The Energon Pub

by **Swipestreaker** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:08 pm

I say G1 Prime because he took down Devastator and Monstructor alone. I don't think Sentry has that on his resume. All hes done is thrown guys into the sun and ripped Carnage in half and killed him.

by **Inferno Prime** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:30 am

Someones going to be thrown into the sun...

by **AxiomScion** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:00 pm

Inferno Prime wrote:Someones going to be thrown into the sun...

and then ripped in half :shock:

by **Swipestreaker** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:55 pm

And Guess what? Sentry gonna be the one ripped in half.

News Credits: 49 · by **Senor Hugo** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:35 am

Sentry>Hulk>Prime

Sentry wins.

by **Swipestreaker** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:08 pm

But my point he Sentry can't beat Devastator or Monstructor by himself but Optimus can. So therefor he kills Sentry.

News Credits: 49 · by **Senor Hugo** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:59 pm

Swipestreaker wrote:But my point he Sentry can't beat Devastator or Monstructor by himself but Optimus can. So therefor he kills Sentry.

Yet Sentry went toe to toe with World War Hulk.

Sentry still wins.

by **Inferno Prime** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:24 pm

He defeated Terrax the tamer like he was a child. Terrax can do this:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1797/terraxplanetbustingyo2.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4446/terraxplanetbusting1ak7.jpg
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9844/terraxplanetbusting3vj0.jpg

When Monstructor or devestator can destroy a planet with a single blow let me know.[/url]

by **Swipestreaker** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:10 pm

Inferno Prime wrote:He defeated Terrax the tamer like he was a child. Terrax can do this:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1797/terraxplanetbustingyo2.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4446/terraxplanetbusting1ak7.jpg
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9844/terraxplanetbusting3vj0.jpg

When Monstructor or devestator can destroy a planet with a single blow let me know.[/url]

Devastator could if he wanted to.

by **Inferno Prime** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:37 pm

Devastator could if he wanted to.

Devestator hasn't done that to a city let alone a planet. remember gestalts have been taken down by nukes before. Millions of time less than the power Terrax puts out.

by **Swipestreaker** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:52 pm

Inferno Prime wrote:
Devastator could if he wanted to.

Devestator hasn't done that to a city let alone a planet. remember gestalts have been taken down by nukes before. Millions of time less than the power Terrax puts out.

You mean like the ones in the Transformers Movie '86 when Devastator took on as if it was nothing?

by **Inferno Prime** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:06 pm

What on earth are you talking about? Devestator fought the dinobots to a standstill and then in his second appearance got defeated by the mighty power of Rumble and Frenzy.
He wasn't taking nukes.

by **Swipestreaker** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:06 pm

You mean to tell me that you didn't see him take on Cybertronian nukes while he was tearing the Autobot base apart? Heck I go another notch..........All of the Dinobots except for Swoop can beat him fairly quick. Maybe when he realizes his potinetial then i'll resent these comments but for right now hes a notch under the Hulk just like Prime is.

News Credits: 49 · by **Senor Hugo** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:20 pm

Swipestreaker wrote:You mean to tell me that you didn't see him take on Cybertronian nukes while he was tearing the Autobot base apart? Heck I go another notch..........All of the Dinobots except for Swoop can beat him fairly quick. Maybe when he realizes his potinetial then i'll resent these comments but for right now hes a notch under the Hulk just like Prime is.

For one, no cartoon has ever utilized nuclear bombs. So saying "cybertronian nukes" is just stupid.

Secondly, just because Prime is a robot leader with a cosmic flashlight/usb drive. Doesn't make him invincible. He is not the strongest Autobot, yes he may have taken down Monstructor and Devastator, but he has the size and intelligence going for him.

Sentry is smaller than Prime, has super speed. Plus he has the "power of a million exploding suns." Does Prime have the power of a million exploding suns? Nope, he has the power of a 20-25 foot robot with a cosmic flashlight/usb port and a energy rifle.

by **Swipestreaker** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:49 pm

Senor Hugo wrote:
Swipestreaker wrote:You mean to tell me that you didn't see him take on Cybertronian nukes while he was tearing the Autobot base apart? Heck I go another notch..........All of the Dinobots except for Swoop can beat him fairly quick. Maybe when he realizes his potinetial then i'll resent these comments but for right now hes a notch under the Hulk just like Prime is.

For one, no cartoon has ever utilized nuclear bombs. So saying "cybertronian nukes" is just stupid.

Secondly, just because Prime is a robot leader with a cosmic flashlight/usb drive. Doesn't make him invincible. He is not the strongest Autobot, yes he may have taken down Monstructor and Devastator, but he has the size and intelligence going for him.

Sentry is smaller than Prime, has super speed. Plus he has the "power of a million exploding suns." Does Prime have the power of a million exploding suns? Nope, he has the power of a 20-25 foot robot with a cosmic flashlight/usb port and a energy rifle.

And thats why i said he could beat him now. they haven't yet explored Sentry's true power yet right now Optimus can beat him.

by **Deadpool.** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:56 pm

Swipestreaker wrote:You mean to tell me that you didn't see him take on Cybertronian nukes while he was tearing the Autobot base apart? Heck I go another notch..........All of the Dinobots except for Swoop can beat him fairly quick. Maybe when he realizes his potinetial then i'll resent these comments but for right now hes a notch under the Hulk just like Prime is.

In case you didn't notice, the missiles actually somewhat missed Devastator.....

And I hate to say this, but if you want to keep insisting on Prime winning no matter what, why do you want to discuss it here?

by **Inferno Prime** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:34 am

Err.. right Prime isn't a notch below hulk. An angry hulk is million of times Optimus' strength. Transformers outside of the Gods are very weak compared to top tier comic characters.

Also Missiles that make small explosions arn't nukes. The one time a nuke has been used a gestalt it was blown to pieces.

by **Swipestreaker** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:17 pm

Inferno Prime wrote:Err.. right Prime isn't a notch below hulk. An angry hulk is million of times Optimus' strength. Transformers outside of the Gods are very weak compared to top tier comic characters.

Also Missiles that make small explosions arn't nukes. The one time a nuke has been used a gestalt it was blown to pieces.

Not really, It depends on which characters you pick them against. They're on par with the mid-high power level characters. But of course they're no where near as strong as the cosmic characters Galactus and such unless Primus or unicron are involved in that matter.

by **Inferno Prime** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:52 am

If by mid high you mean Iron man, then yes. They aren't anywhere near the Top tier where Superman, Thor, Silver surfer and Green Lantern hang out.

These guys have vast power that is to all intents and purposes limitless. They can cross galaxies in minutes, bath in Super novas and grapple with Black holes.

Above them is the transcendent class, where characters like Thanos, Darkseid or Pre crisis Superman live. This class is categorized by beings that can engage in combat and defeat whole teams of top tiers. Some top tiers such as Superman seem to edging into this class.

Above them is the Skyfather level, Like Odin or Galactus. When they fight seriously nearby Galaxies explode as a side effect. This is where Unicron and Primus are.