The Energon Pub

by **Rated X** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:07 am

Looks like a pile of turds on a plate. The only thing I hate about Botcon is the "TOP SECRET" culture they adopt. I hate teasers, hype, bulls**t, etc. Were not kids, were grown men. You are selling us something and if you want our money show us what youre gonna put on the table.

Like Covenant on Facebook · by **Covenant** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:12 am

Now see, that sounds kid-like to me. 'I wanna see it now! Show me now! I don't WANNA wait!' Building suspense, creating hype, teasing a future product to the consumer base are all very adult, practical and valid things.

News Credits: 18 · by **Immortal Starscream** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:13 am

I think people are reading this the wrong way. they havent said that this is a g1 set at all, only that one of the figures is something an 80s fan would call a must have toy of the year, and that that same figure is one of 2 that have never had an update.

that being said im pretty sure that this is a full set of classics molds, but who knows for sure.

by **gothsaurus** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:20 am

This year's exclusive... Brown-Gravy Maximus. I called it.

News Credits: 1 · by **Janus Prime** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:21 am

Overlord pops to mind but he´s not very iconic to the 80's american fans... could it be an homage to some other 80´s show?

News Credits: 1 · by **FellintoOblivion** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:27 am

Clearly they're giving us Rocklords.

Like Covenant on Facebook · by **Covenant** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:37 am

FellintoOblivion wrote:Clearly they're giving us Rocklords.

The toy made for chucking at your friends? I'd be okay with that.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:54 am

I'm gonna throw in a possibility and put this guess out into the open. Emirate Xaaron.

News Credits: 1 · by **FellintoOblivion** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:00 am

I wonder what they mean by "first update ever"?

Do they mean an original mold that is given some modifications or a character that was never remade in any form since it's first appearance?

Like Covenant on Facebook · by **Covenant** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:01 am

I'm guessing the latter.

News Credits: 1 · by **FellintoOblivion** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:02 am

Covenant wrote:I'm guessing the latter.

Wouldn't that be an EXTREMELY small list?

Like Covenant on Facebook · by **Covenant** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:10 am

Likely so, but all the more reason to claim it a must have.

by **ligier** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:12 am

arcee?

by **Godzillabot Primal** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:37 am

Okay now this is gonna be fun...

now I have no clue as to the identity of the head, but considering the hype around the update of Thunderwing, Bludgeon, and Skullgrin. This may have to do with Pretenders!

This is really dumb, but maybe PCC figures? with the tiny robot redecoed to look like the inner robot and the bigger bot redecoed to resemble the shell?

Just a thought, please keep criticisms relatively gentle

News Credits: 5 · by **emeraldbeacon** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:53 am

I'm still thinking that GoBots are a possibility. Hasbro owns the characters now (if not the actual molds for the toys, which remain Bandai property, IIRC), and they have been slowly teasing them into continuity (BugByte, Fracture, Cop-Tur). They were a pretty strong 80s brand, perhaps even on par with Transformers for a time, before Hasbro pulled into the lead.

Ah well. A guy can hope, right?

by **bfett88** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:23 am

How about - Rodimus Prime? Shockwave? Soundwave?

News Credits: 187 · by **GetRightRobot** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:29 am

FellintoOblivion wrote:
Covenant wrote:I'm guessing the latter.

Wouldn't that be an EXTREMELY small list?

From the recent "classics" styled lines (excluding Takara paint variations Henkei Henkei & United):

Kup
Scourge
Galvatron
Lugnut
Windcharger
Astrotrain
Octane
Megatron (nerf gun)
Warpath
Cheetor
Dinobot
Rumble
Frenzy

Also if you exclude certain members for the TFCC exclusive:
Superion
Bruticus
Devastator
Although these were re-released under ROTF banners with paint variations, they were not re-purposed.

There might be some more I missed.

News Credits: 2 · by **bionic_radical** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:30 am

Anyone picked up the last Marvel issue and looked at it in a while?

News Credits: 187 · by **GetRightRobot** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:31 am

bfett88 wrote:How about - Rodimus Prime? Shockwave? Soundwave?

Rodimus unlikely to get any more love. Masterpiece/Fansproject.

Shockwave = Classics Megatron (nerf gun)

Soundwave = RTS Perceptor (a customizer did a great job showing how well it worked.

by **bfett88** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:50 am

GetRightRobot wrote:
bfett88 wrote:How about - Rodimus Prime? Shockwave? Soundwave?

Rodimus unlikely to get any more love. Masterpiece/Fansproject.

Shockwave = Classics Megatron (nerf gun)

Soundwave = RTS Perceptor (a customizer did a great job showing how well it worked.

Even though Fansproject made the Rodimus attachment. It is still a third party. It is a great set, but in my opinion it is still not a Hasbro remake in Classics style.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:57 am

Guys, guys, these are supposed to be characters who have NEVER received updates. Orion Pax, Elita One, Guzzle, Alpha Trion, Devcon, Chromia, Moonracer, Hun-Gurrr, Sky Lynx, Sandstorm, Broadside, Springer, Shockwave, Star Saber, Arcee, Rodimus Prime, and Soundwave have ALL received updates within the past 27 years of the Transformers franchise. We need to think DEEPER with this if we want to figure out who HASN'T received ANY updates since their original debut in the 1980s.

by **gothsaurus** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:00 pm

Unless something changes, the set will steer clear of any major characters Hasbro/Takara has on the shelves... OR in the works for at least the next year or two. I'm thinking that will rule out a lot of these. Bludgeon, Rodimus, Soundwave, Shockwave included.

I think the notions about the Wreckers and Xaaron are probably the best notions I've hear so far... and would make for the most epic, must have set. Not sure about the character that's only had one toy / never been redone. Hmmmmmm. Maybe Skids, Reflector, an Insecticon... Hmmm.

Maybe we should be thinking Japanese characters...

News Credits: 1 · by **FellintoOblivion** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:05 pm

Has Impactor ever had a toy at all?

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:06 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Guys, guys, these are supposed to be characters who have NEVER received updates. Orion Pax, Elita One, Guzzle, Alpha Trion, Devcon, Chromia, Moonracer, Hun-Gurrr, Sky Lynx, Sandstorm, Broadside, Springer, Shockwave, Star Saber, Arcee, Rodimus Prime, and Soundwave have ALL received updates within the past 27 years of the Transformers franchise. We need to think DEEPER with this if we want to figure out who HASN'T received ANY updates since their original debut in the 1980s.

I was going to say this about Rodimus Prime (Titanium), Soundwave (Titanium and Cybertron), and Shockwave (DotM and Energon? Shockblast seemed an homage to Shockwave, though not a direct update). Are you considering the minicon Sky Lynx an update? I'm not sure I'd consider any minicon an update....

News Credits: 187 · by **GetRightRobot** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:06 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Guys, guys, these are supposed to be characters who have NEVER received updates. Orion Pax, Elita One, Guzzle, Alpha Trion, Devcon, Chromia, Moonracer, Hun-Gurrr, Sky Lynx, Sandstorm, Broadside, Springer, Shockwave, Star Saber, Arcee, Rodimus Prime, and Soundwave have ALL received updates within the past 27 years of the Transformers franchise. We need to think DEEPER with this if we want to figure out who HASN'T received ANY updates since their original debut in the 1980s.

Devcon got a toy? Missed that one. More to the point, I believe they are referring to toy molds that have not yet been repurposed/retooled/repainted, not Characters who have never received a toy.