Transformers are for simpletons.
So making kids toys easier for kids makes the kids stupid?
While simultaneously still creating more complex toys for older people?
hmmmm....
RhA wrote:Marcdachamp wrote: When I bought Sideburn from RiD I was 16. You know how long it took me to transform him the first time? About a half an hour. That's ludicrous, and kids aren't going to want to put up with that.
I'm not advocating "brickformers", but something clearly had to be done, and I'm glad Hasbro sees that.
I had a similar experience with ol' Sideburn. The first time I tried to transform him, I was REALLY hung over. I was so wasted, I nearly puked.thedistinctroom wrote:Simplified Transformers are for simpletons. This is the most disturbing TF news I've read in a while.
Perhaps this is the age of extinction for the brand.
He writes, while having Trypticon for a sig.
Shadowstream wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Remember when playing with the toys as a child and trying to have a battle scene with lots of TFs? You and your friends would always have to pause the game to transform each toy each time that the battle or play pattern called for any of the toys to be transformed.
You speak as if all kids who grew up with TFs had this issue. Some of us didn't have friends who even liked Transformers, or moreso didn't have friends, period
CommanderHazar wrote:Shadowstream wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Remember when playing with the toys as a child and trying to have a battle scene with lots of TFs? You and your friends would always have to pause the game to transform each toy each time that the battle or play pattern called for any of the toys to be transformed.
You speak as if all kids who grew up with TFs had this issue. Some of us didn't have friends who even liked Transformers, or moreso didn't have friends, period
Very true. I didn't have friends as a kid. I still don't. For me, playing by myself, transforming them was the best part. The more complex, the better.
And I agree with the "Simplified Transformers are for simpletons" remark. Our culture and society is getting ever more dumbed down. Perhaps challenging people, kids included, is the way to go, as opposed to the simplified instant gratification culture we have today.
I don't care if people are offended by this. It is how I see it. This is another step towards Transformers mediocrity. I'd rather see Transformers fade away than continue down that road.
Va'al wrote:Cartoons will never make as much money as films, though. And that's what it's really about.
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