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News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:47 am

Chromia's cold dead eyes. X_X

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:13 am

I prefer the open hand Arcee, think it just looks better, esp when you shave that bit of plastic off on the bottom.

by **RiddlerJ** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:50 am

mooncake623 wrote:I prefer the open hand Arcee, think it just looks better, esp when you shave that bit of plastic off on the bottom.

The open hand looks better, but I wish mine was a closed hand. I feel more confident about it not breaking. Can the weapon handles push trough all the way on the closed hand versions because there's a stop in the opens hand ones?

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:51 am

RiddlerJ wrote:
mooncake623 wrote:I prefer the open hand Arcee, think it just looks better, esp when you shave that bit of plastic off on the bottom.

The open hand looks better, but I wish mine was a closed hand. I feel more confident about it not breaking. Can the weapon handles push trough all the way on the closed hand versions because there's a stop in the opens hand ones?

yea, I shaved the stop off at the bottom and it can hold the weapons fine. I don't feel like it's going to break. but do be careful cause it is quite thin.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:41 am

^^^^^^

that is hilarious and terrifying all at once.

News Credits: 13 · by **OptimalOptimus2** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:34 pm

I've been waiting for the Fems to have galleries! They're both awesome!

by **Syn_13** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:25 pm

Va'al wrote:

This! This is why we need a Leader Magnus so badly!

News Credits: 9 · by **Mykltron** » Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:06 am

This has just become illegal in my country.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:56 am

To kick off the weekend, Seibertron.com brings you another installment of photo galleries, and we turn once more to Takara Tomy and it's Legends time today. Check out below a selection of images showing off the latest incarnation of what once was a Macross VF-1S Super Valkyrie - LG07 Leader Class Jetfire! The Japanese counterpart of the Hasbro Generations toy (comparison shots included) features all the same weapons and removable mask, and pretty much the same deco and paint scheme; exceptions are the lack of chrome on the red parts, some additional leg paint apps, more detail on the Autobot symbol and other very minor touches, making it look more and more like its IDW character. Check them out for yourselves by clicking on any image below!

Transformers Legends Jetfire

by **wetwithwaterwings** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:29 am

The Takara version looks so good. I bought the Hasbro version when it was on super sale because it was December and as my girlfriend said, "it looks Christmas-y". The Hasbro paint apps seem to homage the show more closely. Was there an inspiration for the extra paint apps on the Takara version?

News Credits: 3 · by **Optimizzy** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:58 am

I don't see enough to warrant the higher cost. I can add a few paint apps and remove the chrome so...meh. Still, love this new mold and I do like the black gun barrels.

by **wetwithwaterwings** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:19 am

I bought it purely for the non-chromed parts. I can't customize to save my life, so I had to pay.

News Credits: 2 · by **BERSEKAEL** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:19 am

Amazing gallery as usual, thank you.

Aside chrome :SICK:

and price, I find takara closer to IDW and hasbro a G1 deco, therefore I am happy with my hasbro version.

News Credits: 3 · by **Optimizzy** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:29 am

Syn_13 wrote:
Va'al wrote:

This! This is why we need a Leader Magnus so badly!

I can agree with that. I took the PRiD Magnus and painted him a bit to represent my Magnus but I'd love to see new one.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:38 am

wetwithwaterwings wrote:Was there an inspiration for the extra paint apps on the Takara version?

Probably the earliest promotional images of the Hasbro version are what inspired the Takara version, since those early promo pics had the extra red chest stripes and black-painted kibble gun barrels that the Takara version has.

wetwithwaterwings wrote:I bought it purely for the non-chromed parts. I can't customize to save my life, so I had to pay.

Fortunately, removing the chrome from the Hasbro version is so simple that anybody can do it.

by **MGrotusque** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:11 pm

Love that tutorial. I have those products in my house. I can't believe how easy it is. I just saved 100 bucks by watching this video.

I have the chromed version waiting in my pile of loot but the other day bombing around town i stopped at one of the local nerd stores and i found a Takara version on the shelf. They are asking 84.99 plus tax for it. It's way too much but i've been racking my brain whether or not to buy because of the unchromed bits.

I might even leave one or two chromed and dechrome the others. I like options.

by **Naked Magnus** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:11 pm

What...WHAT? You mean to tell me that the HASBRO version has chrome but the TAKARA one does not?????? And, on top of that, fans prefer the TAKARA version specifically because it does not have chrome? Isn't it normally the opposite?

WHAT KIND OF PARALLEL UNIVERSE HAVE I SLIPPED INTO???
:HEADHURTS:

by **Naked Magnus** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:12 pm

Accidental double post. Please ignore.

News Credits: 3 · by **Optimizzy** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:03 pm

Naked Magnus wrote:What...WHAT? You mean to tell me that the HASBRO version has chrome but the TAKARA one does not?????? And, on top of that, fans prefer the TAKARA version specifically because it does not have chrome? Isn't it normally the opposite?

WHAT KIND OF PARALLEL UNIVERSE HAVE I SLIPPED INTO???

Lol. Yeah. I think stuff would probably sell better if they just put Takara on everything.

I keed.

by **divineforce** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:07 pm

loving these guys

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:35 pm

Optimizzy wrote:
Naked Magnus wrote:What...WHAT? You mean to tell me that the HASBRO version has chrome but the TAKARA one does not?????? And, on top of that, fans prefer the TAKARA version specifically because it does not have chrome? Isn't it normally the opposite?

WHAT KIND OF PARALLEL UNIVERSE HAVE I SLIPPED INTO???

Lol. Yeah. I think stuff would probably sell better if they just put Takara on everything.

I keed.

i assume youre referencing the henkei line, which was littered with chrome. but, did people like that line because of the chrome? the paint apps in general were just better, and for the most part, the chrome emulated their G1 counterparts (ie: shoulder cannons, guns). not to mention, there wasnt really any gaudy use of chrome either. for example, henkei jetfire's only use of chrome was the rear thrusters.

i think that used sparingly, chrome can be really nice. and peoples aversion to hasbros jetfire is that there was too much chrome, and not enough paint apps.

News Credits: 3 · by **Optimizzy** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:56 pm

My thing is that anytime Takara produces a new repaint, regardless of actual improvement, it's hailed as awesome by someone. I'm just calling that out. It's not all the time, but it's often enough for me to wonder if it's truly an objective opinion. Other than the non chrome, I don't see an improvement in this jet fire. I just don't. Getting non-chromed bits just isn't worth the import costs and takara'a pricing scale. There are times when Takaras paint apps and coloring is superior. But this isn't one of those times really. I'm not meaning to insult anyone, because Takara's market is more collector based, but it sometimes seems that Hasbro can't win some some fans.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:08 pm

Naked Magnus wrote:What...WHAT? You mean to tell me that the HASBRO version has chrome but the TAKARA one does not?????? And, on top of that, fans prefer the TAKARA version specifically because it does not have chrome? Isn't it normally the opposite?

WHAT KIND OF PARALLEL UNIVERSE HAVE I SLIPPED INTO???

Have both. And yes, misapplication of chrome ends bad. Maybe if Hasbro just chromed the pseudo metallalic exhausts on both the 'bot and the boosters it would have turned out right.

News Credits: 3600 · by **Seibertron** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:56 am

Optimizzy wrote:My thing is that anytime Takara produces a new repaint, regardless of actual improvement, it's hailed as awesome by someone. I'm just calling that out. It's not all the time, but it's often enough for me to wonder if it's truly an objective opinion. Other than the non chrome, I don't see an improvement in this jet fire. I just don't. Getting non-chromed bits just isn't worth the import costs and takara'a pricing scale. There are times when Takaras paint apps and coloring is superior. But this isn't one of those times really. I'm not meaning to insult anyone, because Takara's market is more collector based, but it sometimes seems that Hasbro can't win some some fans.

I 100% agree with your statement, Optimizzy. Hasbro has it pretty rough with the collectors community.

It seems like whichever company releases a figure 2nd, ends up with the better scheme that is often more widely accepted. Unfortunately it's usually Takara that comes out with a figure 2nd but in cases where it's Hasbro, we end up with things like the original Masterpiece Starscream which was much more preferred than the poor color choice for the original MP-3 Starscream.

by **Optimum Supreme** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:46 pm

In initial pics the non-chromed looked better, but in newer pics like these, well, I'll take the chromed, I just don't like the shade of red Takara made those parts. Looks cheap.

I do like the black barrels on the guns, but that's a minor thing.

The rest of the added paint on the Takara seems minuscule. There's the extended stripes on the chest, and the stripes around the bottom of the legs above the feet, and...? That it? Meh. If you really cared you could use a red sharpie on the Hasbro and achieve similar results, I'm sure.

They're both great looking overall, mind you, I just am glad for the Hasbro and chrome now, even if I wasn't sure of the chrome before.