The Energon Pub

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:33 pm

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by **Fox Thiagarajan** » Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:39 pm

That's pretty cool. going to pull mine out of storage and check it out.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:54 pm

Common knowledge, it's based on his (2nd?) death in the Marvel comics after the (2nd?) defeat of Unicron.

by **RiddlerJ** » Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:00 pm

Optimus laughing. Once you see it, you cannot unsee it.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:KidsPrime1.jpg

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:11 pm

Drift082111 wrote:That's pretty cool. going to pull mine out of storage and check it out.

Don't do it. It's a scrapped feature and in order to get to it you have to permanently damage the figure. Which is a waste for something that ugly.

by **Fox Thiagarajan** » Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:59 pm

Dead Metal wrote:
Drift082111 wrote:That's pretty cool. going to pull mine out of storage and check it out.

Don't do it. It's a scrapped feature and in order to get to it you have to permanently damage the figure. Which is a waste for something that ugly.

Thanks for the heads up. Fortunately I never got around to pulling him from storage.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:48 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Common knowledge, it's based on his (2nd?) death in the Marvel comics after the (2nd?) defeat of Unicron.

Ditto. Been known for a long time. This goes to show that despite the near perfection of MP10, there are some things that can be implemented on a figure with a much larger scale.

News Credits: 16 · by **It Is Him** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:50 am

Common knowledge? It's news to me! That's friggin' cool.

News Credits: 1 · by **MightyMagnus78** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:56 am

That's horrific, I'll be having nightmares for weeks!

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:34 am

Like JelZe pointed out, it's based on this:

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:56 am

Did not know this. pretty damn ugly though.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:26 am

Sabrblade wrote:Like JelZe pointed out, it's based on this:

I thought it was based on a different shot, from the G2 comics. The figure has actual skeleton teeth, while this pic doesn't, just an audio speaker.

by **thedistinctroom** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:11 pm

How about the MP-04 version? I have that one.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:28 pm

thedistinctroom wrote:How about the MP-04 version? I have that one.

No mouth behind that one.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:11 pm

fenrir72 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Common knowledge, it's based on his (2nd?) death in the Marvel comics after the (2nd?) defeat of Unicron.

Ditto. Been known for a long time. This goes to show that despite the near perfection of MP10, there are some things that can be implemented on a figure with a much larger scale.

It's not really a feature, it's the remnants of a dead feature that was never really implemented. The faceplate was originally going to be removable, but they decided against it. such a feature is possible on a toy the size of MP10, hell, it can work on a figure as small as a scout.

Sabrblade wrote:
thedistinctroom wrote:How about the MP-04 version? I have that one.
No mouth behind that one.

That almost a bit random really.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:02 pm

Dead Metal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
thedistinctroom wrote:How about the MP-04 version? I have that one.
No mouth behind that one.

That almost a bit random really.

D'OH!

I had MP-10 on the brain when typing that. My bad, MP-4 has the mouth too.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:05 pm

Dead Metal wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Common knowledge, it's based on his (2nd?) death in the Marvel comics after the (2nd?) defeat of Unicron.

Ditto. Been known for a long time. This goes to show that despite the near perfection of MP10, there are some things that can be implemented on a figure with a much larger scale.

It's not really a feature, it's the remnants of a dead feature that was never really implemented. The faceplate was originally going to be removable, but they decided against it. such a feature is possible on a toy the size of MP10, hell, it can work on a figure as small as a scout.
Sabrblade wrote:
thedistinctroom wrote:How about the MP-04 version? I have that one.
No mouth behind that one.

That almost a bit random really.

But on MP-10 scale, you'd need to use a loupe to appreciate it. And as you mentioned, it was supposed to be another feature that was supposedly dropped in the final release. MP-01 mold was truly a very ambitious attempt.

News Credits: 119 · by **megatronus** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:01 pm

Finally, a Transformer without lips!

by **thedistinctroom** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:08 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
thedistinctroom wrote:How about the MP-04 version? I have that one.
No mouth behind that one.

That almost a bit random really.
D'OH! I had MP-10 on the brain when typing that. My bad, MP-4 has the mouth too.

Hehe. Well thanks! I assume the mouth is on MP-2 Ultra Magnus also.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:39 pm

fenrir72 wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Common knowledge, it's based on his (2nd?) death in the Marvel comics after the (2nd?) defeat of Unicron.

Ditto. Been known for a long time. This goes to show that despite the near perfection of MP10, there are some things that can be implemented on a figure with a much larger scale.

It's not really a feature, it's the remnants of a dead feature that was never really implemented. The faceplate was originally going to be removable, but they decided against it. such a feature is possible on a toy the size of MP10, hell, it can work on a figure as small as a scout.
Sabrblade wrote:
thedistinctroom wrote:How about the MP-04 version? I have that one.
No mouth behind that one.

That almost a bit random really.

But on MP-10 scale, you'd need to use a loupe to appreciate it. And as you mentioned, it was supposed to be another feature that was supposedly dropped in the final release. MP-01 mold was truly a very ambitious attempt.

No you wouldn't. Do you need a loupe to appreciate Scout class head sculpts?
And what is there to appreciate in the first place? It's an awful looking thing and looks really half assed, which is likely the reason it was scrapped in the first place.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:54 am

Dead Metal wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Common knowledge, it's based on his (2nd?) death in the Marvel comics after the (2nd?) defeat of Unicron.

Ditto. Been known for a long time. This goes to show that despite the near perfection of MP10, there are some things that can be implemented on a figure with a much larger scale.

It's not really a feature, it's the remnants of a dead feature that was never really implemented. The faceplate was originally going to be removable, but they decided against it. such a feature is possible on a toy the size of MP10, hell, it can work on a figure as small as a scout.
Sabrblade wrote:
thedistinctroom wrote:How about the MP-04 version? I have that one.
No mouth behind that one.

That almost a bit random really.

But on MP-10 scale, you'd need to use a loupe to appreciate it. And as you mentioned, it was supposed to be another feature that was supposedly dropped in the final release. MP-01 mold was truly a very ambitious attempt.

No you wouldn't. Do you need a loupe to appreciate Scout class head sculpts?
And what is there to appreciate in the first place? It's an awful looking thing and looks really half assed, which is likely the reason it was scrapped in the first place.

Good for you DM ( you still got 20/20 vision?) but in my case, I really need a loupe. Even in new molds like Breacher, it takes a loupe to appreciate the finer details.

As MP-01 mold has indeed seen better days. For me, every tiny detail or trivial info gets my appreciation. Goes to show how what could have been had it been implemented. I ain't that jaded yet.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:24 pm

fenrir72 wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Common knowledge, it's based on his (2nd?) death in the Marvel comics after the (2nd?) defeat of Unicron.

Ditto. Been known for a long time. This goes to show that despite the near perfection of MP10, there are some things that can be implemented on a figure with a much larger scale.

It's not really a feature, it's the remnants of a dead feature that was never really implemented. The faceplate was originally going to be removable, but they decided against it. such a feature is possible on a toy the size of MP10, hell, it can work on a figure as small as a scout.
Sabrblade wrote:
thedistinctroom wrote:How about the MP-04 version? I have that one.
No mouth behind that one.

That almost a bit random really.

But on MP-10 scale, you'd need to use a loupe to appreciate it. And as you mentioned, it was supposed to be another feature that was supposedly dropped in the final release. MP-01 mold was truly a very ambitious attempt.

No you wouldn't. Do you need a loupe to appreciate Scout class head sculpts?
And what is there to appreciate in the first place? It's an awful looking thing and looks really half assed, which is likely the reason it was scrapped in the first place.

Good for you DM ( you still got 20/20 vision?) but in my case, I really need a loupe. Even in new molds like Breacher, it takes a loupe to appreciate the finer details.

As MP-01 mold has indeed seen better days. For me, every tiny detail or trivial info gets my appreciation. Goes to show how what could have been had it been implemented. I ain't that jaded yet.

I'm sorry that your eyes are bad now, but that still does not validate the claim that this would only be possible on a figure the size of MP01 and not MP10.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:11 pm

I'll slightly deviate DM

I treat all my figures kind off like a dvds. Back then when "Easter Eggs" were like the rage?

Maybe yes, maybe no but you can do more on a particular mold with a bigger size. As in henkei Galvatron, they wanted to implement something along the way until it was dropped. Sure, some weird after effects were still retained.It still retained that useless walking tank feature.

Heck, if not for one of those TF mooks, I wouldn't have learned that MP-05 was supposed to have a "Heart of Cybertron" chest chamber. A little nice to know trivia.

So the mouth being a big deal? Not really but compare the MP-01 to MP-10 head size, that "speaker" grill would probably look less detailed.

Also, if not for this discussion, I wouldn't have learned from you guys that the mouth guard was supposed to be removable? Again, another nice to know Easter egg.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:21 am

fenrir72 wrote:I'll slightly deviate DM

I treat all my figures kind off like a dvds. Back then when "Easter Eggs" were like the rage?

Maybe yes, maybe no but you can do more on a particular mold with a bigger size. As in henkei Galvatron, they wanted to implement something along the way until it was dropped. Sure, some weird after effects were still retained.It still retained that useless walking tank feature.

Heck, if not for one of those TF mooks, I wouldn't have learned that MP-05 was supposed to have a "Heart of Cybertron" chest chamber. A little nice to know trivia.

So the mouth being a big deal? Not really but compare the MP-01 to MP-10 head size, that "speaker" grill would probably look less detailed.

Also, if not for this discussion, I wouldn't have learned from you guys that the mouth guard was supposed to be removable? Again, another nice to know Easter egg.

No it would not look less detailed, if you shrink something down it looks more detailed than it actually is. So that's still no argument for claiming that it wouldn't work on MP10, or not as well as it does on MP01.
It doesn't even work on MP1, because it was started and never finished, if it was they wouldn't have removed the feature.
It is also not a speaker grill, but teeth, actual skull like teeth. It is also not very detailed, your average deluxe has more detail in its face than the teeth have. That is because it was dropped before it was actually finished. It's not really a feature, nor is it an easter egg. This is just like any other dropped feature, like ROTF Sideways's stripped spinning sawblade action, if you look at his arm you can still see the remnants of the mechanism but it'S still removed, that also does not make it an easter egg.
IF you're looking for easter eggs in TFs, try to the stuff like the tats on Generations Warpath or Universe 2008 Powerglide those are actual easter eggs.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 10:12 pm

"tats" on Warpath? What about Powerglide? There were some features dropped? Maybe a new thread so as not to deviate even further?

Btw, what was the source that mentioned about the face plate feature being dropped? One of those Generations mooks? May I know which volume so i can also hunt that down?

"Teeth"? Prime had teeth? In the source pic being referenced afew posts above, from my perspective, if that IS the source material that inspired the feature, those look like speaker grills.