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i was completely not sold on shrapnel. i dont know why, but these pics have completely turned me around. im really into him! id buy him just for the camera even. cant wait!

Personally this Shrapnel is a huge turn off. I am a huge fan of the original and this one utterly rubs me the wrong way. Not sure if it's the small head, the over-sized canary yellow chest panel or the shade of purple on the arms and feet. I'll still get him but articulation aside he feels like a downgrade from the original.

Diem wrote:Personally this Shrapnel is a huge turn off. I am a huge fan of the original and this one utterly rubs me the wrong way. Not sure if it's the small head, the over-sized canary yellow chest panel or the shade of purple on the arms and feet. I'll still get him but articulation aside he feels like a downgrade from the original.

i didnt like him initially either. id say wait for the takara one, but who knows what theyre doing these days...

I really like Skrapnel. The only issue I have with it is the yellow chest. I would've really like to have seen them do the translucent yellow chest that could fit a small energon cube. Something along those lines would've made me really pleased. I also understand why they didn't do that, because of costs, but it would've still been pretty cool. Other than that, I think this is a great update to one of my favorite G1 toys. Here's hoping Bombshell and Kickback get the same treatment.

Seibertron wrote:I really like Skrapnel. The only issue I have with it is the yellow chest. I would've really like to have seen them do the translucent yellow chest that could fit a small energon cube. Something along those lines would've made me really pleased. I also understand why they didn't do that, because of costs, but it would've still been pretty cool. Other than that, I think this is a great update to one of my favorite G1 toys. Here's hoping Bombshell and Kickback get the same treatment.

A transparent chest with a cavity would have been best.
A slightly darker yellow or use of darker yellow paint apps to suggest depth would have been nice too.
A better shape even, rather than it taking up his whole chest would have been a good step.

Yeah, the chest could stand to be broken up a bit more. As it is now, it's just a solid square of yellow. Something like this would've helped a lot:



Have these guys been spotted anywhere yet? I finally found Swerve and Cosmos at my store the other day, so now the other Legends don't feel like a far-off fantasy anymore.
Then again I have no idea how AoE will affect these...

As others have noted, the Reflector-gun is just brilliant...I hadn't realized how it took the shape of the original blaster. Well-played, toy designers, well-played! Now if I can just find one at a reasonable price...

Ryan's at it again! Working long and hard to bring you the best and most in-dept picture reviews out there. This time Seibertron.com is proud to present his latest work with new galleries of Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor. Both are brand new molds on old favorites from Beast wars and Beast Machines.


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Whoa! Didn't know Tankor was that short!

I like how Tankor is smaller than Rattrap. He would have been so much easier to defeat in beast machines at that size.
This must be the legion size Tankor because Rattrap is smaller than Tankor's foot LOLZ:

They put all this love and effort into the Beast Wars gang --getting them in approximate scale, making them look awesome, designing Rattrap in a way that lets him stand up in rat mode-- but when they get to the Beast Machines guy it's like "whatevs, he's not orange-and-black this time, that's good enough."

Siger wrote:I like how Tankor is smaller than Rattrap. He would have been so much easier to defeat in beast machines at that size.
This must be the legion size Tankor because Rattrap is smaller than Tankor's foot LOLZ:

Picture an Autobot or Decepticon standing in that image along with everybody else.

We don't need a bigger Tankor. We need Cyberverse Maximals and Predacons, not giant Deluxes and Voyager (unless they make one for Optimal Optimus).

Noideaforaname wrote:They put all this love and effort into the Beast Wars gang --getting them in approximate scale, making them look awesome, designing Rattrap in a way that lets him stand up in rat mode-- but when they get to the Beast Machines guy it's like "whatevs, he's not orange-and-black this time, that's good enough."

Rattrap? Approximate scale? The toy comes all the way up to Dinobot's chest!



Compare:



This is one of those cases where the original mold wins the scale proportions.
 

"Approximate." Rattrap's still the short one.

Noideaforaname wrote:"Approximate." Rattrap's still the short one.

Barely. He's taller than the Optimus Primal figure seen in the above pics.

Well yeah I already thought Rattrap was way too big and Tankor way too small from the first reveal pics. The rat mode was almost as big as Voyager Rhinox's rhino mode. Man that's a big scary rat! You are right about not needing a voyager size Tankor, or in fact anymore Tankors. It's not an interesting or a good looking TF overall. Why not a better Cheetor or a transmetal one first? Why not a new Dinobot to go along with the new movie Dinowave?

Can it be purchased from a local retail store (such as Wal-Mart) for a reasonable price?

Screaming_star91 wrote:Can it be purchased from a local retail store (such as Wal-Mart) for a reasonable price?

If you think $10-15 (depending on where you live) is reasonable, yes.

Mindmaster wrote:If you think $10-15 (depending on where you live) is reasonable, yes.

Perfect (Dinobot & Rattrap were always my favorite BW's characters), that's just my price range. Thank you!

Screaming_star91 wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:If you think $10-15 (depending on where you live) is reasonable, yes.

Perfect (Dinobot & Rattrap were always my favorite BW's characters), that's just my price range. Thank you!

All you have to do now is FIND them since no store that isn't online seems to be getting these in.

Sabrblade wrote: All you have to do now is FIND them since no store that isn't online seems to be getting these in.

True, I'll just have to wait, It might take a few months but I refuse to pay anymore than $15.00.

Siger wrote:Well yeah I already thought Rattrap was way too big and Tankor way too small from the first reveal pics. The rat mode was almost as big as Voyager Rhinox's rhino mode. Man that's a big scary rat! You are right about not needing a voyager size Tankor, or in fact anymore Tankors. It's not an interesting or a good looking TF overall. Why not a better Cheetor or a transmetal one first? Why not a new Dinobot to go along with the new movie Dinowave?

I feel bad that everyone is hating on Tankor. I really like the toy! I think it's a great update to a character that really hasn't had a cartoon accurate toy before. Sure I'd love a Voyager, Ultra or Leader Class scaled Tankor but that's just not realistic. In the meantime I'll take this fantastic update that is very poseable and lots of fun. Kudos to Hasbro for keeping the fires lit for this character. Any time they'd like to throw Beast Machines Thrust and Jetstorm some Generations love, I'll be right there to support them. Deluxe Class and all!

Seibertron wrote:I feel bad that everyone is hating on Tankor. I really like the toy! I think it's a great update to a character that really hasn't had a cartoon accurate toy before. Sure I'd love a Voyager, Ultra or Leader Class scaled Tankor but that's just not realistic. In the meantime I'll take this fantastic update that is very poseable and lots of fun. Kudos to Hasbro for keeping the fires lit for this character. Any time they'd like to throw Beast Machines Thrust and Jetstorm some Generations love, I'll be right there to support them. Deluxe Class and all!

I genuinely would love a neo-classic Beast Machines Thrust and Jetstorm

Seibertron wrote:I feel bad that everyone is hating on Tankor. I really like the toy! I think it's a great update to a character that really hasn't had a cartoon accurate toy before. Sure I'd love a Voyager, Ultra or Leader Class scaled Tankor but that's just not realistic. In the meantime I'll take this fantastic update that is very poseable and lots of fun. Kudos to Hasbro for keeping the fires lit for this character. Any time they'd like to throw Beast Machines Thrust and Jetstorm some Generations love, I'll be right there to support them. Deluxe Class and all!

I think the robot mode is fantastically show-accurate.

The tank mode, however, is more show-accurate on the original Basic class Tank Drone figure (and moreso on its Beast Wars Returns Vehicon Tankor redeco).

Though, I understand why the tank mode is lacking the show-accuracy department, as it looks like they tried to replicate the cartoon model's transformation to tank mode without any of the cheating the CGI model uses, using only parts that appear in the toy's robot mode as they appear in its robot mode, instead of trying to simulate the slight morphing that his cartoon transformation undergoes when converting robot mode to tank mode. The result is a tank mode that appears to be made from the robot mode's parts arranged in how they ought to be for the tank mode, but since that isn't what the tank mode looked like in the cartoon (again, thanks to the slight morphing of the CGI model), the tank mode isn't as show-accurate as it attempted to be.

I really want to like Tankor, but his short stature really turns me off. Had he been a Voyager, I would've been all for it.

And yes, updates for Thrust and Jetstorm would be much appreciated.