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by **#1 Signal Lancer fan** » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:30 pm

So I've been out of the loop on Transformers toys for a little while, but I saw this line in the store the other day and I was curious, is the toyline based on any current media (a new game, comic, etc.) or is it just a standalone toyline inspired by War for Cyberton?

News Credits: 457 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:38 pm

#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:So I've been out of the loop on Transformers toys for a little while, but I saw this line in the store the other day and I was curious, is the toyline based on any current media (a new game, comic, etc.) or is it just a standalone toyline inspired by War for Cyberton?

It's its own new thing, telling its own story about the last day before the Ark launched off of Cybertron, taking its main inspiration from the first episode of the G1 cartoon, in which the characters had Cybertronian altmodes but retained the same robot modes that they would continue to have on Earth. The second line of the trilogy, Earthrise, will likewise tell its own story about the Ark's journey through space.

The new IDW comics have used designs based on the Siege toyline, but are mostly telling their own pre-war story. Meanwhile, a new Netflix series is being created for the War for Cybertron Trilogy toylines, with Season 1 based on the Siege line, while Season 2 will be based on the Earthrise line.

Unhelpful to these matters is how this Trilogy is titled "War for Cybertron", but is otherwise completely unrelated to the old 2010 video game of the same name.

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:28 pm

I think it's cool when people complain about the availability of free information, especially from those who take time to volunteer it for them.

I've got my eye on you!

News Credits: 42 · by **TF-fan kev777** » Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:47 pm

Counterpunch wrote:I think it's cool when people complain about the availability of free information, especially from those who take time to volunteer it for them.

I've got my eye on you!

Its the internet, I'm pretty sure complaining rounds out the top 3 reasons the internet exists (along with cat videos and porn)

News Credits: 3 · by **SGMLordMirage** » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:21 pm

News Credits: 4845 · by **william-james88** » Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:17 pm

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:I think it's cool when people complain about the availability of free information, especially from those who take time to volunteer it for them.

I've got my eye on you!

Its the internet, I'm pretty sure complaining rounds out the top 3 reasons the internet exists (along with cat videos and porn)

Cat videos have recently been replaced by baby yoda memes.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:39 pm

Ultra Markus wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:Did anybody notice jetmode has a face :lol
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I did, and it is quite hilarious. I love teeth on a jet like this.

I'm super glad I didn't take many of the first Apeface impressions to heart, he is really fun. Still enjoying just swinging him from mode to mode

Reminds me of those WW2 planes with the shark paint job

Another reason for me to enjoy Apeface. I love having him with his little mini-me too. The whole package is awesome

by **#1 Signal Lancer fan** » Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:42 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Meanwhile, a new Netflix series is being created for the War for Cybertron Trilogy toylines, with Season 1 based on the Siege line, while Season 2 will be based on the Earthrise line.

Whoa, this is the first I've heard of that, that's exciting news

by **CrillanK** » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:47 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:So I've been out of the loop on Transformers toys for a little while, but I saw this line in the store the other day and I was curious, is the toyline based on any current media (a new game, comic, etc.) or is it just a standalone toyline inspired by War for Cyberton?

It's its own new thing, telling its own story about the last day before the Ark launched off of Cybertron, taking its main inspiration from the first episode of the G1 cartoon, in which the characters had Cybertronian altmodes but retained the same robot modes that they would continue to have on Earth. The second line of the trilogy, Earthrise, will likewise tell its own story about the Ark's journey through space.

The new IDW comics have used designs based on the Siege toyline, but are mostly telling their own pre-war story. Meanwhile, a new Netflix series is being created for the War for Cybertron Trilogy toylines, with Season 1 based on the Siege line, while Season 2 will be based on the Earthrise line.

Unhelpful to these matters is how this Trilogy is titled "War for Cybertron", but is otherwise completely unrelated to the old 2010 video game of the same name.

Do you have a source for the Netflix show? I'm interested for sure.

News Credits: 457 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:50 pm

#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Meanwhile, a new Netflix series is being created for the War for Cybertron Trilogy toylines, with Season 1 based on the Siege line, while Season 2 will be based on the Earthrise line.

Whoa, this is the first I've heard of that, that's exciting news

Here's the thread.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:50 pm

Since a lot of people are getting their Apefaces now, just a word of advice: be careful removing the shield from the jet. The long, clear plastic peg isn't very strong, I snapped mine right off removing the shield. There's just enough peg left to attach securely to the arm and it can still connect to the cockpit, but it's a bit of a bummer having the broken peg.

Emerje

News Credits: 4845 · by **william-james88** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:02 am

Emerje wrote:Since a lot of people are getting their Apefaces now, just a word of advice: be careful removing the shield from the jet. The long, clear plastic peg isn't very strong, I snapped mine right off removing the shield. There's just enough peg left to attach securely to the arm and it can still connect to the cockpit, but it's a bit of a bummer having the broken peg.

Emerje

I sent mine back to Amazon, I paid too much to have a broken toy. Not sure if we should make a breakage article about this. And I am really hoping Hasbro rereleases him with this fixed when Snap Dragon comes out.

News Credits: 42 · by **TF-fan kev777** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:25 am

Battle Squad is available from Amazon now. Should have mine in a couple of days sicne the Targets in my area are all overstocked with older micromasters. Now just waiting on the spy patrol 2 to show up.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZG ... UTF8&psc=1

News Credits: 23 · by **aronjlove** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:36 am

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Battle Squad is available from Amazon now. Should have mine in a couple of days sicne the Targets in my area are all overstocked with older micromasters. Now just waiting on the spy patrol 2 to show up.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZG ... UTF8&psc=1

How is the combined mode? I was disappointed with the Off Road and Race Car patrols. Bot mode was janky on the dude's with the huge shoulders and combined mode looked lame, to me. The Decepticon's Air Strike patrol rocks and I love the sword mode!

News Credits: 17 · by **AcademyofDrX** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:52 am

Stand on your head and look at the combined picture, that'll tell you.

(The combined mode is fine, they stick together well. The point of my snark is just that the "gun" mode is terrible.)

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:08 am

Pretty good. Not perfect, but pretty damn good.

News Credits: 23 · by **aronjlove** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:23 am

AcademyofDrX wrote:Stand on your head and look at the combined picture, that'll tell you.

(The combined mode is fine, they stick together well. The point of my snark is just that the "gun" mode is terrible.)

Lol, I see what you mean! I didn't realize they had a combined mode, which does look decent.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:59 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote:Since a lot of people are getting their Apefaces now, just a word of advice: be careful removing the shield from the jet. The long, clear plastic peg isn't very strong, I snapped mine right off removing the shield. There's just enough peg left to attach securely to the arm and it can still connect to the cockpit, but it's a bit of a bummer having the broken peg.

Emerje

I sent mine back to Amazon, I paid too much to have a broken toy. Not sure if we should make a breakage article about this. And I am really hoping Hasbro rereleases him with this fixed when Snap Dragon comes out.

Ugh, just found out Apeface isn't confirmed for an Earthrise re-release. That may put a wrench in my plans for waiting #-o

News Credits: 4845 · by **william-james88** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:25 pm

aronjlove wrote:How is the combined mode?

The combined vehicle mode is excellent, it's basically their default alt mode.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
I sent mine back to Amazon, I paid too much to have a broken toy. Not sure if we should make a breakage article about this. And I am really hoping Hasbro rereleases him with this fixed when Snap Dragon comes out.

Ugh, just found out Apeface isn't confirmed for an Earthrise re-release. That may put a wrench in my plans for waiting

Is it confirmed that he is NOT getting rereleased? Because, as I said, even snap dragon isn't a confirmed release yet and i'd assume they stick em together if Apeface was rereleased.

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:35 pm

william-james88 wrote:
aronjlove wrote:How is the combined mode?

The combined vehicle mode is excellent, it's basically their default alt mode.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
I sent mine back to Amazon, I paid too much to have a broken toy. Not sure if we should make a breakage article about this. And I am really hoping Hasbro rereleases him with this fixed when Snap Dragon comes out.

Ugh, just found out Apeface isn't confirmed for an Earthrise re-release. That may put a wrench in my plans for waiting

Is it confirmed that he is NOT getting rereleased? Because, as I said, even snap dragon isn't a confirmed release yet and i'd assume they stick em together if Apeface was rereleased.

It would be really cool if the Earthrise re-releases would drop the battle damage paint apps. That would give us a choice on if we want to get them first in Siege or just wait until Earthrise for a "cleaner" look. Bonus points if an Earthrise Apeface were redone with better, non-pearlescent white plastic and the shield peg problem fixed.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:02 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:It would be really cool if the Earthrise re-releases would drop the battle damage paint apps. That would give us a choice on if we want to get them first in Siege or just wait until Earthrise for a "cleaner" look. Bonus points if an Earthrise Apeface were redone with better, non-pearlescent white plastic and the shield peg problem fixed.

I'm afraid the plastic used is a structural necessity. Otherwise we'd see a lot more breaking other than that shield peg.

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:22 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:It would be really cool if the Earthrise re-releases would drop the battle damage paint apps. That would give us a choice on if we want to get them first in Siege or just wait until Earthrise for a "cleaner" look. Bonus points if an Earthrise Apeface were redone with better, non-pearlescent white plastic and the shield peg problem fixed.

I'm afraid the plastic used is a structural necessity. Otherwise we'd see a lot more breaking other than that shield peg.

Can you explain that a little more? Is there not a clean white version of that type of plastic in existence?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:52 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:It would be really cool if the Earthrise re-releases would drop the battle damage paint apps. That would give us a choice on if we want to get them first in Siege or just wait until Earthrise for a "cleaner" look. Bonus points if an Earthrise Apeface were redone with better, non-pearlescent white plastic and the shield peg problem fixed.

I'm afraid the plastic used is a structural necessity. Otherwise we'd see a lot more breaking other than that shield peg.

Can you explain that a little more? Is there not a clean white version of that type of plastic in existence?

That I couldn't tell you. I can tell you that even if the dye used is the same shade as the white ABS, other components of the plastic could change the final color. Hasbro is somewhat inept in matching shades between plastics and paint apps.

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:08 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:That I couldn't tell you. I can tell you that even if the dye used is the same shade as the white ABS, other components of the plastic could change the final color. Hasbro is somewhat inept in matching shades between plastics and paint apps.

Which is mind boggling, as Takara Tomy does a MUCH better job on paint and plastic matching, so you'd think they could teach Hasbro how to do it. Worse yet, these toys are all made at the same factories, so there's really nothing preventing them from getting it right. #-o

News Credits: 457 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:25 pm

william-james88 wrote:
aronjlove wrote:How is the combined mode?

The combined vehicle mode is excellent, it's basically their default alt mode.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
I sent mine back to Amazon, I paid too much to have a broken toy. Not sure if we should make a breakage article about this. And I am really hoping Hasbro rereleases him with this fixed when Snap Dragon comes out.

Ugh, just found out Apeface isn't confirmed for an Earthrise re-release. That may put a wrench in my plans for waiting

Is it confirmed that he is NOT getting rereleased? Because, as I said, even snap dragon isn't a confirmed release yet and i'd assume they stick em together if Apeface was rereleased.

Astrotrain is the only confirmed Siege rerelease for Earthrise. Any others have not even been mentioned as a possibility.