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Ok, i know some one has thought this besides me, but doesn't starscreams altmode, REMIND, you of the YF-21 from macross Plus.. you know the Blue Jet??? Not that it's exact, but it really looks like that Jet!! which by the way I love...I just wish SS would be released in his G-1 colors.. that would be cool!!

What does it for me is the purity of the design.

One thing I found with the G1 Transformers and most of the other editions, were that they comprised of a hodge-podge of designs and were inconsistent. For example, the faces were unrealistic and cartoonish, whereas some of the bot forms tried to look realistic.

Whereas for these animated TFers, from alt mode to bot mode - there is a purity of design, there is no compromise. As a work of art, this range of toys is easily the best I've seen. Although I don't particularly care for the cartoon, I would collect at least 3 of these toys just because they are a piece of ART.

Lord~Megatron wrote:Pic dont work.

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shortround wrote:Yeah there starting to grow on me as well. Which is scary because I said after the movie I would take a break from collecting untill the classics 2.0 came out but oh well there goes the resolution out the window.

I'm out of touch - what's so special about classics 2.0?

ajy101 wrote:

Lord~Megatron wrote:Pic dont work.

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I think all of these are art they have great look in both modes. What just made me die for these are its a vehichle then you transform it it looks like a action figure the articulation looks limitless and i like how the price range is as high as just 20$ so it will save me so much money with the stupid leader/supreme classes that take up to much space.

I absolutely agree. Check this out:

http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=view&al ... 00&start=0

Can you even see how this would transform into a bike? I just can't figure out in my head. It really looks like they cheated, and it's a non-transformable bot. The transformations are the most beautiful pieces of art I have ever seen.

If you compare it to say the movie transformers, they had to compromise so much. The feet are compromised, some of them don't even have hands.

With the animated TFers, the hands are beautiful, the feet are beautiful. The head is beautiful. The dimensions are attractive. Beautiful piece of art.

Does anyone know when these will be released?

It is nice how these figures seem to not have to compromise much for the either form. I think one thing that helps is most if not all of these figures do not have any gimmicks to hinder some things on the figure.

ajy101 wrote:I absolutely agree. Check this out:

http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=view&al ... 00&start=0

Can you even see how this would transform into a bike? I just can't figure out in my head. It really looks like they cheated, and it's a non-transformable bot. The transformations are the most beautiful pieces of art I have ever seen.

If you compare it to say the movie transformers, they had to compromise so much. The feet are compromised, some of them don't even have hands.

With the animated TFers, the hands are beautiful, the feet are beautiful. The head is beautiful. The dimensions are attractive. Beautiful piece of art.

I know unquestionably the best bike transformer ever made. I cant see how it would transform either it just looks so solid in both modes also i hope he comes with his big shuriken(lol) Look at this one http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=view&al ... 0&start=20
I really like this one i also have a great amont of queston about how it transforms the sculpt is very nice and it looks very articulated and well balanced for a cannon of that size on his arm.

Most of the figures look good (i.e. Starscream, Megatron, Soundwave, Optimus (call me crazy if you'd like), while some are just... not that good (under non-blunt terms). Well, I'll pick up most of the awesome figs (i.e. Grimlock, Optimus, Megatron) & I might (slim chance) pick up the rest.

As for the show, since I live in Canada, I probably won't see it until the fall of next year (unless YTV can pick up the show during next summer) then I might give it a watch or two, & until that time when the toys come, I might as well look around for older figs I don't have.

Oh, & I agree with Koloth

since i collect gundams, marcross, and transformer.....i think these animated design are the best designs i seen in any anime or transformer series ever....!!!!!



i mean some of the figures in bots form dont even look like they transform 2 anything like a cycle or truck but they do.

Yes i dont like some of the designs(Bumblebee) like talkin about but i aslo know i will like 2 see more pics or acturally see ppl with the toys b4 i make a final decision on them.

And wat with the whole metal physics talk about. Sheesh ppl jusy because their jaw or tummy rolls or make shape they we know metal doesnt mean we should pass judgement on a KID aim Cartoon. Let me repeat......KID AIM CARTOON. Plus we accept the crazy idea of organic, metals property in beast wars so y judge heavying on a cartoon aim at kids.

the toys is wat really matter anyway plus we gettin 3 differ toys designs between now and 2008 wit the movie toys, animated toys and the long awaited classics coming out that we FANS should be rejoicing not be critics of toys that still in devolping stages

Since nobody havent mention it..........I think Prowl is the best Cycle 2 Bot Figure i have eva seen

I like how it looks like Megatron's helmet is actually a separate piece, rather than part of his head.

StryderPrime wrote:since i collect gundams, marcross, and transformer.....i think these animated design are the best designs i seen in any anime or transformer series ever....!!!!!



i mean some of the figures in bots form dont even look like they transform 2 anything like a cycle or truck but they do.

Yes i dont like some of the designs(Bumblebee) like talkin about but i aslo know i will like 2 see more pics or acturally see ppl with the toys b4 i make a final decision on them.

And wat with the whole metal physics talk about. Sheesh ppl jusy because their jaw or tummy rolls or make shape they we know metal doesnt mean we should pass judgement on a KID aim Cartoon. Let me repeat......KID AIM CARTOON. Plus we accept the crazy idea of organic, metals property in beast wars so y judge heavying on a cartoon aim at kids.

the toys is wat really matter anyway plus we gettin 3 differ toys designs between now and 2008 wit the movie toys, animated toys and the long awaited classics coming out that we FANS should be rejoicing not be critics of toys that still in devolping stages

Since nobody havent mention it..........I think Prowl is the best Cycle 2 Bot Figure i have eva seen

I agree with everthing except for the bumblebee part i think the figure is awsome as heck the only problem i have with it is the feet.

Lord~Megatron wrote:

StryderPrime wrote:since i collect gundams, marcross, and transformer.....i think these animated design are the best designs i seen in any anime or transformer series ever....!!!!!



i mean some of the figures in bots form dont even look like they transform 2 anything like a cycle or truck but they do.

Yes i dont like some of the designs(Bumblebee) like talkin about but i aslo know i will like 2 see more pics or acturally see ppl with the toys b4 i make a final decision on them.

And wat with the whole metal physics talk about. Sheesh ppl jusy because their jaw or tummy rolls or make shape they we know metal doesnt mean we should pass judgement on a KID aim Cartoon. Let me repeat......KID AIM CARTOON. Plus we accept the crazy idea of organic, metals property in beast wars so y judge heavying on a cartoon aim at kids.

the toys is wat really matter anyway plus we gettin 3 differ toys designs between now and 2008 wit the movie toys, animated toys and the long awaited classics coming out that we FANS should be rejoicing not be critics of toys that still in devolping stages

Since nobody havent mention it..........I think Prowl is the best Cycle 2 Bot Figure i have eva seen

I agree with everthing except for the bumblebee part i think the figure is awsome as heck the only problem i have with it is the feet.

that wat killin me about the figure 2 Lord-Megs but i got months and months 2 get used 2 them by then hopefully

ajy101 wrote:I like how it looks like Megatron's helmet is actually a separate piece, rather than part of his head.

Yep I also Like ratchet he looks really good But the only one i see any bad flaws in is lockdown http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=view&al ... 00&start=0

StryderPrime wrote:

Lord~Megatron wrote:

StryderPrime wrote:since i collect gundams, marcross, and transformer.....i think these animated design are the best designs i seen in any anime or transformer series ever....!!!!!



i mean some of the figures in bots form dont even look like they transform 2 anything like a cycle or truck but they do.

Yes i dont like some of the designs(Bumblebee) like talkin about but i aslo know i will like 2 see more pics or acturally see ppl with the toys b4 i make a final decision on them.

And wat with the whole metal physics talk about. Sheesh ppl jusy because their jaw or tummy rolls or make shape they we know metal doesnt mean we should pass judgement on a KID aim Cartoon. Let me repeat......KID AIM CARTOON. Plus we accept the crazy idea of organic, metals property in beast wars so y judge heavying on a cartoon aim at kids.

the toys is wat really matter anyway plus we gettin 3 differ toys designs between now and 2008 wit the movie toys, animated toys and the long awaited classics coming out that we FANS should be rejoicing not be critics of toys that still in devolping stages

Since nobody havent mention it..........I think Prowl is the best Cycle 2 Bot Figure i have eva seen

I agree with everthing except for the bumblebee part i think the figure is awsome as heck the only problem i have with it is the feet.

that wat killin me about the figure 2 Lord-Megs but i got months and months 2 get used 2 them by then hopefully

Yeah it will take a while but why is bumblebee geting those weird feet in all of his toys? Still i cant wait another year lol

StryderPrime wrote:since i collect gundams, marcross, and transformer.....i think these animated design are the best designs i seen in any anime or transformer series ever....!!!!!



i mean some of the figures in bots form dont even look like they transform 2 anything like a cycle or truck but they do.

Yes i dont like some of the designs(Bumblebee) like talkin about but i aslo know i will like 2 see more pics or acturally see ppl with the toys b4 i make a final decision on them.

And wat with the whole metal physics talk about. Sheesh ppl jusy because their jaw or tummy rolls or make shape they we know metal doesnt mean we should pass judgement on a KID aim Cartoon. Let me repeat......KID AIM CARTOON. Plus we accept the crazy idea of organic, metals property in beast wars so y judge heavying on a cartoon aim at kids.

the toys is wat really matter anyway plus we gettin 3 differ toys designs between now and 2008 wit the movie toys, animated toys and the long awaited classics coming out that we FANS should be rejoicing not be critics of toys that still in devolping stages

Since nobody havent mention it..........I think Prowl is the best Cycle 2 Bot Figure i have eva seen

Kid aimed cartoon is not the issue, the issue is, that these are robots, not humans, or any carbon-based life form. Alloys do not flex or flow like that, and kids should be smart enough to know that. I know I did. I am so sick of the excuse "It's for kids" used to justify cartoons that are dumbed down, and/or are cheaply animated. Kids deserve better. It takes more time and effort to animate mechanical moving parts than a fluid curving arm. American cartoons are so far behind in quality and detail compared to great Japanese anime such as Gundam, and Macross, it's sickening. This cartoon makes the 1980's one look stunning.

Back to the toys, I can see some people's POV about the way tey transform, and how tere is little kibble, etc. All very good points. But they still look too "kiddiefied" for me to go to the toy aisle and pick these things up. I'm used to, and like the sophisticated look of Transformers like the movie line, Cybertron, Classics, and of course, Alternators. IF only they did a cartoon for the Classics line, that would have really made things a lot better.

The stories of the new cartoon can be really great. We don't know yet, but assuming they will be, the look won't do it justice. No disrespect intended for those who do like it.

This looks beter and better. Sure, some of the Chins are brutally long, but I can live with it. Blitzwing looks fantastic, and I hope to see something of Shockwave soon...

Sportimus Prime wrote:

StryderPrime wrote:since i collect gundams, marcross, and transformer.....i think these animated design are the best designs i seen in any anime or transformer series ever....!!!!!



i mean some of the figures in bots form dont even look like they transform 2 anything like a cycle or truck but they do.

Yes i dont like some of the designs(Bumblebee) like talkin about but i aslo know i will like 2 see more pics or acturally see ppl with the toys b4 i make a final decision on them.

And wat with the whole metal physics talk about. Sheesh ppl jusy because their jaw or tummy rolls or make shape they we know metal doesnt mean we should pass judgement on a KID aim Cartoon. Let me repeat......KID AIM CARTOON. Plus we accept the crazy idea of organic, metals property in beast wars so y judge heavying on a cartoon aim at kids.

the toys is wat really matter anyway plus we gettin 3 differ toys designs between now and 2008 wit the movie toys, animated toys and the long awaited classics coming out that we FANS should be rejoicing not be critics of toys that still in devolping stages

Since nobody havent mention it..........I think Prowl is the best Cycle 2 Bot Figure i have eva seen

Kid aimed cartoon is not the issue, the issue is, that these are robots, not humans, or any carbon-based life form. Alloys do not flex or flow like that, and kids should be smart enough to know that. I know I did. I am so sick of the excuse "It's for kids" used to justify cartoons that are dumbed down, and/or are cheaply animated. Kids deserve better. It takes more time and effort to animate mechanical moving parts than a fluid curving arm. American cartoons are so far behind in quality and detail compared to great Japanese anime such as Gundam, and Macross, it's sickening. This cartoon makes the 1980's one look stunning.

Back to the toys, I can see some people's POV about the way tey transform, and how tere is little kibble, etc. All very good points. But they still look too "kiddiefied" for me to go to the toy aisle and pick these things up. I'm used to, and like the sophisticated look of Transformers like the movie line, Cybertron, Classics, and of course, Alternators. IF only they did a cartoon for the Classics line, that would have really made things a lot better.

The stories of the new cartoon can be really great. We don't know yet, but assuming they will be, the look won't do it justice. No disrespect intended for those who do like it.

They are still aleins with make the metal no really matter. Also the toys look to kiddie well toys are made for kids just to lets ya in on that little secret and robot heros are worse and they dont transform but people like them??? I just think its the new serries predjudice syndrome. g1 has really crappy animation and no one complains about it. It dose it just looks so ehhhhhhh. At least this cartoon is more fluid and they have a good range of movement. It is also the future so it could be a possibility metal can move like that in the future so w/e . Not checking my spelling so excuses me for that off to bed for me.

microclone wrote:koloth, i love that cartoon signature. wheres that from ? very apt.

http://www.sabrina-online.com/

Supposed to update weekly, but lately he just seems to do the whole month and dump them all on the first. So you get about 3-4 comics the first of every month which is nice but then you have nothing to look forward to until nest month. I love how he addressed the movie this month. It isn't all transformers though.

Prowl is probably one of the most impressive in the line. Absolutely no kibble at all. And nothing overly obvious about his transformation. And lets not forget Blitzwing. He looks great as well I'm very impressed that the only part of the tank visible in jet mode are the treads. You may not like the asthetics but you have to admit these are technically impressive figures.

Plus I think this stuffy fandom needs something new. All anyone seems to want is a perfect rendition of G1. Even Alternators as great as they were got the occasional complaint. Someone has the wrong Alt mode or it isn't G1 enough. I really wish more people would read the little comic in my sig. Because it is amazing to me just how exactly like that so many people really do act. It isn't parody or exageration at all it is a snippit of reality.

Lord~Megatron wrote:

Sportimus Prime wrote:

StryderPrime wrote:since i collect gundams, marcross, and transformer.....i think these animated design are the best designs i seen in any anime or transformer series ever....!!!!!



i mean some of the figures in bots form dont even look like they transform 2 anything like a cycle or truck but they do.

Yes i dont like some of the designs(Bumblebee) like talkin about but i aslo know i will like 2 see more pics or acturally see ppl with the toys b4 i make a final decision on them.

And wat with the whole metal physics talk about. Sheesh ppl jusy because their jaw or tummy rolls or make shape they we know metal doesnt mean we should pass judgement on a KID aim Cartoon. Let me repeat......KID AIM CARTOON. Plus we accept the crazy idea of organic, metals property in beast wars so y judge heavying on a cartoon aim at kids.

the toys is wat really matter anyway plus we gettin 3 differ toys designs between now and 2008 wit the movie toys, animated toys and the long awaited classics coming out that we FANS should be rejoicing not be critics of toys that still in devolping stages

Since nobody havent mention it..........I think Prowl is the best Cycle 2 Bot Figure i have eva seen

Kid aimed cartoon is not the issue, the issue is, that these are robots, not humans, or any carbon-based life form. Alloys do not flex or flow like that, and kids should be smart enough to know that. I know I did. I am so sick of the excuse "It's for kids" used to justify cartoons that are dumbed down, and/or are cheaply animated. Kids deserve better. It takes more time and effort to animate mechanical moving parts than a fluid curving arm. American cartoons are so far behind in quality and detail compared to great Japanese anime such as Gundam, and Macross, it's sickening. This cartoon makes the 1980's one look stunning.

Back to the toys, I can see some people's POV about the way tey transform, and how tere is little kibble, etc. All very good points. But they still look too "kiddiefied" for me to go to the toy aisle and pick these things up. I'm used to, and like the sophisticated look of Transformers like the movie line, Cybertron, Classics, and of course, Alternators. IF only they did a cartoon for the Classics line, that would have really made things a lot better.

The stories of the new cartoon can be really great. We don't know yet, but assuming they will be, the look won't do it justice. No disrespect intended for those who do like it.

They are still aleins with make the metal no really matter. Also the toys look to kiddie well toys are made for kids just to lets ya in on that little secret and robot heros are worse and they dont transform but people like them??? I just think its the new serries predjudice syndrome. g1 has really crappy animation and no one complains about it. It dose it just looks so ehhhhhhh. At least this cartoon is more fluid and they have a good range of movement. It is also the future so it could be a possibility metal can move like that in the future so w/e . Not checking my spelling so excuses me for that off to bed for me.

Did YOU just mock G1?!

I mean, so what if the animation wasn't the greatest of it's kind, but it's what brought Transformers to the world, so, it's no reason to call it crappy!

I agree about the alien alloy bit though, since it's aliens making the metal, it might have been a flexable alloy that the aliens made these Transformers out of.

These are looking cool so far, I like that they have made a Pre-Earth Prime figure too, and from what we have seen of the show footage so far the figures do look a lot like their show counterparts, can't wait to see more.

Nice pics, must have been the stock photos used before they were thrown into the Powerpoint slide.

The watermark makes a few of them hard to see properly, but who can blame tformers for doing it in this day and age?

Cant believe figures like Bulkhead are still so damn close to their tv show counterpart... greatness!

I'm slowly caving in to these. Man I wanted to hate this after seeing the initial promo images. But it just keeps growing on me. After seeing the two clips of the show, and seeing the toys, I actually am looking forward to these. Should been like how I was for the movie Megs and Screamer, see them in action first before passing judgment.

I'm really looking forward to the show and the toys look great too.

In fact, now that I have all the movie characters (except ugly Megatron) and Wreckage I think I'm done with the movie line.

Things like Movie Swindle just don't do it for me - much prefer Animated toys.

When are they coming out? When will BBTS have preorders up?

Skids